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Sedat Canbaz
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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

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1st of all,
botunnet = bad police
Deeds = good police

In any case,
You have to be as candidate for Hollywood star ))
In case of artist role, the actors would give you:
BAD, NEGATIVE, FOOL character for sure !!

And as I mentioned before:
You are as real LIAR, not Me !!
Who said that you are as best exp expert?
And as we noticed...even you can not see my used
ProteusSF version (in Duel II match)... hehe..lol..
Really sometime I wonder:
With what kind of guy I talk, which he has no clue of nothing...

And now I see that you tried to say again
Nothing true, exception BLA BLA BLA!

Why I say like this,
Depth4=Deeds book's lines is not yours?

Look what I will tell you more, you can believe or not:
Depth4=Deeds bin is NOT my 1st creation, ok ? I work over
Books since many years, what about you ? when you started?
And how many opening books did you create so far?

By the way,
I've created a lot of based books, which are tuned,
Optimized to prefer many other Players openings
And I am not going to give detailed info (how many..)
Because I'm afraid to miss to not mention some of them
But there is one true: hundreds based books for sure!

In other words, in my eyes:
You are simply just as 'bad' apprentice tester!
Because you have troubles to learn..really..
Everything is wrong, terrible in your testings...
Claiming that your EXP is the best/strongest out there but
No any single proof.. come on )) ah sorry,
Exception on your PC lol.. )))

Forget everything..
Are you afraid much: Deept4 EXP's sales will be fall down?
And you claiming for such EXP, 80+ EURO ? is this as joke?
Sometimes I wonder, do you have a single or few customer/s ?)
Maybe that's why price is high ..because not many customers..
Btw, just do not say: botunnet is my customer, because it
Seems that both of you are fake and belonging to same guy..!!
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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

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Meanwhile,
Here are those games, played by Deeds,
Where his EXP managed to win all opponents..LOL

https://pixeldrain.com/u/eq7nExgA

Note also that,
My created Depth4_Deeds book is based on the above games!
In other words, the book is tuned to prefer Depth4 EXP's lines

And to be more clear,
Before starting 'Depth4_Deeds bin'' creation...
All doubles are removed.. there were plenty of same copy games!

By the way, via using SCID program,
Everyone can check is true or not and for anyone missed e.g
Depth4_Deeds bin book is still available (directly at this link):
https://mega.nz/file/voYhnaZB#dDpkHPgP3 ... a3Kz0PWrQs

And one thing more, after the end of tour,
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-bn-cs-14
All the played tour games will be shared...I mean anyone who interested
Can compare...these lines are played by Depth4_ Deeds book or not...

And later we can talk about who is LIAR...

Shame on both fake members (Deeds=botunnet)
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Re: when a daily tester should review his tests

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Well, here are two games, which may help...and
It's not required much time to wait who is LIAR

In other words,
Deeds is the biggest LIAR in our hobby!
And not only via comments... plus as we see
With real facts' as well!

In short, due to no free time for all...
I realized to check just two games e.g
One game played during SCCT B/N CS XIV
And one game during Deeds's EXP VS BOOK

By the way,
A screenshot, where c5 is playing as GOLDEN KEY,
Regarding that the last C5 move belongs to Deeds book!
And later is out of book..I mean in both games c5 is played:
Image

And here the both games, where everything is clear:

E.g here is the recent game, which is
Played by Depth4_Deeds in SCCT B/N XIV:

[Event "SCCT- Book/NNUE CS XIV "]
[Site "Antalya"]
[Date "2023.07.05"]
[Round "19"]
[White "CachoUPD2"]
[Black "Depth4_Deeds"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "E94"]
[PlyCount "108"]
[EventDate "2023.??.??"]
[TimeControl "120+1"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. Nf3 O-O 6. Be2 e5 7. O-O Nbd7 8. Be3
c6 9. d5 c5 10. Kh1 Kh8 {-1.01/23 1.8s} 11. Bg5 a6 {-1.00/27 5.6s} 12. a4 Rb8 {
-0.93/26 7.1s} 13. g3 Qe8 {-0.87/24 1.4s} 14. Bd2 Qe7 {-0.93/25 2.4s} 15. Ng5
b6 {-1.09/27 6.0s} 16. Qc2 Re8 {-1.21/26 4.1s} 17. Kg2 Nf8 {-1.04/22 2.1s} 18.
h4 {+1.50/24 7.0s} Ng8 {-1.22/26 8.7s} 19. Rh1 {+1.66/25 3.1s} h5 {
-1.22/24 1.6s} 20. Raf1 {+1.70/28 11s} Nh7 {-1.25/26 5.5s} 21. Qc1 {
+1.75/27 6.2s} Rf8 {-1.37/25 1.9s} 22. f3 {+1.91/27 2.2s} Rb7 {-1.25/27 2.8s}
23. Nh3 {+1.91/27 7.9s} Qe8 {-0.95/25 3.0s} 24. Nf2 {+1.57/28 9.9s} f5 {
-0.92/26 2.7s} 25. Rh2 {+1.50/26 1.9s} Rbf7 {-0.95/25 4.4s} 26. Kh1 {
+1.44/26 6.8s} Ngf6 {-0.94/30 15s} 27. Rg1 {+1.61/23 3.7s} Bd7 {-1.07/25 2.0s}
28. Qc2 {+1.43/28 5.3s} Qe7 {-0.86/25 6.7s} 29. Qb3 {+1.42/26 6.1s} Qd8 {
-0.96/28 1.4s} 30. Qd1 {+1.43/25 3.7s} Qe7 {-0.98/27 10s} 31. exf5 {
+1.44/25 6.1s} gxf5 {-0.71/25 1.2s} 32. Nh3 {+1.59/21 1.5s} Qe8 {-0.77/26 2.4s}
33. Qb1 {+1.76/26 2.8s} Kg8 {-0.99/30 6.9s} 34. b4 {+1.61/27 4.7s} e4 {
-1.05/27 2.8s} 35. Nf4 {+1.64/28 6.1s} Qc8 {-0.95/27 2.7s} 36. Rhg2 {
+1.47/27 3.9s} exf3 {-1.17/26 4.7s} 37. Bxf3 {+1.48/27 2.7s} cxb4 {
-1.33/29 4.4s} 38. Qxb4 {+1.91/27 2.1s} Ng4 {-1.28/26 2.0s} 39. Ne6 {
+2.23/26 2.0s} Re8 {-1.67/31 8.2s} 40. Nxg7 {+2.40/25 2.5s} Kxg7 {-1.67/24 1.3s
} 41. Be2 {+2.32/25 3.4s} Nhf6 {-1.62/23 1.4s} 42. Qxb6 {+2.55/29 6.7s} Rxe2 {
-1.78/29 6.5s} 43. Nxe2 {+2.37/26 1.9s} Qxc4 {-1.70/27 1.4s} 44. Bc3 {
+2.50/26 3.4s} Qxd5 {-1.55/25 1.6s} 45. Rc1 {+2.35/25 2.2s} Kh7 {-1.83/26 4.6s}
46. Bxf6 {+2.75/27 1.8s} Rxf6 {-1.98/24 1.3s} 47. Nf4 {+2.74/24 2.2s} Qe4 {
-2.37/29 7.3s} 48. a5 {+3.23/22 2.0s} Bb5 {-2.33/22 1.8s} 49. Qc7+ {
+3.54/22 1.8s} Kg8 {-3.03/25 2.9s} 50. Qc8+ {+3.69/25 1.9s} Be8 {-2.87/23 0.94s
} 51. Qxa6 {+4.10/25 2.6s} d5 {-3.00/22 2.5s} 52. Qb7 {+4.37/22 1.8s} Rc6 {
-2.63/22 0.80s} 53. Ra1 {+5.23/20 2.0s} Qe3 {-5.14/21 5.3s} 54. Qb2 {
+5.92/22 2.6s} Rc8 {-5.71/21 1.9s, White wins by adjudication} 1-0

------------------------------------------------------------------------

And the other game.. played in Deeds's EXP VS BOOK:

[Event "EXP VS BOOK"]
[Site "dual xeon e5-2660v3"]
[Date "2022.07.13"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Solista-010722 (Eman 8.10)"]
[Black "Depth4_050522 (Eman 8.10)"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "E94"]
[PlyCount "116"]
[EventDate "2022.??.??"]
[Source "SC"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]

1. d4 {book} Nf6 {book} 2. c4 {book} g6 {book} 3. Nc3 {book} Bg7 {book} 4. e4 {
book} d6 {book} 5. Nf3 {book} O-O {book} 6. Be2 {book} e5 {book} 7. O-O {book}
Nbd7 {book} 8. Be3 {book} c6 {book} 9. d5 {+1.67/22 1.8s} c5 {+1.35/28 6.2s}
10. a4 Qe7 {+1.31/24 0.69s} 11. a5 {+1.72/31 8.1s} Ne8 {+1.39/22 1.3s} 12. Qb1
{+1.57/29 4.9s} Kh8 {+1.30/23 1.4s} 13. Bd3 {+1.55/28 4.3s} Nc7 {+1.35/29 3.7s}
14. Bg5 {+1.44/25 1.8s} Bf6 {+1.36/24 1.4s} 15. Bd2 {+1.60/25 1.4s} Na6 {
+1.25/27 4.3s} 16. Qe1 {+1.61/26 1.9s} Nb4 {+1.18/27 2.3s} 17. Bb1 {
+1.55/25 1.5s} b6 {+1.22/25 1.7s} 18. Nd1 {+1.74/24 1.9s} a6 {+1.56/27 8.0s}
19. Ra3 {+1.74/25 3.3s} bxa5 {+1.51/24 2.0s} 20. Rxa5 {+1.63/29 10s} Bg7 {
+1.28/27 0.93s} 21. Bxb4 {+1.52/23 2.3s} cxb4 {+1.29/29 1.0s} 22. Qxb4 {
+1.37/28 1.3s} Nc5 {+1.45/25 1.2s} 23. Qa3 {+1.52/24 1.1s} Qa7 {+1.31/29 1.1s}
24. Qc3 {+1.45/29 2.3s} Nb7 {+1.28/26 1.9s} 25. Ra2 {+1.38/27 1.5s} a5 {
+1.39/26 1.8s} 26. Bc2 {+1.44/29 9.7s} Qb6 {+1.12/27 1.9s} 27. b3 {
+1.49/24 0.71s} Bd7 {+1.09/30 7.7s} 28. Nb2 {+1.25/25 2.4s} f5 {+1.23/24 1.2s}
29. Na4 {+1.14/24 1.5s} Qd8 {+1.16/26 1.9s} 30. Rfa1 {+1.12/25 4.1s} Rb8 {
+0.97/25 4.4s} 31. Rb1 {+1.31/23 2.0s} Bf6 {+1.05/23 1.1s} 32. h3 {
+1.23/22 2.9s} Qc7 {+0.84/22 1.8s} 33. Rab2 {+1.12/24 0.64s} Rg8 {+0.75/23 1.6s
} 34. Ra2 {+1.00/27 7.5s} Rgf8 {+0.83/24 2.5s} 35. Rab2 {+1.01/24 1.4s} Rg8 {
+0.81/25 4.5s} 36. Ra1 {+1.12/24 2.6s} Bd8 {+0.73/27 8.6s} 37. Rd1 {
+0.75/21 2.8s} Rc8 {+0.62/25 2.5s} 38. Rdb1 {+0.84/21 1.1s} Rg7 {+0.46/21 0.71s
} 39. Nd2 {+0.55/21 1.3s} f4 {+0.60/22 1.4s} 40. Kf1 {+0.61/21 0.69s} Bxa4 {
+0.38/22 1.3s} 41. bxa4 {+0.59/17 0.14s} Nc5 {+0.17/22 0.70s} 42. h4 {
+0.56/23 1.4s} Qd7 {+0.15/24 2.0s} 43. Nf3 {+0.21/22 1.3s} h6 {+0.10/21 0.48s}
44. Rb5 {+0.49/20 0.50s} Qe7 {+0.17/21 0.84s} 45. Kg1 {+0.41/19 0.57s} Kh7 {
+0.21/22 0.91s} 46. Qa3 {+0.42/23 0.68s} Qa7 {+0.14/25 2.4s} 47. Qc3 {
+0.31/24 1.2s} Qe7 {+0.24/23 1.3s} 48. Qa3 {+0.21/23 0.79s} Qa7 {+0.15/25 1.6s}
49. Qb2 {+0.25/23 1.1s} Qe7 {+0.20/23 0.64s} 50. Qc3 {+0.27/21 0.27s} Qd7 {
+0.23/25 1.8s} 51. Qb2 {+0.24/24 2.3s} Na6 {+0.07/24 0.95s} 52. Rb7 {
+0.30/29 0.57s} Qxb7 {+0.06/28 0.36s} 53. Qxb7 {+0.12/23 0.33s} Rxb7 {
0.00/34 0.64s} 54. Rxb7+ {0.00/29 0.31s} Kg8 {0.00/41 0.66s} 55. Kf1 {
0.00/35 0.81s} Nc5 {0.00/42 0.71s} 56. Rb5 {0.00/33 0.61s} Kg7 {0.00/42 0.66s}
57. Ke2 {0.00/40 2.5s} Kf7 {0.00/33 0.77s} 58. Nd2 {0.00/33 0.23s} Kg7 {
0.00/42 0.76s, Draw by adjudication} 1/2-1/2
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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

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And that's all... I do not want talk more over this thread

Actually, I am perfectly aware of Mark Twain's great saying:

Never argue with stupid people,
They will drag you down to their level
And then beat you with experience


But when someone is starting to call me as LIAR
Sorry...sometimes not all in my hands...

On other hand,
Very likely I will be stay far away from here...
I think that this is the best way (for solution...)
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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

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Thank you to have confirmed my words and your lies ! loool

liar's book :
Image

exp file :
Image

Oops...
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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

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Well,
I created a book based on your published games,
Which is highly tuned to prefer your EXP ([Depth4)
This is already a fact...open your eyes..if you can not see...

And in same time, with your GUI moves
You managed to win all opponents..hehe.. )))
No words to say..exception, BLA BLA BLA...

Btw, what about here ?
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-bn-cs-14
Gui moves did not worked well... LOL...

And you say again that
I am confirming that I am as a LIAR, right ? LOL

Actually it is already 100% clear that
You are as real LIAR !! I proved many times !!

And what a funny that now I see
You changed the direction.. LOL

To be more clear,
If you was as real HONEST tester..
Then simply you had to name your exp such as
GUI's moves (as player),
I mean not as Depth4 exp player

But money money....advertising and advertising ...for what ?
You are trying to FOOL the people..to gain so much Euro!!
Sad to read all these cheap and fake actions by you!
Shame on you again...
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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

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deeds wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:57 am In the liar's book, Sedat want to tell us that Depth4_xxxxxx has already played the "1.f4" move.
In the 1500 games, the "1.f4 {book}" was played 20 times by the GUI (cutechess)

Image

So Depth4_xxxxxx has never played "1 .f4"

Oops
What are you talking about? it's not clear in your all screenshots!
Btw, why are you afraid so much to share your current position in PGN ?

Please follow my work.. it is much more clear,...

Anyhow,
You can talk as you wish..it is your Business...money...
You have a shop and your target is selling EXP files

Frankly since a few days ago,
I was not aware of that... but now I understand all about
What is going on....at least now is perfectly clear that
You are afraid that your EXP sales will be affected by SCCT

And as final words,
I wish you good luck in your EXP sales!
But stay far away from Me! and in that case...
I promise to stay far away from you as well

Thank you in advance
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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

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deeds wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:12 am Thank you (Sedat) to have confirmed my words and your lies ! loool
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

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Sedat wrote: I created a book based on your published games,
Which is highly tuned to prefer your EXP ([Depth4)
But as the published games also contains opening's moves played by the Cutechess GUI, we can't create a book with only the engine's evaluated moves :!:

Plus, DeeDs used default settings :arrow: Depth4 played in training mode :arrow: engine not always followed the most efficient moves.

:o Ok this book was a joke :o
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deeds wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:57 am So Depth4_xxxxxx has never played "1 .f4"
True, "1.f4 {book}" is part of the 20.pgn file (20 first moves). Any chance an experience file plays this move from the startposition. :shock: Sedat really lied :shock:
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