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SedatChess

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:08 am
by Sedat Canbaz
Hello Chess Friends,

1st of all,
This time, I've realized to test the Top engines, which are publicly available...
And only those ones which are capable to learn (sure during game-play...)
Otherwise, the test conditions will be not so fair..if we will allow all engines..

As current players,
I picked the engines which performed not so bad in my recent competitions!
Btw, instead of Brainlearn 25, I picked older vers, the reason: Brainlearn 25
Generated no any exp file, I mean via Seld-Q-Learning enabled, where with
Same settings, Brainlearn 24 is worked flawlessly (experience is created...)
Plus as older version, I used LittleBeast 2, due to it seems slightly stronger...

On other hand,
Eman is managed to be Number One under Blitz conditions..actually no BIG
Surprise... e.g Mr. Khalid is one of the best programmers in engine learning!

What I can say more (for anyone missed),
Unfortunately RaptoRa 2.2 is a private chess engine... so it is not allowed...
But the good news is that, Eman, LittleBeast, BrainLearn etc.are available!
Note also that current Sugar ver is available too, but after purchasing in Outskirts..

For More Details, Games, Ranking:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-34

Meanwhile (a message to OpenChess's Admins, Moderators and Members):
This is my 1st post on OpenChess and I hope you'll enjoy my chess activities!
And sorry that my posting is coming too late.. but better late than never !)
Frankly I have no much free time to be active on forums...but depending on my
Free time... I will try to post on this great chess site too...and as far as I noticed,
There are a lot of useful material here...plus I see many valuable members, nice!
As final words, thank you very much for your great job and keep up the good work!


Best,
Sedat

Re: SedatChess

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:36 am
by Sedat Canbaz
deeds wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:00 am Another Outskirts member who prepares for exile...
What is your problem with Me ?

On other hand,
It is true that I'm still member of Outskirts forum...
Plus I am member of many other chess forums too!

In other words,
If I make postings here..it does not mean I am on exile!
Maybe you are talking about yourself ?

Re: SedatChess

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:24 am
by Sedat Canbaz
deeds wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:05 am From Outskirts to OpenChess, no improvement ! lol

It's always so absurd to see all these tournaments with engines configured for training loool

foe list updated :
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Regarding absurd to see all these tournaments for training etc....
Probably again you mean about your own beta testings...hehe ))

Btw, a good decision that
You put Me in your Foe list.. thank you )
And good luck...

Re: SedatChess

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:28 am
by Sedat Canbaz
Dear Chess Friends,

As usually, I'm pleased to announce that,
I've managed to organize a new Duel match!

Well, this time as current players,
I've picked the Winners of my recent tourneys: XXXIV / XXXIII / XXXII
And I think that both Top engines fully deserve to be in fight each other!

To be honest
In my eyes, there is no any Winner between Eman and RaptoRa, because
As we see, theirs performance is almost identical... just 1 point difference...

Meanwhile, what is new (than my previous organized recent Blitz tourney)
The current Duel played as Pondering enabled (thinking on opponents turn)
Plus in this Duel, both Top engines are used to play much more openings...

The Duel's Winner: EMAN - My Congratulations to Khalid Omar, SF team!

Code: Select all

1   Eman 8.91    +25/-24/=551 50.08%  300.5/600
2   RapTora 2.2  +24/-25/=551 49.92%  299.5/600
For More Details, Games etc.:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... vs-raprora

Greetings

Re: SedatChess

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:14 am
by Homayoun
Thanks for your great work.

Re: SedatChess

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:22 am
by Sedat Canbaz
Homayoun wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:14 am Thanks for your great work.
Dear Homayoun,

Not at all.. and many thanks for your interest..

Greetings

Re: SedatChess

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:40 am
by Sedat Canbaz
By the way (for anyone missed),
A few more words about Deeds, who is so negative over my work,
Unfortunately all this story is started after Duel- Experience vs Books:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... ook-vs-exp

To be more clear,
Not sure 100% exactly, but rather it seems that
The Experience file, which lost Vs Opening Books
Belongs or shared by Deeds (Unofficial)

In other words,
I know these kind of brains..e.g if Deeds's exp file was a Winner,
Then with a BIG possibility I'd be praised by him...cheap actions...
Sad but true...

Greetings

Re: SedatChess

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:59 pm
by deeds
Here, Sedat said : "As experience file will be used StockfishMZ.exp, Which is based on Eman's learned data, released on 22.05.2022, close to 325 MB in size (uncompressed)"

But even on 13.07.2022 (so 2 months later), my Depth4_130722.exp only weighed 317 MB. Furthermore, Sedat intentionally misled the StockfishMZ engine with data from other engine and renamed exp files like did poor saboters.

That's who Sedat is, that's his behavior, that's his incompetence in the experience files, that's his ignorance in the learning engines.

Re: SedatChess

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:20 pm
by Sedat Canbaz
deeds wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:59 pm Here, Sedat said : "As experience file will be used StockfishMZ.exp, Which is based on Eman's learned data, released on 22.05.2022, close to 325 MB in size (uncompressed)"

But even on 13.07.2022 (so 2 months later), my Depth4_130722.exp only weighed 317 MB. Furthermore, Sedat intentionally misled the StockfishMZ engine with data from other engine and renamed exp files like did poor saboters.

That's who Sedat is, that's his behavior, that's his incompetence in the experience files, that's his ignorance in the learning engines.
Hey man,
This is not a world championship..take it easy please...

Anyhow, once more I will try to explain,
In those days, even nowadays... as far as I know, there is no
Available Huge Experience file to be based especially on StockfishMZ, right ?
So.. I picked simply for the Duel Exp vs Book match:
Eman's exp but I realized that just to be played by Stockfish MZ engine!
And as reason why not Eman engine is used for the Duel is that,
Eman engine was crashing on my previous hardware system (2x E5-2686)

And I wonder,
Where is my ignorance or saboteur here ?

Btw, via concurrent option: 64:
Even the current Eman 8.91 crashed on my newest system (2x 7B12)
So.. Eman is use to play wa concurrent: 32
That means...Eman is not so stable with so many parallel matches...

Do you know what kind of problem you have? a little hint:
If you are a looser...try to learn from your mistakes..!
But next time...just do not blame...because,
You are becoming too much ridiculous ))

And one thing more,
Sure...if you have any newer exp file..just let me know
I may organize another new Duel...if not please...

Hope helps...

Re: SedatChess

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:04 pm
by deeds
If I had to bet on the true origin of the Eman.exp file renamed by Sedat to StockfishMZ.exp, I would choose the old experience file shared by Khalid at InfinityChess who had kindly accepted an user's request.

Khalid's Eman.exp @ 316 MB on 21.01.22 :
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From 316 MB on 21.01.22 to 325 MB on 22.05.2022, there is a logic.
But it's still very serious how Sedat wanted to alter the performance of MZ's engine and wanted to anonymize Khalid's work by renaming his file.

As all my friends/customers already know, my first Eman.exp file available for sale is on 18.04.23 (Depth4_180423.exp, 468 MB).
As Sarona confirmed, I never sent him a copy of any of my experience files.
As I have already announced several times, I only sent a copy of my HypnoS.Exp file to MZ in December 2022.

Sedat never had my Eman.exp files nor any of my other experience files.

Bad pick !