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UPDATE

Some notes more...

More Details (for anyone missed, interested):
I managed to create derivative BIN books (based on Grendel's games):
Grendel All = Optimized to prefer latest both Grendel books versions
Grendel W = Optimized to prefer Grendel's wins (especially as White)
Sure as Blacks, all games are included, I mean the wins plus the draws
Grendel CTG = The official Grendel 081023.ctg (original, untouched)

Interesting to note that,
My created Grendel derivatives are performed better than original!

Note also that
As same words are going for Solista W book.. mainly on wins etc.
Btw, Solista CTG is not planning to be tested, as main reason:
According to my latest tests, some CTG opening books suffer...
They are safe up to 10 moves, but in deeper pos. no guarantee..


Best,
Sedat

Hello there )

Well, here are one of latest new Strength results:

1st of all,
Raubfish SC is used to play Blitz Time control (2m+1s),
Where his opponents are played via Bullet TC (1m+0.5)
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ShachChess 1m+05s vs Raubfish 2m+1s: 2 Elo difference
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Zeus 1m+05s vs Raubfish 2m+1s: 3 Elo difference
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The Overall performance (all 3 players merged in one),
Triple Brain 1m+05s vs Raubfish 2m+1s: 3 Elo difference
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/TsY2kJ7Z#trS_kLXJU ... K07GMGiRd4


More Details:
Now is already 100% clear that Raubfish SC vs Kayra 1.5 have
Really very Aggressive, more Dynamic of playing styles!
To be sure, see 1st test, where the draw ratio is lowest: 90%
Btw, actually lowest draw record of 3700+ engines belongs to
Raubfish SC vs Raubfish SC e.g usually, when matches each other:
Raubfish X48c3 SC's overall draw stats are minus plus: 80%-88%
E.g no any other engine, to be so strong as Raubfish SC and
To produce so low draw values...proved already many times!

But this is also true that,
No any other engine to be so strong as Kayra, ShachChess, Zeus
And in same time, to produce these lower draw perc. values!!

On other hand,
Here (in all recent 3 tests): all players used the same Balsa suite
Btw, for Raubfish SC: 128 MB / TripleBrain ones: 64 MB Hash used

And be aware, I realized to run all these new strength testings
To see in reality.. e.g current tests can be used as useful data
About B/N XXV Bullet games can be counted Blitz via Raubfish SC!

As final words,
'Papers' and 'Reality' are 2 (two) different things!
If still not so clear, we should not be too naive and
We should not mix Apples with Oranges, to be more clear:
The Evalfiles and Engines are two different things!

Or as other example:
Books and Engines are two different things as well!
E.g if X Evalfile is stronger...it does not mean that
Raubfish is bad, poor, crab.. etc and etc..

Or other example:
If X Book is weaker, it does not mean also that
Raubfish is bad etc and etc.

Have a nice day and hope helps...

Best,
Sedat

Breaking News - 09.01.2024:
Well, the championship is already over.. congrats and many thanks to all!
As usual, all of the played tournament games are available (in PGN): XXV
Via this update, 5 entries...after checking..their points seems to be not bad..
Haze TR by Tanick Ramz, Rodent Z by Garry Law, Notyet Dual+Taram by
Cevdet Sarı and MobY by Ian Hurnavich, sorry that I can't count all rest...
Due to many participants...no free time far all...thanks for understanding..
As I promised, all other new SCCT testings are shared: Goi + OpenChess

Private Champion: DON Hercules - Congratulations to Vasid Chouhan!
Public Champion: OPTIMUS - Congratulations to Roger Constantinesco!

For Final Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-bn-cs-25

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/G0RCXaIS#i2iXhrpRk ... VSJj_JSe0Y

Have fun,
Sedat

Thank you

OrgZ wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:15 pm Thank you

+1

Dear friends,

Not at all..it is my great pleasure )

Greetings

OrgZ wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:15 pm Thank you

Dear Tanick,

Meanwhile, well-done !! after checking:
Haze TR's draw ratio is very low, just 90%
It seems an aggressive and strong book, you created
This time....because as far I know, some time ago...
You created a book much Passive, Drawish in lines...

Keep up the good work,
Sedat

Hello Chess Friends,

Just I'd like to inform you that,
I've started a new interesting Eng Tour, but this time as NON-NNUE
And with the smallest Top engines out there (up to 555 KB in size )

By the way, as you may know,
Via NNUE assistance (gaining from previous played/trained data),
Any chess engine (including humans) can/should play stronger, right ?

And as I stated before,
NNUE brought better quality of chess for sure, but in same time
Killed the 'originality'...and 'fun' of course...
At least I can say for matches with 3700+ (e.g in case of each other)
Only via fast TC, if vs much weaker engines or critical opening etc..
Only then we may some more wins...in other words, I wish to say over:
NNUE = STRONG, but BORING ! where as
NON-NNUE = WEAKER, but EXCITING !

Ok.. let's back to the current actıall new tour, I wonder really
What will be influences (without NN assistance) over standing..
Sure as participants, which are very small / micro engines...

What I can say more over,
Current planning tour is more close to / like HUMAN Game - Play !!
Because, no any human can check, gain from previous data, right ?
Sure I mean in official competitions...

But anyhow, there is one true,
It will be a very hard competition for sure...!!

And please stay tuned... new updates soon...

Btw, Engine registrations are acceptable...
But up to 555 KB (uncompressed size)

Greetings )

Breaking News (12.01.2024):
1st of all, I wish to introduce engines which are incredible small in size,
But in same time, theirs playing strength is unbelievable super strong!
Plus as other very important point is that,
A 'real' chess is not a game to be gained from previous played data!
Forget everything, is there anyone here, who plays in active game/s,
And in same time to gain from previous data? frankly I've never seen..
Just imagine, We (Humans) are playing/gaining from previous games..
What will be the situation ? many of us (including myself) we'll say that
Such as this is not as serious game at all! but this is also true that,
We test Engines, (not Humans) but anyhow (before NNUE appeared),
The situation was like the current competition, our tests were close/like
To Humans game-play...in other words, I think that it's not so bad idea
Time to time to check also latest engines strength under Classic chess
Conditions, besides, testing only engines via gaining from previous data,
Would not be too boring?) as taking much vitamins, it's dangerous too!
And as I stated before on Goi + Openchess, registrations are acceptable,
But I hardly doubt that we'll see new entries, which will manage to perform
Better than Cfish 030820, because almost all of the Top programmers are
Switched to NNUE..and I wonder too, who cares much about 'real' chess?
Btw, why I've preferred very small sizes (up to 555 KB)? simply because
There are such engines, which come with huge sizes, e.g one of them is
Fire 4 (released in 2014) close to 25 MB, I have no idea what is inside..
But up to 555 KB..it's all right, if Cfish (with 207 KB) is Number One...
Why not any other engine to be not better?) yes..that's why I say again:
This is a very hard contest..not so easy as it looks...anyhow, just enjoy )
Btw, the tour is still active..as one of next entries will be nanoSzachy 4
Which is just 37 KB, ok...that's all for now.. good luck to all participants!

The Champion: Cfish 030820 - My Congratulations to Cfish, SF Team!
Note: Exactly same Cfish vers via this tittle is already 8-times Champ!

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... on-nn-cs-7

Greetings )