Many thanks for interesting tests and great works.Sedat Canbaz wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:49 pm Update 2 (LIVE Ranking)
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Rank Name Elo +/- Games Score Draw 1 CEDR 25 19 241 53.5% 80.5% 2 Perfect BIN 22 15 241 53.1% 88.0% 3 Balsa 2022 22 16 242 53.1% 86.4% 4 SCCT 16 16 241 52.3% 86.3% 5 CCRL 16 16 241 52.3% 87.1% 6 Balsa 2023 15 18 238 52.1% 84.0% 7 Perfect CTG 14 12 242 52.1% 91.7% 8 Unique 7 19 240 51.0% 81.3% 9 TWIC 3 18 239 50.4% 82.4% 10 SSDF 3 16 241 50.4% 86.7% 11 CCC -1 18 241 49.8% 83.0% 12 Balsa 2021 -7 17 240 49.0% 85.4% 13 Oliprog E -9 16 239 48.7% 86.6% 14 FCP -15 19 239 47.9% 81.6% 15 CEGT -22 18 241 46.9% 82.2% 16 FGRL -22 19 238 46.8% 81.9% 17 TCEC -23 19 240 46.7% 80.8% 18 SPCC -44 24 238 43.7% 70.6% 2161 of 7650 games finished.
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Not at all...it is my pleasure Mr. Homayoun )Homayoun wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:05 pmMany thanks for interesting tests and great works.Sedat Canbaz wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:49 pm Update 2 (LIVE Ranking)
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Rank Name Elo +/- Games Score Draw 1 CEDR 25 19 241 53.5% 80.5% 2 Perfect BIN 22 15 241 53.1% 88.0% 3 Balsa 2022 22 16 242 53.1% 86.4% 4 SCCT 16 16 241 52.3% 86.3% 5 CCRL 16 16 241 52.3% 87.1% 6 Balsa 2023 15 18 238 52.1% 84.0% 7 Perfect CTG 14 12 242 52.1% 91.7% 8 Unique 7 19 240 51.0% 81.3% 9 TWIC 3 18 239 50.4% 82.4% 10 SSDF 3 16 241 50.4% 86.7% 11 CCC -1 18 241 49.8% 83.0% 12 Balsa 2021 -7 17 240 49.0% 85.4% 13 Oliprog E -9 16 239 48.7% 86.6% 14 FCP -15 19 239 47.9% 81.6% 15 CEGT -22 18 241 46.9% 82.2% 16 FGRL -22 19 238 46.8% 81.9% 17 TCEC -23 19 240 46.7% 80.8% 18 SPCC -44 24 238 43.7% 70.6% 2161 of 7650 games finished.
Yes.. sometimes we have run something different, right ?)
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Update 3 (LIVE Ranking):
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Rank Name Elo +/- Games Score Draw
1 Perfect BIN 24 10 586 53.4% 87.4%
2 CEDR 18 11 587 52.6% 84.8%
3 Balsa 2022 17 10 587 52.5% 86.5%
4 Perfect CTG 17 8 588 52.4% 91.2%
5 SCCT 14 10 589 52.0% 87.3%
6 Balsa 2023 10 11 587 51.4% 85.9%
7 Unique 9 12 588 51.3% 82.5%
8 CCC 7 11 588 50.9% 84.2%
9 CCRL 3 10 587 50.4% 86.5%
10 Balsa 2021 1 11 588 50.1% 85.5%
11 SSDF -3 11 588 49.6% 84.5%
12 Oliprog E -4 10 589 49.5% 86.4%
13 TWIC -4 10 586 49.5% 86.7%
14 TCEC -12 12 588 48.3% 83.0%
15 CEGT -15 12 588 47.8% 83.0%
16 FGRL -19 11 587 47.3% 84.3%
17 FCP -21 12 587 46.9% 80.9%
18 SPCC -41 14 588 44.1% 73.6%
5288 of 7650 games finished.
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Thanks and as Mr. H has already pointed out that "its an interesting test" lets see what transpiresSedat Canbaz wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:35 pm Breaking News - 16.12.2023:
Another new tour, but this time all participants are playing up to 10 moves!
What's new: for 1st time CTG book format is playing under CutechessGUI
To be more clear, I am referring about Perfect CTG book, which is playing
By new SF-SCCT NN engine, which is compatible to use CTG book formats
What I can say more, all of current books are created by Me...but they are
Based on high-rated engine games a few examples: Oliprog E is tuned to
Prefer openings played by Oliprog, but on Eng testings, not on Book test...
As other example, CEDR is tuned to prefer the openings in CEDR tours...
Balsa, Perfect, SCCT, Unique are my work, belongs to my Eng testings...
Btw, both Perfect books (CTG+BIN) are based on almost same openings..
Or CCRL, CEGT, SPCC, SSDF etc. are based on theirs recent games...
In other words, via this tour...we will have again a possibility to see which
Ratings, testings etc. are producing better, stronger opening lines, right ?!
In same time, we'll have chance to check which are strongest trend books
Sure under these cond..if nothing else, let's see what will be the influence...
For anyone missed, previous tour (up to 8 moves) can be viewed: Results
And please stay tuned... very soon more updates and details are coming!
The Current Book Leader CEDR - My Congratulations to CEDR team!
Current LIVE Standings of BN XXIII CS:
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Rank Name Elo +/- Games Score Draw 1 CEDR 38 25 111 55.4% 83.8% 2 Balsa 2022 31 24 112 54.5% 85.7% 3 Balsa 2023 25 24 110 53.6% 85.5% 4 SCCT 25 21 111 53.6% 89.2% 5 Unique 19 30 111 52.7% 78.4% 6 CCRL 19 24 112 52.7% 85.7% 7 Perfect CTG 12 17 114 51.8% 93.0% 8 Perfect BIN 12 24 114 51.8% 86.0% 9 TWIC -3 28 112 49.6% 81.3% 10 CCC -3 28 111 49.5% 81.1% 11 Balsa 2021 -6 22 114 49.1% 87.7% 12 SSDF -9 25 112 48.7% 84.8% 13 Oliprog E -13 23 111 48.2% 87.4% 14 TCEC -18 28 113 47.3% 80.5% 15 CEGT -22 30 110 46.8% 79.1% 16 FCP -28 28 110 45.9% 80.9% 17 FGRL -32 30 110 45.5% 78.2% 18 SPCC -47 36 112 43.3% 68.8% 1005 of 7650 games finished.
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-23
Best,
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Not at all Mr. Tanick )OrgZ wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:01 amThanks and as Mr. H has already pointed out that "its an interesting test" lets see what transpiresSedat Canbaz wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:35 pm Breaking News - 16.12.2023:
Another new tour, but this time all participants are playing up to 10 moves!
What's new: for 1st time CTG book format is playing under CutechessGUI
To be more clear, I am referring about Perfect CTG book, which is playing
By new SF-SCCT NN engine, which is compatible to use CTG book formats
What I can say more, all of current books are created by Me...but they are
Based on high-rated engine games a few examples: Oliprog E is tuned to
Prefer openings played by Oliprog, but on Eng testings, not on Book test...
As other example, CEDR is tuned to prefer the openings in CEDR tours...
Balsa, Perfect, SCCT, Unique are my work, belongs to my Eng testings...
Btw, both Perfect books (CTG+BIN) are based on almost same openings..
Or CCRL, CEGT, SPCC, SSDF etc. are based on theirs recent games...
In other words, via this tour...we will have again a possibility to see which
Ratings, testings etc. are producing better, stronger opening lines, right ?!
In same time, we'll have chance to check which are strongest trend books
Sure under these cond..if nothing else, let's see what will be the influence...
For anyone missed, previous tour (up to 8 moves) can be viewed: Results
And please stay tuned... very soon more updates and details are coming!
The Current Book Leader CEDR - My Congratulations to CEDR team!
Current LIVE Standings of BN XXIII CS:
For More Info:Code: Select all
Rank Name Elo +/- Games Score Draw 1 CEDR 38 25 111 55.4% 83.8% 2 Balsa 2022 31 24 112 54.5% 85.7% 3 Balsa 2023 25 24 110 53.6% 85.5% 4 SCCT 25 21 111 53.6% 89.2% 5 Unique 19 30 111 52.7% 78.4% 6 CCRL 19 24 112 52.7% 85.7% 7 Perfect CTG 12 17 114 51.8% 93.0% 8 Perfect BIN 12 24 114 51.8% 86.0% 9 TWIC -3 28 112 49.6% 81.3% 10 CCC -3 28 111 49.5% 81.1% 11 Balsa 2021 -6 22 114 49.1% 87.7% 12 SSDF -9 25 112 48.7% 84.8% 13 Oliprog E -13 23 111 48.2% 87.4% 14 TCEC -18 28 113 47.3% 80.5% 15 CEGT -22 30 110 46.8% 79.1% 16 FCP -28 28 110 45.9% 80.9% 17 FGRL -32 30 110 45.5% 78.2% 18 SPCC -47 36 112 43.3% 68.8% 1005 of 7650 games finished.
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-23
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And once more many thanks for your SF-SCCT engine..
Without you (plus Mr. Khalid), CTG books would not be in..
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Breaking News - 17.12.2023:
Well, the round - robin tour (which prefer various openings) is completed..
Perfect, CEDR, Balsa, Unique, SCCT, CCC... are performed really good !
A few words about Unique book: not bad, in case of strength + low draws
Perc. values...what we can need more?) 25+ years experience helps.. !)
On other hand, CEDR plus CCC proved their strength in older tours too!
Btw, CCC is based on games between 2018-2020 (latest I couldn't find..)
Where unfortunately and usually SPCC's openings suffers a lot that's why
Instead of SPCC, as next constant one will be entered the same Neptune,
Which is tuned to prefer many GMs openings (e.g participated in BN XXII)
Note that I already started testing many of the Tend opening books as well
And as 1st start, as far as possible, I will pick qualified players of BN XXII
Sure, as alternative other CTG books will be entered: DON Free, Grendel
Ok.that's all for now, new updates are coming soon and good luck to all! )
Current Book Leader: Perfect- as usual, one of best in case of short lines!
And I hope to see other Number One, because once is enough as Champ
Note also that since 2007: my target / rule is not to be Winner of my tours..
Well, the round - robin tour (which prefer various openings) is completed..
Perfect, CEDR, Balsa, Unique, SCCT, CCC... are performed really good !
A few words about Unique book: not bad, in case of strength + low draws
Perc. values...what we can need more?) 25+ years experience helps.. !)
On other hand, CEDR plus CCC proved their strength in older tours too!
Btw, CCC is based on games between 2018-2020 (latest I couldn't find..)
Where unfortunately and usually SPCC's openings suffers a lot that's why
Instead of SPCC, as next constant one will be entered the same Neptune,
Which is tuned to prefer many GMs openings (e.g participated in BN XXII)
Note that I already started testing many of the Tend opening books as well
And as 1st start, as far as possible, I will pick qualified players of BN XXII
Sure, as alternative other CTG books will be entered: DON Free, Grendel
Ok.that's all for now, new updates are coming soon and good luck to all! )
Current Book Leader: Perfect- as usual, one of best in case of short lines!
And I hope to see other Number One, because once is enough as Champ
Note also that since 2007: my target / rule is not to be Winner of my tours..
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Rank Name Elo +/- Games Score Draw
1 Perfect BIN 23 8 850 53.2% 86.7%
2 CEDR 16 9 850 52.4% 85.9%
3 Perfect CTG 16 7 850 52.3% 90.5%
4 Balsa 2022 13 9 850 51.9% 86.2%
5 Unique 12 10 850 51.8% 82.4%
6 Balsa 2023 12 9 850 51.7% 85.1%
7 SCCT 11 8 850 51.5% 86.8%
8 CCC 9 9 850 51.2% 84.1%
9 Balsa 2021 2 9 850 50.4% 86.6%
10 CCRL 0 8 850 50.1% 86.9%
11 SSDF 0 9 850 50.0% 84.2%
12 TWIC -2 8 850 49.7% 86.9%
13 Oliprog E -4 8 850 49.5% 87.2%
14 CEGT -16 10 850 47.8% 83.1%
15 TCEC -16 10 850 47.6% 82.1%
16 FGRL -17 9 850 47.5% 83.8%
17 FCP -20 10 850 47.1% 82.2%
18 SPCC -40 12 850 44.3% 74.7%
7650 of 7650 games finished.
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Indeed the fellow came up with something useful.
Thanks for the updates
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Not at all...OrgZ wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:02 pm Indeed the fellow came up with something useful.
Thanks for the updates![]()

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Another New Update - Calculated by Chessbase
New Entries Standings - Played vs Constant books so far:
Be aware of that,
Soon as possible current entries will be played each other too!
And interesting to point out that (under Cutechess GUI)
Two CTG books (DON + Grendel) are with best performance so far, nice..
Current Leader: Grendel - Congrats to Massimiliano Goi!
And here is another ranking of Constant books, e.g
They are tuned to prefer more various openings:
New Entries Standings - Played vs Constant books so far:
Be aware of that,
Soon as possible current entries will be played each other too!
And interesting to point out that (under Cutechess GUI)
Two CTG books (DON + Grendel) are with best performance so far, nice..
Current Leader: Grendel - Congrats to Massimiliano Goi!
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Rank Book Player Elo Games
1 Grendel 081023 2373 360
2 DON Free 2023 2371 360
3 Lion 110423 2370 360
4 Sun 2368 360
5 Dragon Tooth 2367 360
6 Drifter 2365 360
7 Taram 2363 380
8 Everest 300923 2363 380
9 CachoSCCT opt2 2363 360
10 Unicornio 2362 360
11 Xperimental v1 2361 360
12 Yoruba 091123 2361 360
13 OPTIMUS 2311 2361 360
14 LesChats 151223 2359 380
15 SENTINEL 3 2356 380
16 OlisFish 201123 2355 360
17 Bloom 090723 2355 360
18 Beast 2355 360
19 LooseCanon 2354 380
20 ChessBot 170623 2353 360
21 Goddess 2352 360
22 Red Dragon 2349 380
23 Dara Light 2349 360
24 HCanFree Upd 2348 380
25 ORIONPAX3 2344 380
They are tuned to prefer more various openings:
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Rank Book Player Elo Games
1 Perfect BIN 2354 1390
2 Perfect CTG 2354 1390
3 CEDR 2353 1390
4 Unique 2349 1390
5 SCCT 2348 1390
6 Balsa 2023 2347 1390
7 Balsa 2022 2346 1390
8 Balsa 2021 2345 1390
9 CCC 2343 1390
10 Neptune 2340 1220
11 SSDF 2339 1390
12 TWIC 2338 1390
13 CCRL 2338 1390
14 Oliprog E 2336 1390
15 TCEC 2326 1390
16 FGRL 2324 1390
17 FCP 2321 1390
18 CEGT 2320 1390
19 SPCC 2302 1050
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Breaking News - 18.12.2023:
Grendel, Grendel, Grendel managed to be as first Public Champ..nice!
Where Lion book (even as not so new) managed to be Private Champion!
And as you may see too, via this HUGE update...too many book entries!
Actually a lot of words to say, but no free time for all exc Grendel's author
Mr. Goi is requested his latest book to be participant (for previous tours)
But unfortunately I could not... as reason I use CuteChess GUI...but via
SF-SCCT engine, now his wish is done, plus as other CTG book entries:
Exc. Perfect, DON Free 2023, 1337chess 070422 are participated so far
Btw, just out of curiosity, many former Champion books entered as well e.g
Some of oldies are DON light2+Champ, they were Winners many times!
But they are old-dated e.g, Champ is based on 2018, DON Light on 2020
Be aware of that too, so far all CTG books are played with option Width 2
In same that means, not all of the main green colored moves are played!
For examples, Perfect CTG's main moves (as green) are d4, e4, c4, Nf3
But played only d4 and e4, sure with Width 4 prefers all the 4 main moves,
But just in case with Width 4, sometimes the disabled lines are preferring..
Sure I refer for some deeper positions..for this reason...Width 2 is safer..
Sure I' am meaning up to 10 moves, but what about in deeper openings?
Frankly, the situation is critical..as I mentioned before, even with Width 1
Frequently even the disabled lines are used to play..for this reason, I hope
All the next engine releases (with CTG book future) to be fixed....thanks...
Ok..the current tour is still active..e.g 25 other opening books are coming!
Let's see... both Champs (Grendel and Lion) will hold the tittles or not ?!)
Public Book Champion Grendel - My Congratulations to Massimiliano Goi!
Prıvate Opening Book Champion Lion - Congratulations to AJ Lamprecht!
For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-23
Best,
Sedat
Grendel, Grendel, Grendel managed to be as first Public Champ..nice!
Where Lion book (even as not so new) managed to be Private Champion!
And as you may see too, via this HUGE update...too many book entries!
Actually a lot of words to say, but no free time for all exc Grendel's author
Mr. Goi is requested his latest book to be participant (for previous tours)
But unfortunately I could not... as reason I use CuteChess GUI...but via
SF-SCCT engine, now his wish is done, plus as other CTG book entries:
Exc. Perfect, DON Free 2023, 1337chess 070422 are participated so far
Btw, just out of curiosity, many former Champion books entered as well e.g
Some of oldies are DON light2+Champ, they were Winners many times!
But they are old-dated e.g, Champ is based on 2018, DON Light on 2020
Be aware of that too, so far all CTG books are played with option Width 2
In same that means, not all of the main green colored moves are played!
For examples, Perfect CTG's main moves (as green) are d4, e4, c4, Nf3
But played only d4 and e4, sure with Width 4 prefers all the 4 main moves,
But just in case with Width 4, sometimes the disabled lines are preferring..
Sure I refer for some deeper positions..for this reason...Width 2 is safer..
Sure I' am meaning up to 10 moves, but what about in deeper openings?
Frankly, the situation is critical..as I mentioned before, even with Width 1
Frequently even the disabled lines are used to play..for this reason, I hope
All the next engine releases (with CTG book future) to be fixed....thanks...
Ok..the current tour is still active..e.g 25 other opening books are coming!
Let's see... both Champs (Grendel and Lion) will hold the tittles or not ?!)
Public Book Champion Grendel - My Congratulations to Massimiliano Goi!
Prıvate Opening Book Champion Lion - Congratulations to AJ Lamprecht!
For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-23
Best,
Sedat