deeds_chess_system
Re: deeds_chess_system
If your engine manages to learn, that's the basis.
Then :
- if your engine scores are based on an ephemeral WDL model, each new WDL model will pollute more and more your experience file.
I know at least one engine trainer in this situation => he no longer updates his engine at training.
- if your engine scores are based on the pawn value, as it is an international standard fixed value, no problem.
The pawn-based scores are intelligible, comparable between most databases/experience files/chess literature, editable by all the tools that I have already "generously shared at least 27 times" on github.
Good training !
Then :
- if your engine scores are based on an ephemeral WDL model, each new WDL model will pollute more and more your experience file.
I know at least one engine trainer in this situation => he no longer updates his engine at training.
- if your engine scores are based on the pawn value, as it is an international standard fixed value, no problem.
The pawn-based scores are intelligible, comparable between most databases/experience files/chess literature, editable by all the tools that I have already "generously shared at least 27 times" on github.
Good training !
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Re: deeds_chess_system
Dear Deeds!
I decided to use Eman 8.40, but when I find it again, some old links are dead, can you send it to me?
Thank you very much
I decided to use Eman 8.40, but when I find it again, some old links are dead, can you send it to me?
Thank you very much
Re: deeds_chess_system
Known limitations with Eman 8.40 :
- [bug] moves like Ra1-b1, Ra1-c1, etc. are not always written in Eman.exp
- [net] latest compatible network is nn-e1fb1ade4432 (22-04-2023)
- [exp] "SugaR Experience version 2" file format. If the experience file is written under the old v1 format => Eman will convert it to v2 at startup
- [exp] max filesize checked until 10 GB, 450M moves, etc. (see 22pieces_d10.exp)
- [cutechess-cli] concurrency=1 (Eman only reads/writes an unique exp file at the time). Create a learning farm for several Eman's instances at the time.
- [hash] min hash 1 GB when engine has to load/save an exp file
If you agree with all that, here is the link.
Good training !
- [bug] moves like Ra1-b1, Ra1-c1, etc. are not always written in Eman.exp
- [net] latest compatible network is nn-e1fb1ade4432 (22-04-2023)
- [exp] "SugaR Experience version 2" file format. If the experience file is written under the old v1 format => Eman will convert it to v2 at startup
- [exp] max filesize checked until 10 GB, 450M moves, etc. (see 22pieces_d10.exp)
- [cutechess-cli] concurrency=1 (Eman only reads/writes an unique exp file at the time). Create a learning farm for several Eman's instances at the time.
- [hash] min hash 1 GB when engine has to load/save an exp file
If you agree with all that, here is the link.
Good training !
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Re: deeds_chess_system
Unexpectedly, Eman 8.40 had so many errors, I didn't know how to fix it so I could consider using new versions.
I have Experience File Depth 43 of Sugar AI, update to November 2021, but do not know how to take advantage of it, because I don't use Sugar AI anymore
Thank you very much
I have Experience File Depth 43 of Sugar AI, update to November 2021, but do not know how to take advantage of it, because I don't use Sugar AI anymore
Thank you very much
Re: deeds_chess_system
ok no problem i'm deleting the link in order to save some spaces on my MEGA account.
good luck !
good luck !
Re: opening book vs experience file
But no one wants to steer results like you ! looolSedat Canbaz wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:52 pm Please just do not try to FOOLl Me .. OK ?
The way, which I work since many years...
Believe Me...You even did not start!
You don't even know how to measure which book has the best variety, you don't even know how many openings are covered or not by the books, you don't even know which book contains the most moves on a particular opening, etc.

Re: opening book vs experience file
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As long as you set learning engines in training mode (default settings) to make your unfair 1vs12 tourneys, you will never have any credibility in learning engines sphere.
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People already know what you did several times :Sedat Canbaz wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:52 pm Games ? you are really very funny...)))
Even if they are available...in PGN, CBH etc.
it does not mean that:
Your current played match conditions are fair....
As long as you set learning engines in training mode (default settings) to make your unfair 1vs12 tourneys, you will never have any credibility in learning engines sphere.
Re: opening book vs experience file
Your ignorance is unbearable !Sedat Canbaz wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:52 pm Why you do not share your exp file ?
Where other chess friends may benefit...
Be generous at least once...
I've shared more experience files than all engine trainers put together :
31.05.2021
03.06.2021
09.06.2021
I even got banned so other chess friends could benefit :
11.10.2021
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Re: opening book vs experience file
Oh..really sorry for sayingdeeds wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:45 pmYour ignorance is unbearable !Sedat Canbaz wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:52 pm Why you do not share your exp file ?
Where other chess friends may benefit...
Be generous at least once...
I've shared more experience files than all engine trainers put together :
31.05.2021
03.06.2021
09.06.2021
I even got banned so other chess friends could benefit :
11.10.2021
'be generous at least once...'
But anyhow, actually my real question was regarding
Your latest exp file, which is under test (vs HCanFree book)
Do you plan to share it..?
Thanks in advance