SedatChess

[Sedat Canbaz]

Breaking News (05.10.2023):
1st of all, OPTIMUS's performance is stable as stone, leading via 3635 Elo
Hamish 5, LesChats 041023 are entered and here are played results...Btw,
The latest LesChats 041023 is not same as previous LesChat 130923 vers
E.g in latest LesChats: White's main move d4 and as Black c5 are disabled,
Where in LesChat 130923 the mentioned main moves are enabled for play...
So it seems one of these factors played some worse role over performances...
E.g in my guess, if re-run LesChats130923, I expect close to 3627 Elo again..
On other hand, the new Hamish 5 performed slightly better than Hamish 4.1
And just out of curiosity, Feta X book plus new RofChade 3.1 are played too
Note also that the current tour is paused too...actually there are more books,
Which I could test.. but mostly of them are old-dated...so no BIG chances...
Be aware also that there is a possibility this tour to be ended in next days..

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-17

Best,
Sedat

[Homayoun]

Many thanks , Mr. Sedat. Let’s see what will bethe results of this great tournament.
Best regards

[OrgZ]

Breaking News (05.10.2023):
1st of all, OPTIMUS's performance is stable as stone, leading via 3635 Elo
Hamish 5, LesChats 041023 are entered and here are played results...Btw,
The latest LesChats 041023 is not same as previous LesChat 130923 vers
E.g in latest LesChats: White's main move d4 and as Black c5 are disabled,
Where in LesChat 130923 the mentioned main moves are enabled for play...
So it seems one of these factors played some worse role over performances...
E.g in my guess, if re-run LesChats130923, I expect close to 3627 Elo again..
On other hand, the new Hamish 5 performed slightly better than Hamish 4.1
And just out of curiosity, Feta X book plus new RofChade 3.1 are played too
Note also that the current tour is paused too...actually there are more books,
Which I could test.. but mostly of them are old-dated...so no BIG chances...
Be aware also that there is a possibility this tour to be ended in next days..

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-17

Best,
Sedat

Congrats Conrog
Thanks 4 the tour.....

[Sedat Canbaz]

Many thanks , Mr. Sedat. Let’s see what will bethe results of this great tournament.
Best regards

Dear Mr Homayoun

Not at all..it is my pleasure and thanks for your replay..

Well, we will see...still not sure to continue running it or not.. but
Very likely I will end it.. and later I may run another NON-NNUE tour
Sure just in case of next time,
I will do my best to pick more close engines of 3600 Elo

Greetings )

[Sedat Canbaz]

Breaking News (05.10.2023):
1st of all, OPTIMUS's performance is stable as stone, leading via 3635 Elo
Hamish 5, LesChats 041023 are entered and here are played results...Btw,
The latest LesChats 041023 is not same as previous LesChat 130923 vers
E.g in latest LesChats: White's main move d4 and as Black c5 are disabled,
Where in LesChat 130923 the mentioned main moves are enabled for play...
So it seems one of these factors played some worse role over performances...
E.g in my guess, if re-run LesChats130923, I expect close to 3627 Elo again..
On other hand, the new Hamish 5 performed slightly better than Hamish 4.1
And just out of curiosity, Feta X book plus new RofChade 3.1 are played too
Note also that the current tour is paused too...actually there are more books,
Which I could test.. but mostly of them are old-dated...so no BIG chances...
Be aware also that there is a possibility this tour to be ended in next days..

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-17

Best,
Sedat

Congrats Conrog
Thanks 4 the tour.....

Dear Mr. Tanick

You are welcome )

By the way, I wonder:
Which tour do you like more ?
I mean as NNUE book tour or the one as NON-NNUE ?

Greetings )

[OrgZ]

Breaking News (05.10.2023):
1st of all, OPTIMUS's performance is stable as stone, leading via 3635 Elo
Hamish 5, LesChats 041023 are entered and here are played results...Btw,
The latest LesChats 041023 is not same as previous LesChat 130923 vers
E.g in latest LesChats: White's main move d4 and as Black c5 are disabled,
Where in LesChat 130923 the mentioned main moves are enabled for play...
So it seems one of these factors played some worse role over performances...
E.g in my guess, if re-run LesChats130923, I expect close to 3627 Elo again..
On other hand, the new Hamish 5 performed slightly better than Hamish 4.1
And just out of curiosity, Feta X book plus new RofChade 3.1 are played too
Note also that the current tour is paused too...actually there are more books,
Which I could test.. but mostly of them are old-dated...so no BIG chances...
Be aware also that there is a possibility this tour to be ended in next days..

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-17

Best,
Sedat

Congrats Conrog
Thanks 4 the tour.....

Dear Mr. Tanick

You are welcome )

By the way, I wonder:
Which tour do you like more ?
I mean as NNUE book tour or the one as NON-NNUE ?

Greetings )

I will have to go with no NNUE.
We are testing the book not the engine strength.
If its not nnue then the book with moves in many positions has advantage bcz if there's nnue now the book without moves will be saved.

Although games with nnue have quality but we don't really get to see the full performance of the book. The engine is doing the work not the book.

Thats my view Mr Sedat

[Ding-Bat]

Totally agree with this +1

Breaking News (05.10.2023):
1st of all, OPTIMUS's performance is stable as stone, leading via 3635 Elo
Hamish 5, LesChats 041023 are entered and here are played results...Btw,
The latest LesChats 041023 is not same as previous LesChat 130923 vers
E.g in latest LesChats: White's main move d4 and as Black c5 are disabled,
Where in LesChat 130923 the mentioned main moves are enabled for play...
So it seems one of these factors played some worse role over performances...
E.g in my guess, if re-run LesChats130923, I expect close to 3627 Elo again..
On other hand, the new Hamish 5 performed slightly better than Hamish 4.1
And just out of curiosity, Feta X book plus new RofChade 3.1 are played too
Note also that the current tour is paused too...actually there are more books,
Which I could test.. but mostly of them are old-dated...so no BIG chances...
Be aware also that there is a possibility this tour to be ended in next days..

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-17

Best,
Sedat

Congrats Conrog
Thanks 4 the tour.....

Dear Mr. Tanick

You are welcome )

By the way, I wonder:
Which tour do you like more ?
I mean as NNUE book tour or the one as NON-NNUE ?

Greetings )

I will have to go with no NNUE.
We are testing the book not the engine strength.
If its not nnue then the book with moves in many positions has advantage bcz if there's nnue now the book without moves will be saved.

Although games with nnue have quality but we don't really get to see the full performance of the book. The engine is doing the work not the book.

Thats my view Mr Sedat

[cubail]

https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... nn-vs-book
look nnue number 1 book

[OrgZ]

https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... nn-vs-book
look nnue number 1 book

My point exactly. nnue is a big FACTOR on these book tournaments.

[Sedat Canbaz]

I will have to go with no NNUE.
We are testing the book not the engine strength.
If its not nnue then the book with moves in many positions has advantage bcz if there's nnue now the book without moves will be saved.

Although games with nnue have quality but we don't really get to see the full performance of the book. The engine is doing the work not the book.

Thats my view Mr Sedat

Good points...

What I can add more over these interesting issues,
To call it as 'real' book tournament, plus just in case of
Checking/Testing the real opening book strength, then
Undoubtedly all books have to use NON-NNUE engine/s

BTW, just in case of book tours via Evalfiles...
Then I think that it's not a best way...because
NNUE assistance may help a lot to the weakest, critical opening lines

But I admit also that,
Sometimes is not so bad idea to test books as NNUE enabled as well
You know... more better )

Greetings