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Re: Ramz Tours & TESTS
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 8:26 am
by OrgZ
Homayoun wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 7:42 am
Thank you very much for the tests. These tests show the Halogen situation more clear. And the author claim of +180 Elo progress to Halogen 11 is not true and it is very optimistic.
Best regards
And what i have seen is that when Rebel evaluated
-/+1.20 Halogen evaluated its position as -/+0.21. once Rebel reaches +2.00 now Halogen starts to see trouble giving +0.73.
Something is wrong with this engine. It can't see danger unless its too late
one of the games played
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[Event "My Tournament"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2024.08.03"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Halogen12-windows-avx2"]
[Black "Rebel-16.3"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C53"]
[GameDuration "00:02:42"]
[GameEndTime "2024-08-03T05:36:13.257 Time"]
[GameStartTime "2024-08-03T05:33:30.397 Time"]
[Opening "Giuoco Piano"]
[PlyCount "87"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
1.e4
book
1...e5
book
2.Nf3
book
2...Nc6
book
3.Bc4
book
3...Bc5
book
4.c3
book
4...Nf6
book
5.d3
book
5...d6
book
6.O-O
book
6...a5
book
7.Re1
book
7...O-O
book
8.Nbd2
book
8...Ba7
book
9.Bb5
book
9...Ng4
+0.49/15 2.5s
10.Re2
-0.09/16 2.8s
10...f5
-0.22/15 2.3s
11.exf5
0.00/16 4.0s
11...Bxf5
+0.62/16 3.5s
12.Nf1
-0.31/16 2.7s
12...Nf6
+0.97/18 12s
13.h3
-0.40/16 3.8s
13...h6
+0.93/16 3.3s
14.Ng3
-0.46/18 2.9s
14...Bg6
+1.08/15 1.9s
15.Be3
-0.26/15 2.9s
15...Nh5
+0.62/17 2.2s
16.Bxa7
-0.23/16 1.9s
16...Nxa7
+1.07/16 2.0s
17.Bc4+
-0.17/15 3.9s
17...Kh8
+1.00/16 3.4s
18.Re3
-0.56/16 1.9s
18...Nf4
+1.45/19 1.8s
19.Bb3
-0.64/19 3.8s
19...Nc6
+1.26/18 1.6s
20.d4
-0.78/18 2.6s
20...exd4
+1.32/19 2.6s
21.cxd4
-0.78/18 2.6s
21...Nb4
+1.38/19 1.4s
22.Qd2
-0.79/19 2.6s
22...Qf6
+1.43/20 1.6s
23.a3
-0.80/17 1.9s
23...Nbd5
+1.86/19 2.2s
24.Bxd5
-0.83/19 2.9s
24...Nxd5
+2.05/17 1.7s
25.Re2
-0.84/19 3.4s
25...Be8
+1.97/17 1.4s
26.Ne1
-0.89/18 3.3s
26...Bc6
+1.83/15 1.5s
27.f3
-0.84/16 1.6s
27...Nf4
+2.15/17 1.9s
28.Re3
-0.96/16 1.9s
28...Rae8
+2.76/15 1.2s
29.Rxe8
-1.51/17 1.8s
29...Rxe8
+3.22/16 1.8s
30.Kh2
-0.90/17 1.9s
30...h5
+3.33/17 1.9s
31.d5
-1.37/16 2.1s
31...Bxd5
+4.39/16 1.8s
32.Nxh5
-1.87/15 3.0s
32...Nxh5
+5.38/18 1.3s
33.Qxd5
-2.44/15 1.6s
33...Qg6
+6.09/19 1.9s
34.Nd3
-3.09/15 2.9s
34...Re2
+6.41/19 1.9s
35.Rg1
-3.72/16 2.7s
35...Rd2
+6.17/18 2.8s
36.Qxa5
-4.05/15 1.3s
36...Rxd3
+6.03/18 1.1s
37.Qxc7
-4.11/15 1.6s
37...Qg5
+6.40/17 1.7s
38.Qc8+
-4.25/14 1.9s
38...Kh7
+6.88/18 2.6s
39.Rf1
-4.39/14 1.4s
39...Qe5+
+7.44/18 1.4s
40.Kg1
-5.19/14 1.6s
40...Rd2
+7.81/18 1.2s
41.Qc4
-5.38/13 1.3s
41...Nf4
+7.83/20 1.4s
42.Kh1
-6.11/14 1.3s
42...d5
+10.75/17 1.3s
43.Qb4
-7.17/14 2.5s
43...Rxg2
+10.98/18 1.4s
44.Qe1
-8.96/16 2.3s, Black wins by adjudication
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Re: Ramz Tours & TESTS
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 9:05 am
by Homayoun
Yes. Yesterday I played some blitz games vs this engine. I have noticed the evaluation problem too. It announced my critacl situations during the games very late .Seems now a days adjusting the evaluation of NNUE engines is something difficult for authors. We have strong engines but we have few engines that are both strong and also have reliable evaluations. For example Alexandria and Clover are very strong engines, no doubt. But their evaluations are terrible. Although I know that the author of Alexandria want to change the evaluation of his engine( by following the GitHub page). If he would successfully do that be sure Alexandria will be best engine after Stockfish and Torch. As you know better, when a strong chess player wants to use an engine for analysis the correct evaluation of the engine has a great role.
Best regards
Re: Ramz Tours & TESTS
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 1:06 pm
by OrgZ
Stockfish 240803_avx2 vs Raid v3.6 TR_avx2
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MACHINE:14th Gen Core i7-14700K Desktop Processor 20 (8P+12E) Cores
Hash:64
4 threads
openings: Ramz-Private-Suite
TC: 2m+1s
Score of Stockfish 240803_avx2 vs Raid v3.6 TR_avx2: 6 - 8 - 186 [0.495]
... Stockfish 240803_avx2 playing White: 5 - 1 - 94 [0.520] 100
... Stockfish 240803_avx2 playing Black: 1 - 7 - 92 [0.470] 100
... White vs Black: 12 - 2 - 186 [0.525] 200
Elo difference: -3.5 +/- 12.7, LOS: 29.6 %, DrawRatio: 93.0 %
200 of 200 games finished.
Re: Ramz Tours & TESTS
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 10:45 am
by Homayoun
Re: Ramz Tours & TESTS
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:12 pm
by OrgZ
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MACHINE:14th Gen Core i7-14700K Desktop Processor 20 (8P+12E) Cores
TC: 2m+1s
Hash 64
4 Threads
openings: Ramz-Private-Suite
Score of Private19Sf_VICE_sse41 vs Stockfish 240910_sse41: 17 - 10 - 173 [0.517]
... Private19Sf_VICE_sse41 playing White: 12 - 2 - 86 [0.550] 100
... Private19Sf_VICE_sse41 playing Black: 5 - 8 - 87 [0.485] 100
... White vs Black: 20 - 7 - 173 [0.532] 200
Elo difference: 12.2 +/- 17.6, LOS: 91.1 %, DrawRatio: 86.5 %
200 of 200 games finished.
games:
https://pixeldrain.com/u/rSCt6kaS
Re: Ramz Tours & TESTS
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:38 pm
by Sedat Canbaz
OrgZ wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:12 pm
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MACHINE:14th Gen Core i7-14700K Desktop Processor 20 (8P+12E) Cores
TC: 2m+1s
Hash 64
4 Threads
openings: Ramz-Private-Suite
Score of Private19Sf_VICE_sse41 vs Stockfish 240910_sse41: 17 - 10 - 173 [0.517]
... Private19Sf_VICE_sse41 playing White: 12 - 2 - 86 [0.550] 100
... Private19Sf_VICE_sse41 playing Black: 5 - 8 - 87 [0.485] 100
... White vs Black: 20 - 7 - 173 [0.532] 200
Elo difference: 12.2 +/- 17.6, LOS: 91.1 %, DrawRatio: 86.5 %
200 of 200 games finished.
games:
https://pixeldrain.com/u/rSCt6kaS
Thanks and
Re: Ramz Tours & TESTS
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:25 pm
by OrgZ
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MACHINE:14th Gen Core i7-14700K Desktop Processor 20 (8P+12E) Cores
TC: 2m+1s
Hash 64
4 Threads
openings: Ramz-Private-Suite
Score of SF-POLY 210924a_sse41 vs SF-POLY 210924b_sse41: 11 - 11 - 178 [0.500]
... SF-POLY 210924a_sse41 playing White: 8 - 3 - 89 [0.525] 100
... SF-POLY 210924a_sse41 playing Black: 3 - 8 - 89 [0.475] 100
... White vs Black: 16 - 6 - 178 [0.525] 200
Elo difference: 0.0 +/- 16.0, LOS: 50.0 %, DrawRatio: 89.0 %
200 of 200 games finished.
Re: Ramz Tours & TESTS
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 4:25 pm
by OrgZ
Sailfish_3 vs Geralt
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Engine: Jigsaw v6.0
Hash 64
TC: 30s+1s
Score of Geralt vs Sailfish_3: 5 - 56 - 139 [0.372]
... Geralt playing White: 4 - 12 - 84 [0.460] 100
... Geralt playing Black: 1 - 44 - 55 [0.285] 100
... White vs Black: 48 - 13 - 139 [0.588] 200
Elo difference: -90.6 +/- 25.2, LOS: 0.0 %, DrawRatio: 69.5 %
200 of 200 games finished.
games:
https://pixeldrain.com/u/s9g7j5Wn
Re: Ramz Tours & TESTS
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 5:12 pm
by Sedat Canbaz
OrgZ wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 4:25 pm
Sailfish_3 vs Geralt
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Engine: Jigsaw v6.0
Hash 64
TC: 30s+1s
Score of Geralt vs Sailfish_3: 5 - 56 - 139 [0.372]
... Geralt playing White: 4 - 12 - 84 [0.460] 100
... Geralt playing Black: 1 - 44 - 55 [0.285] 100
... White vs Black: 48 - 13 - 139 [0.588] 200
Elo difference: -90.6 +/- 25.2, LOS: 0.0 %, DrawRatio: 69.5 %
200 of 200 games finished.
games:
https://pixeldrain.com/u/s9g7j5Wn
Dear OrgZ,
Congrats! It seems Sailfish_3 is super strong too..
On other hand, no BIG surprise... in case of match:
A new Private book to overcome over old Public one..
Actually sad that you did not submit Sailfish_3 in recent CS
Who knows? if your book suits to Size rules...then maybe your
Book would be Champion of Small Size CS...yes...you missed.,
Now is too late, since SMALL SIZE CS is already over, but
I have other good news as well, Medium Size CS is still active...
Anyhow, I will be glad if I will have Sailfish_3 too,
Then...in future tours: Sailfish_3 will be in as well..
Greetings )
Re: Ramz Tours & TESTS
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 5:28 pm
by OrgZ
Sailfish 3 is about 7mb. I'll share results vs Optimis2407
Yeah, I'll send it...
