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Re: Programmers Open Letter to ICGA on Rybka/Fruit
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:53 am
by MoldyJacket
Re: Programmers Open Letter to ICGA on Rybka/Fruit
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:13 pm
by hyatt
Uly wrote:BB+ wrote:[3h][iii] Recommending to other computer event organizers the exclusion of persons who have been found guilty by the Panel.
Oh, I finally get it, since it's the person who is getting excluded, and not the software, now, it's irrelevant if Rybka 4.1 and future versions are clean, since proof that Rybka 1.6.1 is a clone of Crafty would be enough to exclude Vas.
Personally, if someone cheats, then he is a cheater. You apparently want to take the stance "OK, so he copied Crafty, and then copied Fruit, but most of that is gone in today's version (whether or not this is true is not yet clear) and so "everything is OK."
That's an extremely odd view of justice. "OK, he killed someone 5 years ago, but today he is a model citizen, so you should not prosecute him for that old transgression?"
Re: Programmers Open Letter to ICGA on Rybka/Fruit
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:27 pm
by Uly
hyatt wrote:"OK, so he copied Crafty, and then copied Fruit, but most of that is gone in today's version (whether or not this is true is not yet clear) and so "everything is OK."
No, I'm saying "but IF most of that is gone in today's version, then future Rybkas should be allowed to participate".
hyatt wrote:"OK, he killed someone 5 years ago, but today he is a model citizen, so you should not prosecute him for that old transgression?"
Sure, take back his trophies, and rewrite history, I don't think it really matters, what is relevant is the future (future participation of Rybka in tourneys, otherwise this is clearly a case of "we can't beat him on the board, so we just exclude him from the tourney").
Re: Programmers Open Letter to ICGA on Rybka/Fruit
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:59 am
by thorstenczub
if someone clones an engine just for himself, with no commercial interest,
it is ONE thing.
if someone clones an engine and sells it... thats IMO a completely different case here.
Re: Programmers Open Letter to ICGA on Rybka/Fruit
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:22 pm
by Harvey Williamson
thorstenczub wrote:if someone clones an engine just for himself, with no commercial interest,
it is ONE thing.
if someone clones an engine and sells it... thats IMO a completely different case here.
Wow Thor we agree. btw i just bought a new Citroen the DS3 Black - fantastic car.
Re: Programmers Open Letter to ICGA on Rybka/Fruit
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:17 am
by ernest
Harvey Williamson wrote:new Citroen the DS3 Black - fantastic car.
...not cheap!
Re: Programmers Open Letter to ICGA on Rybka/Fruit
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:19 am
by Harvey Williamson
ernest wrote:Harvey Williamson wrote:new Citroen the DS3 Black - fantastic car.
...not cheap!
I since upgraded to the DS3 Sport! Wow!!!
Re: Programmers Open Letter to ICGA on Rybka/Fruit
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:10 am
by thorstenczub
Harvey Williamson wrote:ernest wrote:Harvey Williamson wrote:new Citroen the DS3 Black - fantastic car.
...not cheap!
I since upgraded to the DS3 Sport! Wow!!!
congratulation...
