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Re: opening book vs experience file
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:30 pm
by deeds
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess-gui 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : Jeroen Noomen's 50 tcec season 22 superfinal openings
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 166 64 68.5 100 68.5 39 59 2 59.0 0 1
2 Olisfish-040623.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 31.5 100 31.5 2 59 39 59.0 166 1
White advantage = 166.17 +/- 33.76
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
link :
games
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
Re: pawn-value based exp file vs polyglot bin book
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:32 pm
by deeds
pawn-value based experience file : experience data purely trained by Eman engine until 8.40 release (before Nov 5, 2022 patch)
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess-gui 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : startpos
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 0 49 50.0 100 50.0 0 100 0 100.0 0 1
2 Olisfish-040623.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 50.0 100 50.0 0 100 0 100.0 0 1
White advantage = 0.00 +/- 25.05
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
Opening list : GHPPN's 15 most popular openings (Olisfish-040623's Opening Rate : 60%)
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 0 92 15.0 30 50.0 0 30 0 100.0 0 1
2 Olisfish-040623.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 15.0 30 50.0 0 30 0 100.0 0 1
White advantage = 0.00 +/- 46.89
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
Opening list : 20 first legal moves (Olisfish-040623's Opening Rate : 20%)
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 9 81 20.5 40 51.3 2 37 1 92.5 0 1
2 Olisfish-040623.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 19.5 40 48.8 1 37 2 92.5 9 1
White advantage = -26.35 +/- 40.96
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
Opening list : Albert Silver's 25 gambit suit (Olisfish-040623's Opening Rate : 4%)
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 50 70 28.5 50 57.0 12 33 5 66.0 0 1
2 Olisfish-040623.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 21.5 50 43.0 5 33 12 66.0 50 1
White advantage = -21.47 +/- 36.46
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
Opening list : Jeroen Noomen's 50 tcec season 22 superfinal openings (Olisfish-040623's Opening Rate : 0%)
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 166 64 68.5 100 68.5 39 59 2 59.0 0 1
2 Olisfish-040623.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 31.5 100 31.5 2 59 39 59.0 166 1
White advantage = 166.17 +/- 33.76
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
link :
games
Re: pawn-value based exp file vs polyglot bin book
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:34 pm
by deeds
Overall :
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 50 27 182.5 320 57.0 53 259 8 80.9 0 1
2 Olisfish-040623.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 137.5 320 43.0 8 259 53 80.9 50 1
White advantage = 34.77 +/- 13.60
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
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002 players : avg. D31, 002 120 ms/move, 000 320 games, 00 032 115 moves
depth4_190623 (eman 8.40) : avg. D30, 002 012 ms/move, 000 320 games, 00 016 851 moves
olisfish-040623 (eman 8.40) : avg. D31, 002 238 ms/move, 000 320 games, 00 015 264 moves
Averages :
0 213 sec/game (4 min/game)
114 plies/game (100 played plies/game)
Game stages :
- opening @ avg. D27, 003 489 ms/move
- middleg @ avg. D28, 001 690 ms/move
- endgame @ avg. D37, 001 222 ms/move
Re: opening book vs experience file
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 6:52 am
by deeds
By grouping the engines with experience files VS the engines with opening books, we obtain this overall result :
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 experience_files (Eman 8.xx) : 43 9 1613.0 2880 56.0 416 2394 70 83.1 0 1
2 opening_books (Eman 8.xx) : 0 ---- 1267.0 2880 44.0 70 2394 416 83.1 43 1
White advantage = 31.46 +/- 4.72
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
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experience_files (eman 8.xx) : avg. D31, 001 984 ms/move, 002 880 games, 00 153 584 moves
opening_books (eman 8.xx) : avg. D32, 002 353 ms/move, 002 880 games, 00 129 452 moves
Averages :
212 sec/game (4 min/game)
115 plies/game (098 played plies/game)
Game stages :
- opening @ avg. D27, 003 446 ms/move
- middleg @ avg. D29, 001 789 ms/move
- endgame @ avg. D39, 001 260 ms/move
Re: opening book vs experience file
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:05 pm
by deeds
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess-gui 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : startpos
Code: Select all
# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 0 49 50.0 100 50.0 0 100 0 100.0 0 1
2 Chucaro 4 UPD2.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 50.0 100 50.0 0 100 0 100.0 0 1
White advantage = 0.00 +/- 25.05
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
link :
games
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
Re: opening book vs experience file
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 7:32 pm
by deeds
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : GHPPN's 15 most popular openings
Code: Select all
# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 0 92 15.0 30 50.0 0 30 0 100.0 0 1
2 Chucaro 4 UPD2.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 15.0 30 50.0 0 30 0 100.0 0 1
White advantage = 0.00 +/- 46.89
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
link :
games
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
Re: opening book vs experience file
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:33 pm
by deeds
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : 20 first legal moves
Code: Select all
# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 9 81 20.5 40 51.3 2 37 1 92.5 0 1
2 Chucaro 4 UPD2.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 19.5 40 48.8 1 37 2 92.5 9 1
White advantage = -26.35 +/- 40.96
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
link :
games
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
Re: opening book vs experience file
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 4:35 am
by deeds
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : Albert Silver's 25 gambit suit
Code: Select all
# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 42 69 28.0 50 56.0 11 34 5 68.0 0 1
2 Chucaro 4 UPD2.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 22.0 50 44.0 5 34 11 68.0 42 1
White advantage = -14.23 +/- 35.75
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
link :
games
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
Re: opening book vs experience file
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:48 am
by deeds
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess-gui 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : Jeroen Noomen's 50 tcec season 22 superfinal openings
Code: Select all
# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 192 70 70.0 100 70.0 43 54 3 54.0 0 1
2 Chucaro 4 UPD2.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 30.0 100 30.0 3 54 43 54.0 192 1
White advantage = 192.38 +/- 35.84
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
link :
games
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
Re: pawn-value based exp file vs polyglot bin book
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:50 am
by deeds
pawn-value based experience file : experience data purely trained by Eman engine until 8.40 release (before Nov 5, 2022 patch)
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess-gui 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : startpos
Code: Select all
# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 0 49 50.0 100 50.0 0 100 0 100.0 0 1
2 Chucaro 4 UPD2.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 50.0 100 50.0 0 100 0 100.0 0 1
White advantage = 0.00 +/- 25.05
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
Opening list : GHPPN's 15 most popular openings (Chucaro 4 UPD2's Opening Rate : 20%)
Code: Select all
# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 0 92 15.0 30 50.0 0 30 0 100.0 0 1
2 Chucaro 4 UPD2.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 15.0 30 50.0 0 30 0 100.0 0 1
White advantage = 0.00 +/- 46.89
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
Opening list : 20 first legal moves (Chucaro 4 UPD2's Opening Rate : 5%)
Code: Select all
# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 9 81 20.5 40 51.3 2 37 1 92.5 0 1
2 Chucaro 4 UPD2.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 19.5 40 48.8 1 37 2 92.5 9 1
White advantage = -26.35 +/- 40.96
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
Opening list : Albert Silver's 25 gambit suit (Chucaro 4 UPD2's Opening Rate : 4%)
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 42 69 28.0 50 56.0 11 34 5 68.0 0 1
2 Chucaro 4 UPD2.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 22.0 50 44.0 5 34 11 68.0 42 1
White advantage = -14.23 +/- 35.75
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
Opening list : Jeroen Noomen's 50 tcec season 22 superfinal openings (Chucaro 4 UPD2's Opening Rate : 0%)
Code: Select all
# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 192 70 70.0 100 70.0 43 54 3 54.0 0 1
2 Chucaro 4 UPD2.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 30.0 100 30.0 3 54 43 54.0 192 1
White advantage = 192.38 +/- 35.84
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
link :
games