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Re: opening book vs experience file
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:33 pm
by deeds
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess-gui 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : Jeroen Noomen's 50 tcec season 22 superfinal openings
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 175 67 69.0 100 69.0 40 58 2 58.0 0 1
2 Canseven-140223.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 31.0 100 31.0 2 58 40 58.0 175 1
White advantage = 174.44 +/- 34.76
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
link :
games
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
Re: pawn-value based exp file vs polyglot bin book
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:42 pm
by deeds
pawn-value based experience file : experience data purely trained by Eman engine until 8.40 release (before Nov 5, 2022 patch)
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess-gui 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : startpos
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 0 49 50.0 100 50.0 0 100 0 100.0 0 1
2 Canseven-140223.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 50.0 100 50.0 0 100 0 100.0 0 1
White advantage = 0.00 +/- 25.05
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
Opening list : GHPPN's 15 most popular openings (Canseven-140223's Opening Rate : 87%)
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 0 92 15.0 30 50.0 0 30 0 100.0 0 1
2 Canseven-140223.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 15.0 30 50.0 0 30 0 100.0 0 1
White advantage = 0.00 +/- 46.89
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
Opening list : 20 first legal moves (Canseven-140223's Opening Rate : 50%)
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 18 81 21.0 40 52.5 3 36 1 90.0 0 1
2 Canseven-140223.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 19.0 40 47.5 1 36 3 90.0 18 1
White advantage = -35.26 +/- 40.81
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
Opening list : Albert Silver's 25 gambit suit (Canseven-140223's Opening Rate : 16%)
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 50 69 28.5 50 57.0 11 35 4 70.0 0 1
2 Canseven-140223.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 21.5 50 43.0 4 35 11 70.0 50 1
White advantage = 21.47 +/- 35.47
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
Opening list : Jeroen Noomen's 50 tcec season 22 superfinal openings (Canseven-140223's Opening Rate : 0%)
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 175 67 69.0 100 69.0 40 58 2 58.0 0 1
2 Canseven-140223.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 31.0 100 31.0 2 58 40 58.0 175 1
White advantage = 174.44 +/- 34.76
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
link :
games
Re: pawn-value based exp file vs polyglot bin book
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:46 pm
by deeds
Overall :
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 53 27 183.5 320 57.3 54 259 7 80.9 0 1
2 Canseven-140223.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 136.5 320 42.7 7 259 54 80.9 53 1
White advantage = 41.63 +/- 13.69
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
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002 players : avg. D31, 002 180 ms/move, 000 320 games, 00 031 414 moves
canseven-140223 (eman 8.40) : avg. D32, 002 409 ms/move, 000 320 games, 00 014 245 moves
depth4_190623 (eman 8.40) : avg. D30, 001 989 ms/move, 000 320 games, 00 017 169 moves
Averages :
0 214 sec/game (4 min/game)
116 plies/game (098 played plies/game)
Game stages :
- opening @ avg. D27, 003 612 ms/move
- middleg @ avg. D29, 001 732 ms/move
- endgame @ avg. D37, 001 230 ms/move
Re: opening book vs experience file
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 8:08 pm
by deeds
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess-gui 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : startpos
Code: Select all
# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 0 49 50.0 100 50.0 0 100 0 100.0 0 1
2 Olisfish-040623.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 50.0 100 50.0 0 100 0 100.0 0 1
White advantage = 0.00 +/- 25.05
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
link :
games
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
Re: opening book vs experience file
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:12 am
by deeds
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : GHPPN's 15 most popular openings
Code: Select all
# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 0 92 15.0 30 50.0 0 30 0 100.0 0 1
2 Olisfish-040623.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 15.0 30 50.0 0 30 0 100.0 0 1
White advantage = 0.00 +/- 46.89
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
link :
games
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
Re: opening book vs experience file
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:31 pm
by deeds
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : 20 first legal moves
Code: Select all
# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 9 81 20.5 40 51.3 2 37 1 92.5 0 1
2 Olisfish-040623.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 19.5 40 48.8 1 37 2 92.5 9 1
White advantage = -26.35 +/- 40.96
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
link :
games
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
Re: opening book vs experience file
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 6:27 pm
by Skynet
deeds wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:31 pm
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Hey Chris, what's up? If i understand correctly, you use 40 threads per engine, right? If so, how much Nps you are getting at the start position?
Re: opening book vs experience file
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 6:32 pm
by deeds
Skynet wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 6:27 pm
deeds wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:31 pm
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Hey Chris, what's up? If i understand correctly, you use 40 threads per engine, right? If so, how much Nps you are getting at the start position?
Yes 40 threads/engine when training with books at TC 1m+1s to get the same average depths as 7-8 threads/engine when training with learning engines at TC 2m+2s. Look at ipmanchess for all my hosts speed, at the moment they are at training for days...
Re: opening book vs experience file
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 6:34 pm
by Skynet
deeds wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 6:32 pm
Skynet wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 6:27 pm
deeds wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:31 pm
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Hey Chris, what's up? If i understand correctly, you use 40 threads per engine, right? If so, how much Nps you are getting at the start position?
Yes 40 threads/engine when training with books at TC 1m+1s to get the same average depths as 7-8 threads/engine when training with learning engines at TC 2m+2s. Look at ipmanchess for all my hosts speed, at the moment they are at training for days...
Ok, got it, thanks.
Re: opening book vs experience file
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:43 pm
by deeds
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : Albert Silver's 25 gambit suit
Code: Select all
# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 50 70 28.5 50 57.0 12 33 5 66.0 0 1
2 Olisfish-040623.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 21.5 50 43.0 5 33 12 66.0 50 1
White advantage = -21.47 +/- 36.46
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
link :
games
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw