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Re: ChessBase: A Gross Miscarriage of Justice in Computer Ch
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:06 am
by hyatt
I think you grossly misunderstood the intent. Rather than your "let's accept all this copying crap" I think the intent was to tighten the rules to make enforcement easier, as opposed to the rather ridiculous "moving into the 21st century". Early in the panel discussions, we discussed this idea some, how to avoid the RE effort, while protecting commercial programming secrets. Turns out there are multi-key decryption algorithms, where you can require M out of N keys before something can be decrypted, to prevent one person from "peeking into pandora's box". But there are other complex issues, such as verifying that the source or executable submitted is actually what plays during the event. All of it requires a lot of time and effort to pull off. Eventually something will happen, or perhaps such events will simply go away. If enough want "anything goes" anything can be organized online. We've successfully done CCTs for many years now as an example...
Re: ChessBase: A Gross Miscarriage of Justice in Computer Ch
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:35 am
by Rebel
hyatt wrote:I think you grossly misunderstood the intent. Rather than your "let's accept all this copying crap" I think the intent was to tighten the rules to make enforcement easier, as opposed to the rather ridiculous "moving into the 21st century". Early in the panel discussions, we discussed this idea some, how to avoid the RE effort, while protecting commercial programming secrets. Turns out there are multi-key decryption algorithms, where you can require M out of N keys before something can be decrypted, to prevent one person from "peeking into pandora's box". But there are other complex issues, such as verifying that the source or executable submitted is actually what plays during the event. All of it requires a lot of time and effort to pull off. Eventually something will happen, or perhaps such events will simply go away. If enough want "anything goes" anything can be organized online. We've successfully done CCTs for many years now as an example...
A post that begins with a lie is not worth a reply.
Ed (poet)
Re: ChessBase: A Gross Miscarriage of Justice in Computer Ch
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:17 pm
by hyatt
Rebel wrote:hyatt wrote:I think you grossly misunderstood the intent. Rather than your "let's accept all this copying crap" I think the intent was to tighten the rules to make enforcement easier, as opposed to the rather ridiculous "moving into the 21st century". Early in the panel discussions, we discussed this idea some, how to avoid the RE effort, while protecting commercial programming secrets. Turns out there are multi-key decryption algorithms, where you can require M out of N keys before something can be decrypted, to prevent one person from "peeking into pandora's box". But there are other complex issues, such as verifying that the source or executable submitted is actually what plays during the event. All of it requires a lot of time and effort to pull off. Eventually something will happen, or perhaps such events will simply go away. If enough want "anything goes" anything can be organized online. We've successfully done CCTs for many years now as an example...
A post that begins with a lie is not worth a reply.
Ed (poet)
That's what you and Chris have been advocating for a year now. "This is 21st century, evenyone has access to open source programs, why pick on someone that copies if they make it stronger..."
Sound familiar.
Re: ChessBase: A Gross Miscarriage of Justice in Computer Ch
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:52 am
by Rebel
hyatt wrote:Rebel wrote:hyatt wrote:I think you grossly misunderstood the intent. Rather than your "let's accept all this copying crap" I think the intent was to tighten the rules to make enforcement easier, as opposed to the rather ridiculous "moving into the 21st century". Early in the panel discussions, we discussed this idea some, how to avoid the RE effort, while protecting commercial programming secrets. Turns out there are multi-key decryption algorithms, where you can require M out of N keys before something can be decrypted, to prevent one person from "peeking into pandora's box". But there are other complex issues, such as verifying that the source or executable submitted is actually what plays during the event. All of it requires a lot of time and effort to pull off. Eventually something will happen, or perhaps such events will simply go away. If enough want "anything goes" anything can be organized online. We've successfully done CCTs for many years now as an example...
A post that begins with a lie is not worth a reply.
Ed (poet)
That's what you and Chris have been advocating for a year now. "
This is 21st century, evenyone has access to open source programs, why pick on someone that copies if they make it stronger..."
Sound familiar.
http://www.top-5000.nl/clone.htm
http://74.220.23.57/forum/viewtopic.php?p=453616#453616
http://74.220.23.57/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42916
http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... ?tid=24553
Liar, liar, pants on fire.
Re: ChessBase: A Gross Miscarriage of Justice in Computer Ch
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:22 pm
by hyatt
Rebel wrote:hyatt wrote:Rebel wrote:hyatt wrote:I think you grossly misunderstood the intent. Rather than your "let's accept all this copying crap" I think the intent was to tighten the rules to make enforcement easier, as opposed to the rather ridiculous "moving into the 21st century". Early in the panel discussions, we discussed this idea some, how to avoid the RE effort, while protecting commercial programming secrets. Turns out there are multi-key decryption algorithms, where you can require M out of N keys before something can be decrypted, to prevent one person from "peeking into pandora's box". But there are other complex issues, such as verifying that the source or executable submitted is actually what plays during the event. All of it requires a lot of time and effort to pull off. Eventually something will happen, or perhaps such events will simply go away. If enough want "anything goes" anything can be organized online. We've successfully done CCTs for many years now as an example...
A post that begins with a lie is not worth a reply.
Ed (poet)
That's what you and Chris have been advocating for a year now. "
This is 21st century, evenyone has access to open source programs, why pick on someone that copies if they make it stronger..."
Sound familiar.
http://www.top-5000.nl/clone.htm
http://74.220.23.57/forum/viewtopic.php?p=453616#453616
http://74.220.23.57/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42916
http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... ?tid=24553
Liar, liar, pants on fire.
Don't like your statements presented in public, eh?