SedatChess
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Breaking News (22.08.2024):
Ladies and Gentlemen (via latest entries) again and again the standing are
Changed..yes both Top books performed very good...especially Star OrgZ!!
Note that (about Star OrgZ) its almost all lines are belonging OrgZ's books!
And how nice to see already (in Champion rankings) Mr. Tanick Ramz too...
Sure if I played some role/influence regarding over..then how happy I am..)
Where Titan Cevdet based / tuned to prefer Mr. Cevdet's latest book series!
Note also that soon as possible current championship is going to be ended,
But before...I hope to test all the high-rated books each other as well..and
Let's see what will be the final standings..wishing best of luck to all players..
B/N XXXIV Champion: Star OrgZ - Congratulations to Tanick Ramz (OrgZ)!
FOR LATEST STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-34
Greetings )
Ladies and Gentlemen (via latest entries) again and again the standing are
Changed..yes both Top books performed very good...especially Star OrgZ!!
Note that (about Star OrgZ) its almost all lines are belonging OrgZ's books!
And how nice to see already (in Champion rankings) Mr. Tanick Ramz too...
Sure if I played some role/influence regarding over..then how happy I am..)
Where Titan Cevdet based / tuned to prefer Mr. Cevdet's latest book series!
Note also that soon as possible current championship is going to be ended,
But before...I hope to test all the high-rated books each other as well..and
Let's see what will be the final standings..wishing best of luck to all players..
B/N XXXIV Champion: Star OrgZ - Congratulations to Tanick Ramz (OrgZ)!
FOR LATEST STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-34
Greetings )
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UPDATE
One more entry (Titans 2024) again one of most successful books so far !!
Except that with over than 54% win. perc. plus draw ratio is very low too: 89%
As usual, it's my work, tuned to prefer many Champ books of 2024, such as:
DON, Esculapio, HCan, OPTIMUS etc.
In other words,
Titans 2024 is serious candidate to be as next NUMBER ONE / CHAMPION:
One more entry (Titans 2024) again one of most successful books so far !!
Except that with over than 54% win. perc. plus draw ratio is very low too: 89%
As usual, it's my work, tuned to prefer many Champ books of 2024, such as:
DON, Esculapio, HCan, OPTIMUS etc.
In other words,
Titans 2024 is serious candidate to be as next NUMBER ONE / CHAMPION:
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Rank Name Elo +/- Games Score Draw
0 Titans 2024 29 8 716 54.1% 89.2%
1 ICCF 0 13 72 50.0% 97.2%
2 Oliprog P23 -10 13 72 48.6% 97.2%
3 SSDF -24 24 73 46.6% 90.4%
4 CEDR -24 20 72 46.5% 93.1%
5 Woblis -25 32 70 46.4% 84.3%
6 SCCT -25 21 70 46.4% 92.9%
7 CCRL -29 26 73 45.9% 89.0%
8 TCEC -34 28 71 45.1% 87.3%
9 Oliprog others -39 29 72 44.4% 86.1%
10 CEGT -80 38 71 38.7% 74.6%
716 of 1000 games finished.
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UPDATE 2
Several new entries are submitted:
Dara Mini (by Mrs Alisyadara)
Storm (by Mr. Ian Hurnavich)
Plus my derivatives as well...
And here are the official standings:
Current XXXIV's Champ: Titans 2024 - Congrats to Angel, Hamdullah, Roger, Vasid!
Note: Registrations are already closed.. and as next:
The Top (high-rated) books will be played each other...
GOOD LUCK )
Several new entries are submitted:
Dara Mini (by Mrs Alisyadara)
Storm (by Mr. Ian Hurnavich)
Plus my derivatives as well...
And here are the official standings:
Current XXXIV's Champ: Titans 2024 - Congrats to Angel, Hamdullah, Roger, Vasid!
Note: Registrations are already closed.. and as next:
The Top (high-rated) books will be played each other...
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Rank Name Elo + - games score oppo. draws
1 Titans 2024 3814 4 4 1000 54% 3791 89%
2 Star OrgZ 3813 4 4 1000 54% 3791 89%
3 Titan Skynet 3812 4 4 1000 54% 3791 90%
4 Titans DESU 3811 4 4 1000 54% 3791 91%
5 No Book X 3810 4 4 1000 53% 3791 90%
6 Titan Cevdet 3809 4 5 1000 53% 3791 90%
7 Titan HCAN 3808 4 5 1000 53% 3791 92%
8 Titan Hurna 3807 4 5 1000 53% 3791 92%
9 XXXII Top 3807 4 5 1000 53% 3791 92%
10 Yoruba 070824 3806 4 5 1000 53% 3791 92%
11 XXIII Top 3805 4 5 1000 52% 3791 92%
12 Oliprog P23 3805 3 3 2600 51% 3799 94%
13 XXXIII Top 3803 5 5 1000 52% 3791 95%
14 Perfect 2024w 3803 5 5 1000 52% 3791 94%
15 Mini Dara 3802 5 5 1000 52% 3791 92%
16 Storm 3800 5 5 1000 52% 3791 93%
17 SCCT 3800 3 3 2600 50% 3799 94%
18 CEDR 3800 3 3 2600 50% 3799 93%
19 SSDF 3800 3 3 2600 50% 3799 93%
20 ICCF 3797 3 3 2600 50% 3799 93%
21 Hurnavich 3796 5 5 1000 51% 3791 92%
22 CCRL 3785 3 3 2600 48% 3800 90%
23 Oliprog others 3785 3 3 2600 47% 3800 91%
24 CEGT 3780 3 3 2600 47% 3800 88%
25 Woblis 3779 3 3 2600 46% 3800 88%
26 TCEC 3778 3 3 2600 46% 3800 87%
27 SPCC 3762 4 4 1000 44% 3791 84%
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Breaking News (22.08.2024):
1st of all, the competition is over.. congratulations and many thanks too all!
Yes, chess friends actually (via current tourney), my goal was to test mainly
Players, which prefer to play many various openings...and in the beginning..
I started testing plenty of books, which preferred various opening lines...but
As you may noticed or not..situation was not acceptable (by my side) due to
Since 2007: I don't allow my books to be Champs..once is enough..so later I
Included other ones too, which prefer to play mainly the strongest trend lines!
On other hand, this is nothing new, a similar record is happened in XXXVII too:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... book-cs-37
E.g on those old times, SCCT book is played even via 10 Elo weaker engine!
And it seems my non-tuned deep openings can be performed worse only vs
Strong Trend hand-tuned deep books..if not...I have to use weaker engine/s..
And just a few words about current Number One (Titans 2024): Born to Win!
It's based/tuned to prefer many Champions of 2024...so no BIG surprise that
Titans 2024's great lines are successful not only now..e.g proved many times
In previous tours, sure OrgZ, Skynet plus many other ones are so strong too!
Meanwhile, No Book X is performed very good too!...and a few more details:
NoBook X is used a ultra-micro book, just to prefer (the lines) e4, d4, Nf3, c4
But via Black colors, it was out of book, I mean I did not include any opening..
Be aware too, as usually, it seems all stable..no any game to be lost on time!
BN XXXIV Champion: Titans 2024 - Congrats to Angel, Hamdullah, Roger, Vasid!
FOR FINAL STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-34
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/aooBGCZZ#KGEz0DFiQ ... E77xGyaiEQ
For anyone missed, a tour with non-hand tuned deep opening lines:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... deep-books
Have fun,
Sedat
1st of all, the competition is over.. congratulations and many thanks too all!
Yes, chess friends actually (via current tourney), my goal was to test mainly
Players, which prefer to play many various openings...and in the beginning..
I started testing plenty of books, which preferred various opening lines...but
As you may noticed or not..situation was not acceptable (by my side) due to
Since 2007: I don't allow my books to be Champs..once is enough..so later I
Included other ones too, which prefer to play mainly the strongest trend lines!
On other hand, this is nothing new, a similar record is happened in XXXVII too:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... book-cs-37
E.g on those old times, SCCT book is played even via 10 Elo weaker engine!
And it seems my non-tuned deep openings can be performed worse only vs
Strong Trend hand-tuned deep books..if not...I have to use weaker engine/s..
And just a few words about current Number One (Titans 2024): Born to Win!
It's based/tuned to prefer many Champions of 2024...so no BIG surprise that
Titans 2024's great lines are successful not only now..e.g proved many times
In previous tours, sure OrgZ, Skynet plus many other ones are so strong too!
Meanwhile, No Book X is performed very good too!...and a few more details:
NoBook X is used a ultra-micro book, just to prefer (the lines) e4, d4, Nf3, c4
But via Black colors, it was out of book, I mean I did not include any opening..
Be aware too, as usually, it seems all stable..no any game to be lost on time!
BN XXXIV Champion: Titans 2024 - Congrats to Angel, Hamdullah, Roger, Vasid!
FOR FINAL STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-34
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/aooBGCZZ#KGEz0DFiQ ... E77xGyaiEQ
For anyone missed, a tour with non-hand tuned deep opening lines:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... deep-books
Have fun,
Sedat
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Thanks for the tour

Sedat Canbaz wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:07 pm Breaking News (22.08.2024):
1st of all, the competition is over.. congratulations and many thanks too all!
Yes, chess friends actually (via current tourney), my goal was to test mainly
Players, which prefer to play many various openings...and in the beginning..
I started testing plenty of books, which preferred various opening lines...but
As you may noticed or not..situation was not acceptable (by my side) due to
Since 2007: I don't allow my books to be Champs..once is enough..so later I
Included other ones too, which prefer to play mainly the strongest trend lines!
On other hand, this is nothing new, a similar record is happened in XXXVII too:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... book-cs-37
E.g on those old times, SCCT book is played even via 10 Elo weaker engine!
And it seems my non-tuned deep openings can be performed worse only vs
Strong Trend hand-tuned deep books..if not...I have to use weaker engine/s..
And just a few words about current Number One (Titans 2024): Born to Win!
It's based/tuned to prefer many Champions of 2024...so no BIG surprise that
Titans 2024's great lines are successful not only now..e.g proved many times
In previous tours, sure OrgZ, Skynet plus many other ones are so strong too!
Meanwhile, No Book X is performed very good too!...and a few more details:
NoBook X is used a ultra-micro book, just to prefer (the lines) e4, d4, Nf3, c4
But via Black colors, it was out of book, I mean I did not include any opening..
Be aware too, as usually, it seems all stable..no any game to be lost on time!
BN XXXIV Champion: Titans 2024 - Congrats to Angel, Hamdullah, Roger, Vasid!
FOR FINAL STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-34
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/aooBGCZZ#KGEz0DFiQ ... E77xGyaiEQ
For anyone missed, a tour with non-hand tuned deep opening lines:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... deep-books
Have fun,
Sedat
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You are welcome

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Thank you very much, Sedat.


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My pleasure Homayoun )
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Breaking News (28.08.2024):
1st of all, this tour is organizing In the Name of all Book Champions :
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... ok-players
Yes..another exciting CS and as books: Number Ones from Past to Present!
E.g so far, all of the opening lines are belonging between 2006 - 2010 years
That means more than 15 years ago..yes in those old good times, no doubt
That the current players were as beast,with amazing performances..actually
Even nowadays, some of theirs strong opening lines are still not dead at all !!
Anyhow, after more newer entries, the standing are expecting to be changed..
As we know, the Bows, Swords etc has zero chances vs Guns, Drones, right?
Btw, for the moment.. ongoing competition was battled via Swords, Blows... )
However, just only for fun...and I'm very pleased to organize this great event!
But I admit too..a lot of hard work required to create + run these kind of tours!
Be aware too, in the next days, weeks more Champions books will be played..
Mostly of them will be my job, because as books I test only up to 1 MB ones!
Ok, dear chess friends, that's all for now.. more information soon as possible )
Current Book Leader: Perfect 16 - Congrats to myself again !) By the way,
Is this all surprise, luck? of course not..I still remember those old days Results
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... tober-2009
About the ideas, efforts, work..which I spent..In short, Success is no Accident!
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Rank Name Elo + - games score oppo. draws
1 Perfect 16 3790 10 11 650 56% 3749 72%
2 Experimental 3782 11 11 650 55% 3749 81%
3 My Book 3774 11 11 650 54% 3750 79%
4 Yograj 3768 11 11 650 53% 3751 75%
5 Rybka II 3751 11 11 650 50% 3752 80%
6 Hurricane 3749 11 11 650 49% 3752 81%
7 CompMaster 3747 11 11 650 49% 3752 75%
8 OmPrakash 3742 11 11 650 48% 3753 76%
9 Perfect 13x 3740 11 11 650 48% 3753 79%
10 Ultra-Blitz 3739 11 11 650 48% 3753 74%
11 Magnificent 3738 11 11 650 48% 3753 79%
12 Rybka III 3737 11 11 650 48% 3753 82%
13 Xmas2640 3736 11 11 650 47% 3753 82%
14 Perfect 13 3731 11 11 650 47% 3753 78%
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-35
Best,
Sedat
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Re: SedatChess
UPDATE
Well, once my father (in-law) is used to say as:
The gun was invented, the bravery was ruined
In other words, I say over (with optimal cond.):
The NNUE was invented, the FUN was ruined
On other hand,
This saying can be useful..especially since NNUE,
The chess is became better (in strength), but in
Same time unfortunately became so boring too..sure
No any idea, but I suppose that the creator of 'chess'
Would be surprised much..that (mainly since 2020),
Many of the eng games are started to play/gain with
Previous trained data...and meanwhile, I wonder too,
Why for humans is not allowed with trained/previous
Own Data too (for better quality games) ?) sure not as
Good idea to gain in fast time controls..because no time,
I assume that many will forfeit on time ) but at least
Sounds not so so bad such as to gain at slower TC e.g:
At 90m+30s, 40/120 etc time controls..and just in case,
I mean that humans will have plenty of time to check..)
Who knows? maybe GMs future's is planning to be so ?)
Ok my friends, let's back to our actual Number Ones CS )
To be more clear:
Via Raubfish SC (sure at Bullet TC) FIN is not ruined!
As we see 78% draw ratio... something like as NON-NN
Yes..there are plenty of drawish Top engines (NON NN),
Where they produce even more draws (than Raubfish NN)
Sure as main difference is that they are much weaker...
Note also that,
Some book vers are merged in one name..as reason,
Simply due to not enough games (per book version)
But Experimental, Rybka, Perfect, Xmas etc series are
100% based/tuned to prefer theirs original openings!
About Rybka II (based on 2006 openings by Mr J. Noomen),
This great one was never became Champ in official tours,
But according to my beta testings (sure I refer in the past),
Rybka II book was as Best/Number One...with outstanding
Performance..so I realized Rybka II to be created and tested!
Be aware of that Rybka II (2006) and Rybka III (2008) are not
Based on same lines..e.g their openings different each other..
So it's quite normal that theirs performances are not same!
Just I'd like to point also that,
Due to no much free time.. and as far as possible:
Only Number Ones/Winners with 1000+ games will be as
Next book players, because there are many Champ titles,
Bıt in reality, they are not as Winners ..or they have not
Enough played games.. sorry here..but anyhow, very likely
Later (in next days/weeks) registrations will be opened..
So Champions Authors will be free to submit small books!
Sure up to 1 MB uncompressed in size...Btw, you know:
The powerful moves are not in BIG sizes...but in lines!
Proved and guaranteed...e.g DON Hercules, Optimus plus
Perfect 16, Titans 2024 etc are one of them for sure !!
That's all for now..see you later and please stay tuned...
Greetings )
Well, once my father (in-law) is used to say as:
The gun was invented, the bravery was ruined
In other words, I say over (with optimal cond.):
The NNUE was invented, the FUN was ruined
On other hand,
This saying can be useful..especially since NNUE,
The chess is became better (in strength), but in
Same time unfortunately became so boring too..sure
No any idea, but I suppose that the creator of 'chess'
Would be surprised much..that (mainly since 2020),
Many of the eng games are started to play/gain with
Previous trained data...and meanwhile, I wonder too,
Why for humans is not allowed with trained/previous
Own Data too (for better quality games) ?) sure not as
Good idea to gain in fast time controls..because no time,
I assume that many will forfeit on time ) but at least
Sounds not so so bad such as to gain at slower TC e.g:
At 90m+30s, 40/120 etc time controls..and just in case,
I mean that humans will have plenty of time to check..)
Who knows? maybe GMs future's is planning to be so ?)
Ok my friends, let's back to our actual Number Ones CS )
To be more clear:
Via Raubfish SC (sure at Bullet TC) FIN is not ruined!
As we see 78% draw ratio... something like as NON-NN
Yes..there are plenty of drawish Top engines (NON NN),
Where they produce even more draws (than Raubfish NN)
Sure as main difference is that they are much weaker...
Note also that,
Some book vers are merged in one name..as reason,
Simply due to not enough games (per book version)
But Experimental, Rybka, Perfect, Xmas etc series are
100% based/tuned to prefer theirs original openings!
About Rybka II (based on 2006 openings by Mr J. Noomen),
This great one was never became Champ in official tours,
But according to my beta testings (sure I refer in the past),
Rybka II book was as Best/Number One...with outstanding
Performance..so I realized Rybka II to be created and tested!
Be aware of that Rybka II (2006) and Rybka III (2008) are not
Based on same lines..e.g their openings different each other..
So it's quite normal that theirs performances are not same!
Just I'd like to point also that,
Due to no much free time.. and as far as possible:
Only Number Ones/Winners with 1000+ games will be as
Next book players, because there are many Champ titles,
Bıt in reality, they are not as Winners ..or they have not
Enough played games.. sorry here..but anyhow, very likely
Later (in next days/weeks) registrations will be opened..
So Champions Authors will be free to submit small books!
Sure up to 1 MB uncompressed in size...Btw, you know:
The powerful moves are not in BIG sizes...but in lines!
Proved and guaranteed...e.g DON Hercules, Optimus plus
Perfect 16, Titans 2024 etc are one of them for sure !!
That's all for now..see you later and please stay tuned...
Greetings )