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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 3:46 pm
by deeds
When a TD tried to test which engine has the best learning feature :

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But there are tons of problems :
- engines came with different nets
- engine's releases weren't up to date on the same date
- engines came with different experience files
- experience files had different experience rate for each of the 60 openings
- each engine didn't play min. 500 games/opening
- etc.


So it is unclear whether the engine won because of its newer net/release or its better learning feature or its more accurate experience data. :lol:

ps : same problems here too.

Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 5:09 pm
by deeds
When a TD tried to measure dictionaries/databases :

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But there are tons of problems :
- evaluations by a different engine than the one that evaluated the experience data => merged EXP file
- disrespect for pawn-based and wdl-based engine's evaluations
- disrespect for pawn-based and wdl-based experience data
- disrespect for nnue and non-nnue experience data
- experience files had different experience rate for each of main openings of books
- EXP files added to a tourney but set to training mode
- etc.


So it is unclear whether the player won because of its file or its engine or its mode :lol:

ps : same problems here too.

Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:14 am
by sarona
deeds wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:29 pm
sarona wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 3:22 pm ...
I actually wrote that post in order to see if I could get a rise out of him
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That post was pure sarcasm in order to provoke a reaction.
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It's going to be hard to get him to react if he ignores you :
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I am so heartbroken he did that. :lol: :lol: :P

Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 8:38 am
by deeds
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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 8:42 am
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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 8:45 am
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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 11:51 am
by deeds
Everyone remembers when Sedat created a poor book from games containing the moves of the opening lists (=GUI's moves) => arbitrarily attributed it to someone else => published his bad results :
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Lastly, a Sedat supporter does the same thing :
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Hurnavich wrote: @Anton101 I have not given you any books that have my name on them that is on you web page.Why have you books in my name if the books are poor then that reflects on myself when these are not my books!!!! Remove them please,Or rename them for what they are.

The Hurnavich 210124 is NOT the book that played in recent sedat tour and this is a fake dated book i not posted any books of that date.
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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 7:35 pm
by Anton101
Some books (like this one) are sent to me through the "private", actually I haven't even tried it, I don't have that much free time, Hurnavich's books are good books.

I have more books and I'll release in the next days.

On the other hand, I have a good relationship with Sedat and many others.

Merry Xmas Deeds.

Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 8:58 pm
by deeds
When he apologized for failing in his duty to instantly ban a victim of the plagues of the chess community :
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And now he himself is a victim of the same plagues of the chess community. :lol:

Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 9:52 pm
by botunnet
They are still few plagues of the chess community :
- Alexchess has a habit of renaming to ProteusSF the source codes of engines like brainlearn, stockfishmz, sugar, etc.
- Anton101 has a habit of merging EXP files from different engines and who still believes he is in private with Telegram, the application most monitored by the authorities
- Sedat has a habit of assigning to others each poor BIN book he created himself and whose forums where he is active are closing one after the other
- Cubail has a habit of talking about novelties for merged EXP files and who would share the moon if he could upload it to the internet
- apocalypse has a habit of renaming to SF PRO engines like sugar, stockfishmz, hypnos, eman, etc

It will come as no surprise that these people are friends.