SedatChess

[ZamChess]

Dear Sedat, I'm really sorry for your decision, but I understand you.

I wish you all the best and your family.
May Allah guard you.

[IbaiBuR]

Yeah Sedat, keep insulting... I am also here with real name, you can see it in my profile: Ibai Burgos

I said that I was going to reply if you said something harmful about me.

Indeed, there are such ignorant idiots here, like you.

You have been testing engines for more than 20 years and you have no clue about how learning engines work. You are unable to learn because you are too old, I understand it, dont worry, your brain is too slow.

Talking with you is so so tiring, like talking with a wall, you always need to be right and when you dont know what to say you just say: BLA BLA BLA, HoLiDaY mOdE...
Come on...

I tried to help you-> You reply in a hostile, rude way
I tried to be friendly with you-> You insult me after I stop replying

Do you have any mental illness which affects your personality or something?


Until you stop lying and saying bullshit I am going to keep replying. You decide, leave me in peace and I leave you in peace.

[deeds]

Opening books (20 years ahead) VS Experience files (20 years late) :
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bGahP4HSAl0

[Sedat Canbaz]

Dear Sedat, I'm really sorry for your decision, but I understand you.

I wish you all the best and your family.
May Allah guard you.

Dear ZamChess,

Many thanks for your kind words and for your support!

Yes, my chess friend, I think that for best solution:
I hope to be NOT as frequent member on public chess forums!
Btw, I hope also that there will be no BAN by OpenChess Mods
You may know...for similar words: I was banned on Outskirts

On other hand,
You may know or not.. actually all these attacks are born,
E.g after when I organized the 1st SCCT Duel - Book vs Exp
And as we see, they are continuing with same TEMPO..sad..
These 'clever' guys are trying to harass my work, very cheap
Actions..but if we check theirs EXP's price: not so cheap!

And another very funny JOKE is that,
They can try to say such as SCCT is NOT 'valid' etc.
Even these BIG brains can try to say other bullshit such as
I'm experienced on only book tours etc. BTW, it's clear that
How theirs BIG brains work..I mean even they have no clue
About what is going on SedatChess site!

Yes..they are trying and trying over the past years...
But without any success.. because in front of them:
There is a very stable WALL!
A WALL based on enormous BIG efforts and all for free!

As Final Words,
I've tried to give them some useful lessons...
If they will will follow.. will be good..if not ..will be bad!
Anyhow, I hardly doubt that they will change their minds!
And very likely they will continue as before.. claiming as
Best experts and will try to fool the people (as before...)
Sure if I've tried to do my best...to help...but sometimes
Not all in my hands, because the idiots are hopeless!


Best,
Sedat

[IbaiBuR]

I have never ever seen in my life someone as egotistical as you Sedat, it is incredible hahahahaha.

You treat people like if you were a god and you were superior, then you call them idiots, it is so so funny.

Your EGO is higher than the Burj Khalifa. Who do you really think you are lol? Do you really think that you are so important that everyone is trying to harass you and your work? Do you really care that much about an opinion from a 19 years old guy?

You are so mentally weak

Come on...

[Sedat Canbaz]

Hello Chess Friends,

Here is another new PROOF about who is as BIG liar !!

--------------------------------------------------------
Acorrding to IbaiBuR member, where he claims that,
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3600&start=100

He used to play his engines under these conditions:

Regarding the games, you can find them here: https://urls.chessnibble.com/4Hza

General settings for the engines: 2 threads, 512 MB hash
Software used: cutechess-cli
Time Control: 1 min + 1 sec increment
CPU: Intel Xeon Cascadelake Processor @2.4 GHz
RAM: 6 GiB

Code: Select all

cutechess-cli -event "Eman's Learning" -site %computername% -engine conf="Eman1" -engine conf="ShashChess1" -engine conf="BrainLearn1" -tournament gauntlet -each tc=60+1 -maxmoves 250 -draw movenumber=40 movecount=5 score=0 -concurrency 1 -rounds 250 -games 2  -openings file=C:\LearningFarm\OpeningsToLearn\a60_e7e6.pgn format=pgn order=sequential policy=round -repeat 2  -recover -tb C:\LearningFarm\Work\syzygy -tbpieces 5 -pgnout C:\LearningFarm\Games\a60_Learned.pgn -ratinginterval 10

Source:
https://blog.chessnibble.com/learning-s ... d-results/
-------------------------------------------------------------
And now please see carefully what is going on:

Based on IbaiBuR's database:
Test Start date: 07.03.2023
Test End Date: 12.05.2023
Total Games: 31320
TC 1m+1s = av. 226 sec (per game)

And after checking more closely IbaiBuR's data:
In 66 full days, we see as total 31320 games
That means, he produced (per day): 475 games
Hehe... this man seems to as MIRACLE .. LOL..
And definitely IbaiBuR have to as Candidate in
Guinness records...LOL..

This time I am very serious,
In reality, this is simply just impossible!
Even if we run NON-STOP, I mean on same PC
Exc. these number games can be produced via
Concurrent matches, but definitely NOT via
Concurrent games: 1
Because according to my calculations: av. 382 games
Can be produced (per day), sure I am referring
If we use as TC 1m+1s and Concurrency games: 1

In other words,
It seems that IbaiBuR member is not HONEST at all
Where he tried to fool us many times via saying
SCCT is not valid, because due to my tours are
Played via Concurrent games.ok..what about IbaiBuR?
If still not clear, I strongly believe in that
IbaiBuR is NOT used as Concurrent games: 1
Btw, I'm pretty sure also in that, this liar guy will
Be NOT able to read properly (as before), because he is
So stupid that I am tired to correct his mistakes...and
Very likely he will write TONS of bıllshit as before..
But no so BIG problem..and I can live with that...

After all,
I'm very happy again really, as least I'm not as liar..
As I stated before, my work is not perfect but if nothing else
In my work is all clear... and I never tried to fool others!
Yes... that's the difference between Me and Chameleons team!

But this is also true that,
IbaiBuR member's lies did NOT live so long !!
And as usual, at least (for my side):
The GOOD is managed to win over the BAD!

Ok, that's all...now I can take a DEEP breath )

Thanks for reading!

Best,
Sedat


Meanwhile, (a small note to this IbaiBuR member)
The way, which I work...you can not imagine! and
If you are really at age 19, I hardly doubt..but let's say yes..
There are a LOT of things to LEARN...for now, in my eyes,
You are not even as 'apprentice' in Engine testings!! and now
Take a pencil and write and remember that (as Lesson 1):
1st of all, Learn to be HONEST.. and later we can talk...
Hope helps..

[deeds]

Another evidence that Sedat is an unenlighted daily tester :

IbaiBuR doesn't need to set concurrency > 1 because he simply created a learning farm. So he trained several openings at the time by setting concurrency = 1 on each Cutechess instance. Each learning engine (eman1, eman2, etc) has its own experience file (eman1.exp, eman2.exp, etc.) so there is no concurrent access to an only one eman.exp

Oops

[Sedat Canbaz]

Hehe... I catched you !!
Deeds = IbaiBuR ?

Or maybe,
You are as another advocate of other member...LOL..
You have so much info about his conditions..LOL..

Well, this is my last replay about this issue,
Because, what you are claim...it's NONSENSE!

Anyhow, I will try to explain once more..
But not for you...because you are as BUGGY engine!
Because as I said before,
You are not capable to learn..sad really...!

In other words,
In 66 full days, no way to produce 31.320 games
Sure I mean if we run 1m+1s, Concurrent games: 1
Because, his database's overall average move length : 53

If still not so clear,
In 66 NON-STOP days, via 1m+1s, Concurrent: 1
Minus plus 25.000 games can be produced...

This is other question of course, in 66 days..
IbaiBuR's hardware was all time active ?
I hardly doubt...if count some days are not..
Very likely in 66 days,
20.000 games can be produced...sure I am
Talking for my side...

But definitely,
No way to produce close to 31.320 games

If still not so clear,
Prove that I am wrong.. but next time, instead of comments,
Come with real facts

[IbaiBuR]

Hello Chess Friends,

Here is another new PROOF about who is as BIG liar !!

--------------------------------------------------------
Acorrding to IbaiBuR member, where he claims that,
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3600&start=100

He used to play his engines under these conditions:

Regarding the games, you can find them here: https://urls.chessnibble.com/4Hza

General settings for the engines: 2 threads, 512 MB hash
Software used: cutechess-cli
Time Control: 1 min + 1 sec increment
CPU: Intel Xeon Cascadelake Processor @2.4 GHz
RAM: 6 GiB

Code: Select all

cutechess-cli -event "Eman's Learning" -site %computername% -engine conf="Eman1" -engine conf="ShashChess1" -engine conf="BrainLearn1" -tournament gauntlet -each tc=60+1 -maxmoves 250 -draw movenumber=40 movecount=5 score=0 -concurrency 1 -rounds 250 -games 2  -openings file=C:\LearningFarm\OpeningsToLearn\a60_e7e6.pgn format=pgn order=sequential policy=round -repeat 2  -recover -tb C:\LearningFarm\Work\syzygy -tbpieces 5 -pgnout C:\LearningFarm\Games\a60_Learned.pgn -ratinginterval 10

Source:
https://blog.chessnibble.com/learning-s ... d-results/
-------------------------------------------------------------
And now please see carefully what is going on:

Based on IbaiBuR's database:
Test Start date: 07.03.2023
Test End Date: 12.05.2023
Total Games: 31320
TC 1m+1s = av. 226 sec (per game)

And after checking more closely IbaiBuR's data:
In 66 full days, we see as total 31320 games
That means, he produced (per day): 475 games
Hehe... this man seems to as MIRACLE .. LOL..
And definitely IbaiBuR have to as Candidate in
Guinness records...LOL..

This time I am very serious,
In reality, this is simply just impossible!
Even if we run NON-STOP, I mean on same PC
Exc. these number games can be produced via
Concurrent matches, but definitely NOT via
Concurrent games: 1
Because according to my calculations: av. 382 games
Can be produced (per day), sure I am referring
If we use as TC 1m+1s and Concurrency games: 1

In other words,
It seems that IbaiBuR member is not HONEST at all
Where he tried to fool us many times via saying
SCCT is not valid, because due to my tours are
Played via Concurrent games.ok..what about IbaiBuR?
If still not clear, I strongly believe in that
IbaiBuR is NOT used as Concurrent games: 1
Btw, I'm pretty sure also in that, this liar guy will
Be NOT able to read properly (as before), because he is
So stupid that I am tired to correct his mistakes...and
Very likely he will write TONS of bıllshit as before..
But no so BIG problem..and I can live with that...

After all,
I'm very happy again really, as least I'm not as liar..
As I stated before, my work is not perfect but if nothing else
In my work is all clear... and I never tried to fool others!
Yes... that's the difference between Me and Chameleons team!

But this is also true that,
IbaiBuR member's lies did NOT live so long !!
And as usual, at least (for my side):
The GOOD is managed to win over the BAD!

Ok, that's all...now I can take a DEEP breath )

Thanks for reading!

Best,
Sedat


Meanwhile, (a small note to this IbaiBuR member)
The way, which I work...you can not imagine! and
If you are really at age 19, I hardly doubt..but let's say yes..
There are a LOT of things to LEARN...for now, in my eyes,
You are not even as 'apprentice' in Engine testings!! and now
Take a pencil and write and remember that (as Lesson 1):
1st of all, Learn to be HONEST.. and later we can talk...
Hope helps..

And once again, as expected, Sedat shows his stupidity and ignorance in the field of learning engines

You try and try and with each try you are lying more and more! For sure, you need to be candidate for the stupidest, most idiot, egotistical and ignorant old man alive!

Since you have no clue of how learning engines work, what is the internal structure of the experience files and how we train them, you shouldnt really continue with this topic, you keep getting humilliated!

Do you see the part of code you pasted from the cutechess-cli script I use to train engine? What is the concurrency? Oh, yeah, IT'S 1. If you havent event read the full blog post, or if you have read it and you dont understand it (most likely, because you are really dumb), dont comment on it! LIAR!

As DeeDs has explained, I used the LearningFarm method to train the experience files. What does it consist of? Well, firstly, I have 2 hosts available, not just 1 machine, same specs, Intel Xeon Cascadelake Processor(only 6c/6t, no HT available), 6 GiB of RAM. In each host, I train 2 openings, that means 4 openings in total are trained combining the two hosts (I clarify this since I know math is difficult for an old man with an slow brain). Each instance of cutechess-cli is launched with CONCURRENCY 1 as you can see in the script I have posted in the blog and that you shared. I launch 4 instances then, 1 per opening, but again, each instance is running with CONCURRENCY 1. Do you understand this Sedat? It is not 1 instance with concurrency 4, it is 4 instances with CONCURRENCY 1, it is not the same, PLEASE USE GLASSES AND LEARN TO READ, dumbass. In this way, the experience files are only read by 1 instance of Eman and the experience data doesnt get corrupted, the contrary to your useless and not valid tests.

I have never tried to fool anyone my settings are clear and my job is clear, if you are unable to understand it it is not my issue but yours, I cant imagine how low your IQ is if you cant understand this.

So returning, 4 instances, with concurrency 1, and taking in account I get on average 120 games/ instance per day, if we multiply it by 4 = 480

Oh, thats very close to what you say->475

It is also not my problem that you only have 1 machine and cant do this kinds of things, imagine wasting such big amount of money on a Dual Threadripper system to do what? 100 games tests with 2 engines and stupid not valid Duels.

So please, Sedat, stop LYING! At some point you should start to learn that you are not always right! If you dont believe I am 19 years old, check this: https://ratings.fide.com/profile/54596777 STUPID! You dont even know to make a simple search with google!

Your lies did live less than 2 hours hahahaha, thanks for exposing again how ignorant you are in this field, you are really showing 0 knowledge. 20+ years testing engines for nothing basically, only to get harmed by a single opinion from a 19 year old guy and to start searching and searching for something to destroy my work, but you CANT, because you are not even close to understanding it, return to school it will be good for you!

Bye bye, STUPID LIAR

[deeds]

Hehe... I catched you !!
Deeds = IbaiBuR ?

Or maybe,
You are as another advocate of other member...LOL..
You have so much info about his conditions..LOL..

No need advocate, Sedat, simply, look at the author of the "how to create a learning farm" topic, it was me, that's why i know how IbaiBuR did.

In other words,
In 66 full days, no way to produce 31.320 games
Sure I mean if we run 1m+1s, Concurrent games: 1
Because, his database's overall average move length : 53

If still not so clear,
In 66 NON-STOP days, via 1m+1s, Concurrent: 1
Minus plus 25.000 games can be produced...

But definitely,
No way to produce close to 31.320 games

IbaiBuR created a learning farm with several cutechess instances so it produces several games at the time.
And each engine of each cutechess instance has its own experience file, that's why concurrency = 1.