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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:20 am
by Sedat Canbaz
deeds wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 8:51 am We don't measure...
Hehe.. finely, you learned something from Me.. via saying: We

A good step via saying 'We', but not enough..there is a long way to go..!
But be sure no any 'guarantee' since you've lost your prestige for sure !!
Sometimes I wonder: how many fake accounts you have: 5 or 10 or more ?

And final words, remember also that:
The Number of SCCT Champions are much more than your overall players!

That's why, you have to learn a lot..but I hardly doubt you have such skills..
In short, you are a simple pawn and you don't know that it's a piece of chess!

That's all

Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:42 am
by deeds
Sedat Canbaz wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:20 am
deeds wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 8:51 am We don't measure...
Hehe.. finely, you learned something from Me.. via saying: We
We = normal people so not stupid people so not you
So good luck measuring the strength of an EXP file :lol:
So good luck using Stockfish_15_1.exp with SF15.1 release :lol:

Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:12 pm
by deeds
We all know EXP files are databases but some moron wants to make a tourney between databases :
Sedat wrote: ...
You always refused your main EXP to be played in serious competitions
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

:arrow: Poor dude, he must be really desperate to pick a winner between position statistics...

Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:47 pm
by deeds
For the record.

Statements :
Sedat wrote: ...
Opening books are managed to overcome EXP files !!
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Confessions :
Sedat wrote: ...
About my experience over EXP files testings,
I have not much, but enough data regarding...
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I don't care so much in training mode / tourney mode etc.
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Et voilĂ  !

We know why most engine trainers don't send a copy of their EXP files to Sedat, why they avoid publishing the results of their training sessions, why we exchange our tools privately, why we are the only ones who know what an EXP file brings to an engine, etc.

Daily testers of books or engines aren't ready for showing to people which EXP files help the most what engines on what openings. They don't understand how living databases work. They haven't tools to add realtime learning feature to any (non-learning) engines too.

Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:27 pm
by Sedat Canbaz
deeds wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:12 pm We all know EXP files are databases but some moron wants to make a tourney between databases :
Well, my job is ending here too, as final words:

I will not fall in your low-level, so let's:
- People decide who is moron, mindless here ?!
- People decide who is good, bad, honest, liar ?!
- People decide who is opened this thread ?!

And if you going to ask my 6th strong sense:
I hardly doubt that you will be ever changed,
As fella says: the child is father of the man!

From this moment,
Far be it from Me!

May God bless you!

Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 7:10 am
by deeds
deeds wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:47 pm ...They haven't tools to add realtime learning feature to any (non-learning) engines too...
For example, this kind of tools allow this kind of experiment :
https://www.open-chess.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4145

Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:34 pm
by deeds
When we tries to explain something to Sedat, for example with this rulleeeee's post :
rulleeeee wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:40 pm SedatChess, Deeds only writes about tournaments related to experience files.
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Yes, I agree. Deeds has the best tournament and engine settings but related to experience files.

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Sedat's lunar reaction :
Sedat wrote: @ to Rulleeeee
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Why are you advertising Deeds's work here?
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please, stay far from here!
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How much commission do you get from Deeds sales ?
Otherwise, I see no point that you are advertising him..
Oh pardon, maybe Deeds = Rulleeeee ??
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:shock:


So after this IbaiBuR's post... :
IbaiBuR wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:46 pm DeeDs techniques are best techniques to train engines, believe it or not, but there is already a loooot of evidence of this...
...
...did Sedat also believe that DeeDs = IbaiBuR !? :lol:


So after this Anton101's post... :
Anton101 wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:15 pm ...
It only remains to learn how to use the tools that Deeds has left in his repository on GitHub, work on the training of the engine, and have patience, this takes time. But, it's worth it.
...
...did Sedat also believe that DeeDs = Anton101 !? :lol:

Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:43 pm
by deeds
Thank you all for warning me about this other Sedat's lie :
Sedat wrote: ...
Your ban is removed again..and now you are member in Outskirts forum..hehe ))
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This can't be true
...
Yet this is what also happened to Sedat :
Amos 4ever wrote: Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:45 am @ Sedat Canbaz

Ban removed.

Greetings
So there is no reason why it shouldn't happen to others.

Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 2:33 pm
by deeds
Thank you all for warning me about this other Sedat's lie.

When Sedat thinked he created an exact copy of my EXP files without my Eman's learning/tourney games, without the games/openings i reinforced at D40, without the experience data i manually updated, without the key position i analyzed at D70, etc :
Sedat wrote: ...
In Deeds test: Depth4 exp managed to win all His opponents (opening books)
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Under SCCT: almost all books are performed better than Depth4...
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Sedat wrote: ...
One thing more, it looks likes under SCCT conditions:
DeeDs techniques are NOT best techniques for sure !!
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And when Sedat confessed his lies above :
Sedat wrote: ...
your work is never played in SCCT
...

A little bonus, here are some examples of the disastrous SCCT conditions :
https://outskirts.altervista.org/forum/ ... ost#p66382
https://outskirts.altervista.org/forum/ ... ost#p66383
You are not dreaming, Sedat's settings are so bad that it even disrupts the engine's evaluations !

Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:14 pm
by deeds
Sedat wrote: ...
Since he is not so much experienced (maybe 3-4 years in testings)
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Image
Oops, twice as experienced :lol:

Sedat wrote: ...
Deeds target is now become more clear for sure, He tries to sell Exp
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it seems He doesn't want to gain much Euro
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Nonsense :lol: If you don't want to gain much money, you don't try to sell something.

Reminder : I discovered the Sedat's unfair behavior on July, 2022 and I opened the sales of my first EXP file on April, 2023. So what Sedat considered an attack could not have been an attempt to sell something.