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Re: opening book vs experience file

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:48 pm
by Anton101
Regards.

A.Ces.

Re: opening book vs experience file

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:10 am
by Anton101
On the other hand, let's look at it from a commercial point of view, Deeds should prove with third party test evidence (Sedat is the best and impartial), that his file is worth every penny.

Deeds' victory would confirm the commercial value of his work and not only that, a greater and better reputation.

Deeds, this is your chance boy, this is the time.

A.Ces.

Re: opening book vs experience file

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:36 am
by Sedat Canbaz
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One thing more

Yes..Deeds tried to say that I am lying...
Because I named: Book vs Experience, where he tries to say us
The right tournament name should be as
12 Books vs 1 Experience

And if the number of the books will be increased...
Then I have to change the tours name to total books number
Anything more else ??)))

Also in other Deeds comments,
He says that I run concurrent matches, where
Deeds tries to say us that it's unfair matches etc...
Let's forget about the 3rd Duel, actually
3rd Duel is played with concurrent matches too..

Ok.. if it is unfair..then what about these recent tours:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-33
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-32
I mean, in these tours too, all played with Concurrent matches
And the winners are those engines, with learning capacity!


And it seems the best way,
I have to stay far away from him...

Greetings

Re: opening book vs experience file

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 8:36 am
by botunnet
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Sedat Canbaz wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:36 pm By the way,
What about the 3rd Duel Experience vs Book ?
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-vs-exp-3

Re: opening book vs experience file

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 8:44 am
by botunnet
Anton101 wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:07 pm The only way to get out of doubt if exp file's training that Deeds claims is the way we should follow is that the Deed's experience file enters a tournament vs books (as RapTora did), Using that dev of EMAN engine that Deeds uses for training and, to keep this file without corruption of any kind, the exp file must be NOT updated during the games.
Lately, Chris already accepted Rulleeee's challenge :o
Rulleeee accepted to publish the results 8-)

Last year, Chris exp file also challenged other exp file, bigger than him :o
The results/games were published, games are still available :idea:

All people advised him to not challenge cheaters, we don't want to help them in any way, fortunately he heard us, all people are happy :!:

Re: opening book vs experience file

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:19 am
by botunnet
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Indeed if your 3rd test took place on the same unfair conditions/settings, no need to ask Chris to look at it

Re: opening book vs experience file

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:05 am
by Sedat Canbaz
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For what?
I have no shop for opening book/s
I have no shop for chess engine/s
I have no shop for any other chess item etc.
In other words, all this my job is free !!!

Btw, plus
I am not a Online player (since 2009 year)
So I have no goal for high Elo ratings...
But remember also that,
When I was as online player, I played with
User name: 'SedatChess' and I played with
Open-Formula..you understand what I mean?

Continuing...

Simply via organizing all these competitions:
I share results, produced by chess programs!
No more... no less...

And once more,
I clearly stated that StockfishMZ exp is based on
Eman's data... I realized to re-name it because the
Target was that StockfishMZ eng to use it as default..
Btw, I am free to release it with any name as I want,
Besides StockfishMZ generated own exp data over it..
So I see that here there is nothing wrong with that!

On other hand,
I see also that you tried everything about damaging
my prestige! but as usual, all without success..!!
Because, honesty is the best policy!

Re: opening book vs experience file

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2023 10:20 am
by Amos 4ever
Sedat Canbaz wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:05 am


And once more,
I clearly stated that StockfishMZ exp is based on
Eman's data... I realized to re-name it because the
Target was that StockfishMZ eng to use it as default..
Hi Sedat,
just a clarification about me..
All version 2 experience files are based on SugaR's signature including Eman.
Best regards

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Re: opening book vs experience file

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2023 11:08 am
by deeds
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This is also why (among other things) that since 2021, I have stopped sharing my experience files and that I will stop publishing my learning sessions on OpenChess.

Re: opening book vs experience file

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:28 pm
by deeds
ocf stalker wrote: All version 2 experience files are based on SugaR's signature including Eman.
Wrong !

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