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They told me that Sedat's eyes should have problems to read EXP's filesizes. As i already gave several times these values on my website and different forums, i wonder how many days/weeks it will take to someone to find it and maybe tell it to Sedat :lol: :lol: :lol:
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deeds wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:01 pm They told me that Sedat's eyes should have problems to read EXP's filesizes. As i already gave several times these values on my website and different forums, i wonder how many days/weeks it will take to someone to find it and maybe tell it to Sedat :lol: :lol: :lol:
You are NOT normal and once more you proved to be so...sad!
I simply asked a question about the latest size of Depth4 exp
And even for that question...I'm being criticized by you..LOL
Even if you mentioned before...not all are as Baba Vanga..))
Besides, I assume that even Baba Vanga could have difficulties
To predict the EXP size..since after each game..size is bigger!!
Correct Me please if I am wrong ?

On other hand,
I'm a little bit surprised that you can't publish size screenshot !?
Normally, you are good of sharing screenshots..but here oops ))
Sounds like the size of Depth4 exp is biggest than all opponents!

By the way, you have to OPEN your eyes!!
E.g your shared site link is not working properly...
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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

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Hello there )

Meanwhile (for anyone missed),
Since we have so many postings on OpenChess forum,
Let me say please some words as final conclusions...

What we noticed (in latest days, weeks..) that Deeds/He:

1) Seems to be used several fake accounts (botunnet etc.)
2) Opened current thread: when a daily tester lies to people...
Where he tried to damage my prestige, SCCT's name etc.
But thanks to GOD, where without any success so far!
And frankly it's impossible, due to my work all is clear!
E.g he wrote many times that Sedat prefer to says lies,
But without any prove... Btw, I know such people well,
Because they often lie and they think others are same!
3) Without the authors permissions, he shared many books:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3323
Plus, he underestimated all...with saying: New OCF's dump
4) Used wrong book settings (during his Book vs Exp test)
And tried to fool us...with naming real book names etc.
5) Refused my help offer: about how to create strong book
6) Refused Depth4 exp to be tested by trusted 3rd party TDs

As last words,
I can count many more points..but I think that it's enough!
As main reason...because I have no much free time for all..

Exception,
- Deeds is one of most dangerous members that I've ever seen,
And why I say like this, he persists even when he is wrong!
Plus as other bad point: Deeds never learns from the past!

And now some readers may say: Deeds is so bad?..not of course!
E.g arguing (with Deeds) was sometimes 'interesting' for sure !)

Best,
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deeds wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:39 pm I don't asked Conrog about SCCT's conditions but he already said :
conrog wrote: I never look after bullet games on 1 thread (1 minute+0.5s games) because those time controls create lots of blunders. For exemple just looking to games losed by OPTIMUS, I found 4 lost games with big blunders...
As expected, Conrog wasn't the only one not to valid tourney's conditions with so little threads/engine :
MZ wrote: I've never shared Community tests
STC and LTC use only 1 Thread
It makes little sense to me
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deeds wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:01 pm They told me that Sedat's eyes should have problems to read EXP's filesizes. As i already gave several times these values on my website and different forums, i wonder how many days/weeks it will take to someone to find it and maybe tell it to Sedat :lol: :lol: :lol:
I confirm, Sedat's eyes also have problems to read shop's hours ! 8-)
Another one who wants to use a shop only when it's closed :lol: :lol: :lol:

As expected after all these evidences, no one goes to risk answering Sedat's questions. :lol: :lol: :lol:

We're still going to have a lot of fun when, one day, they will compare the filesizes of the experience files with those of the opening books :lol: :lol: :lol:

Let's imagine if they don't know the entry sizes about the "polyglot bin", "SugaR Experience version 1", "SugaR Experience version 2", "Experience version 3.0" or "Experience version 3.1" file's formats, they won't be able to compare the stored moves number on each file 8-)
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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

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deeds wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 10:12 am I don't asked Conrog about SCCT's conditions but he already said :
conrog wrote: I never look after bullet games on 1 thread (1 minute+0.5s games) because those time controls create lots of blunders. For exemple just looking to games losed by OPTIMUS, I found 4 lost games with big blunders...
Is this as joke ??? come on...
Do not get Me more LOUGH )))

And once more you proved to be so..
E.g you never learn from the past!!

Anyhow, I will try once more...
Recently I already explained you that
Conrog was meaning Goi tour (not SCCT)

About M.Z comments,
I respect...but recently we noticed that
Marco is interested in SCCT tours...and
Not only nowadays..since many years...!!

On other hand,
E.g I use mainly for my Book Tours as:

1) If NON-NNUE: Blitz + MP + Ponder ON

2) If NNUE ON: Blitz + 1 Core, Ponder OFF
Reason of not using: Blitz + MP + Ponder ON
I am director of SCCT ! if still not clear:
I dislike BORING chess, if almost all draws!

And as I mentioned before,
What is the point of using an UMBRELLA?
If there is no much RAIN on the horizon ?)

But I admit also that (when NNUE as enabled)
Some of my tours are Blitz + MP + Ponder ON
Where in most cases, their draw-ratio was 99%

Btw, even 90% draw-ratio is high...but I think that
We have to be satisfied with that...especially since
NNUE is appeared on scene and via test 3700+ Elo !

After all,
Sure, I respect all other tours, ratings etc.
Anyone is free to run at any cond. no problem!
But in case of own created books, engines, exp etc.
I suggest kindly/strongly to be tested by trusted
Well-known 3rd party Tournament managers...
Otherwise, I pay no much attention...

Thanks for your understanding!
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Hi,

I confirm : my post was in " LesChats110423" topic in another forum, and referring to a tournament organized by Goi with non NNUE engine, and bullet games 1+0.5.

SCCT tournaments are tuned to create good games in all conditions, even with non NNUE engines.

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deeds wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:01 pm ...i wonder how many days/weeks it will take to someone to find it and maybe tell it to Sedat :lol: :lol: :lol:
Already 1 day :!:
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Too late, Conrog ! Sedat already understood :
Sedat wrote: ...But I admit also that (when NNUE as enabled)
Some of my tours are Blitz + MP + Ponder ON
Where in most cases, their draw-ratio was 99%
The old era of static chess with opening books is dying since people train learning engines. In computer chess era, it became absurd to run engines from starting position. Fishtest uses opening lists, Stockfish doesn't handle books, we have tools to reveal openings handled or not by books, it's the end.
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ConRog wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:36 pm Hi,

I confirm : my post was in " LesChats110423" topic in another forum, and referring to a tournament organized by Goi with non NNUE engine, and bullet games 1+0.5.

SCCT tournaments are tuned to create good games in all conditions, even with non NNUE engines.

Best regards.
Many thanks for your valuable comments!

Greetings
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