OpenChess

orgfert wrote:Eduard,

This is like jamming a chicken bone into the machines throat. It's an instructive exposure of machine weakness!

The games are old also. Hiarcs challenges Ed to a match anytime he wants in the Main Playing hall.

Some more recent games http://hiarcs.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3492

Harvey Williamson wrote:
The games are old also. Hiarcs challenges Ed to a match anytime he wants in the Main Playing hall.

Some more recent games http://hiarcs.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3492

Old game is relative. We had to wait for Hiarcs 13 too long time.
Now I'm 52 years, and do not want such a stress with perhaps 262 moves.

I play now since two years rather Advanced-Chess (centaur on playchess).
But, feel free to challenge Pablo Restrepo!

He would like nothing better than playing against a machine in "the Main Playing Hall".

ED.

These games hold entertainment value still.
They always remind me of the movie, "Rainman".
The Savant could memorize phone books and do squares of numbers instantly yet
couldn't make change from a dollar.

Today Hiarcs had a workout v a 2734 GM, Vugar Gashimov. He chose the bullet time control. I guess he wanted to try and lock it and win on time.

You can find the games here http://hiarcs.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=46755#46755

Harvey Williamson wrote:Today Hiarcs had a workout v a 2734 GM, Vugar Gashimov. He chose the bullet time control. I guess he wanted to try and lock it and win on time.

You can find the games here http://hiarcs.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=46755#46755

Gashimov is of course one of the best Chess Players of the world. My compliment to him!

But, in such games against Computers, he was playing only with a normally human style! Garry Kasparow (Best ELO 2851) played before 15 Years (in 1994) with such style to against Chess Genius, and Garry lost in Rapid Chess game (30 Minutes/Game) 0,5 -1,5!

What I mean by this: With this normally human-style a human cannot win against a machine. I hope you understand me? I think yes.

ED.

Eduard Nemeth wrote:

Harvey Williamson wrote:Today Hiarcs had a workout v a 2734 GM, Vugar Gashimov. He chose the bullet time control. I guess he wanted to try and lock it and win on time.

You can find the games here http://hiarcs.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=46755#46755

Gashimov is of course one of the best Chess Players of the world. My compliment to him!

But, in such games against Computers, he was playing only with a normally human style! Garry Kasparow (Best ELO 2851) played before 15 Years (in 1994) with such style to against Chess Genius, and Garry lost in Rapid Chess game (30 Minutes/Game) 0,5 -1,5!

What I mean by this: With this normally human-style a human cannot win against a machine. I hope you understand me? I think yes.

ED.

I think if you play in the style of Pablo in the engine room you have a chance to lock the position. BUT if you know you are about to play him you have time to set high contempt and play wild openings. So in a match I do not think he would win any games IF the computer was set up properly. The problem is that the best settings v other engines are not the best v someone who wants to lock the position and win on time.

Harvey Williamson wrote:

Eduard Nemeth wrote:

Harvey Williamson wrote:Today Hiarcs had a workout v a 2734 GM, Vugar Gashimov. He chose the bullet time control. I guess he wanted to try and lock it and win on time.

You can find the games here http://hiarcs.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=46755#46755

Gashimov is of course one of the best Chess Players of the world. My compliment to him!

But, in such games against Computers, he was playing only with a normally human style! Garry Kasparow (Best ELO 2851) played before 15 Years (in 1994) with such style to against Chess Genius, and Garry lost in Rapid Chess game (30 Minutes/Game) 0,5 -1,5!

What I mean by this: With this normally human-style a human cannot win against a machine. I hope you understand me? I think yes.

ED.

I think if you play in the style of Pablo in the engine room you have a chance to lock the position. BUT if you know you are about to play him you have time to set high contempt and play wild openings. So in a match I do not think he would win any games IF the computer was set up properly. The problem is that the best settings v other engines are not the best v someone who wants to lock the position and win on time.

Theoretically speaking the solutions to chess would be different for each possible first move by white. I wonder any of the solutions are closed positions?

Howard E wrote:These games hold entertainment value still.
They always remind me of the movie, "Rainman".
The Savant could memorize phone books and do squares of numbers instantly yet
couldn't make change from a dollar.

I also remember!



I have seen the movie Rainman least 4 times, no joke!

But: In contrast to the Rainman, I can do both a litte bit!
I myself can even playing chess (I played in the club and
had a rating of 2100), and I can also play Anti-Chess.
(Like Pablo, how do you can see)

Oh yes, I even have developed Anti-Computer-Chess strategies!
They stand on the Homepage of Patrick Buchmann
(In German and French).

http://pagesperso-orange.fr/lefouduroi/eddy/eddy1.htm

OK?
ED.

If anyone is interested: I think these are all the Hiarcs games v Humans in 2010. There are 2 draws from 384 games. Both of these from locked positions. Games 16 amd 17 are losses but they are comp v comp.

http://hiarcsx.co.uk/databases/HiarcsPlaychess.cbv

Eduard Nemeth wrote:

Howard E wrote:These games hold entertainment value still.
They always remind me of the movie, "Rainman".
The Savant could memorize phone books and do squares of numbers instantly yet
couldn't make change from a dollar.

I also remember!



I have seen the movie Rainman least 4 times, no joke!

But: In contrast to the Rainman, I can do both a litte bit!
I myself can even playing chess (I played in the club and
had a rating of 2100), and I can also play Anti-Chess.
(Like Pablo, how do you can see)

Oh yes, I even have developed Anti-Computer-Chess strategies!
They stand on the Homepage of Patrick Buchmann
(In German and French).

http://pagesperso-orange.fr/lefouduroi/eddy/eddy1.htm

OK?
ED.

Just to clarify in case of a misunderstanding. I was referring to the chess engine as being the Rainman character. These engines are so wonderfully strong yet can be "blind" to to intracies of closed/blocked positions. From your reply you may have thought I was referring to you as the Savant.

All the best