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Re: the "clones" issue for a user point of view
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:54 pm
by Harvey Williamson
kingliveson wrote:Harvey Williamson wrote:kingliveson wrote:Harvey Williamson wrote:stvs wrote:
would we have better engines than 2800 elo level fritz and shredder ?
There are 3 Humans with elo above 2800. I would bet that Fritz and Shredder would destroy them all in a match.
Depends on hardware.
I would take the challenge with my iPhome 4 + Hiarcs.
Harvey Williamson wrote:I guess for the engine players there is no CTG support?
1 GHz (?) CPU combined with ~3000+ Elo program shouldn't pose too much of a problem for GMs like Carlsen, Nakamura, Anand, etc...
3000 elo in comp v comp games but on Playchess in main room v Humans it is almost 3500 elo. PF4 got a 2931 rating in the GM tournament it played in and that is over a year ago.
Re: the "clones" issue for a user point of view
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:02 pm
by kingliveson
Harvey Williamson wrote:kingliveson wrote:Harvey Williamson wrote:kingliveson wrote:Harvey Williamson wrote:stvs wrote:
would we have better engines than 2800 elo level fritz and shredder ?
There are 3 Humans with elo above 2800. I would bet that Fritz and Shredder would destroy them all in a match.
Depends on hardware.
I would take the challenge with my iPhome 4 + Hiarcs.
Harvey Williamson wrote:I guess for the engine players there is no CTG support?
1 GHz (?) CPU combined with ~3000+ Elo program shouldn't pose too much of a problem for GMs like Carlsen, Nakamura, Anand, etc...
3000 elo in comp v comp games but on Playchess in main room v Humans it is almost 3500 elo. PF4 got a 2931 rating in the GM tournament it played in and that is over a year ago.
I bet the hardware is not quite what is described above. Not only that, there's also opening books I presume.
Re: the "clones" issue for a user point of view
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:05 pm
by Harvey Williamson
kingliveson wrote:Harvey Williamson wrote:kingliveson wrote:Harvey Williamson wrote:kingliveson wrote:Harvey Williamson wrote:stvs wrote:
would we have better engines than 2800 elo level fritz and shredder ?
There are 3 Humans with elo above 2800. I would bet that Fritz and Shredder would destroy them all in a match.
Depends on hardware.
I would take the challenge with my iPhome 4 + Hiarcs.
Harvey Williamson wrote:I guess for the engine players there is no CTG support?
1 GHz (?) CPU combined with ~3000+ Elo program shouldn't pose too much of a problem for GMs like Carlsen, Nakamura, Anand, etc...
3000 elo in comp v comp games but on Playchess in main room v Humans it is almost 3500 elo. PF4 got a 2931 rating in the GM tournament it played in and that is over a year ago.
I bet the hardware is not quite what is described above. Not only that, there's also opening books I presume.
The same opening book could be used for the iPhone although on Playchess I usually make the book play some weird stuff. i set it to Surprise!
Re: the "clones" issue for a user point of view
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:57 pm
by kingliveson
Harvey Williamson wrote:kingliveson wrote:Harvey Williamson wrote:kingliveson wrote:Harvey Williamson wrote:kingliveson wrote:Harvey Williamson wrote:stvs wrote:
would we have better engines than 2800 elo level fritz and shredder ?
There are 3 Humans with elo above 2800. I would bet that Fritz and Shredder would destroy them all in a match.
Depends on hardware.
I would take the challenge with my iPhome 4 + Hiarcs.
Harvey Williamson wrote:I guess for the engine players there is no CTG support?
1 GHz (?) CPU combined with ~3000+ Elo program shouldn't pose too much of a problem for GMs like Carlsen, Nakamura, Anand, etc...
3000 elo in comp v comp games but on Playchess in main room v Humans it is almost 3500 elo. PF4 got a 2931 rating in the GM tournament it played in and that is over a year ago.
I bet the hardware is not quite what is described above. Not only that, there's also opening books I presume.
The same opening book could be used for the iPhone although on Playchess I usually make the book play some weird stuff. i set it to Surprise!
Opening books and tablebases makes it unfair, because humans are not allowed such access. Anyways, I doubt any top GM would take the challenge without a major sponsor.
Re: the "clones" issue for a user point of view
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:03 am
by Harvey Williamson
kingliveson wrote:Harvey Williamson wrote:kingliveson wrote:Harvey Williamson wrote:kingliveson wrote:Harvey Williamson wrote:kingliveson wrote:Harvey Williamson wrote:stvs wrote:
would we have better engines than 2800 elo level fritz and shredder ?
There are 3 Humans with elo above 2800. I would bet that Fritz and Shredder would destroy them all in a match.
Depends on hardware.
I would take the challenge with my iPhome 4 + Hiarcs.
Harvey Williamson wrote:I guess for the engine players there is no CTG support?
1 GHz (?) CPU combined with ~3000+ Elo program shouldn't pose too much of a problem for GMs like Carlsen, Nakamura, Anand, etc...
3000 elo in comp v comp games but on Playchess in main room v Humans it is almost 3500 elo. PF4 got a 2931 rating in the GM tournament it played in and that is over a year ago.
I bet the hardware is not quite what is described above. Not only that, there's also opening books I presume.
The same opening book could be used for the iPhone although on Playchess I usually make the book play some weird stuff. i set it to Surprise!
Opening books and tablebases makes it unfair, because humans are not allowed such access. Anyways, I doubt any top GM would take the challenge without a major sponsor.
Has a match ever been played against a computer with no book and a Top GM? I do not remember one. No tbs yet on the iPhone. However the GM can have access to a book of his choice for the match.