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I was reinforcing my EXP file (with games showing unexpected low scores) and I came across this position :
FEN : 6rr/1pk2p2/3p1p1q/p1pPpQ1P/2P5/P1K1P3/1P3P2/6RR w - - 2 33
At D40, EMAN 8.40 said +6.30
At D40, SF16.1 said +1.22 so barely 60% chances of winning
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Stockfish 16.1 by the Stockfish developers (see AUTHORS file)
position fen 6rr/1pk2p2/3p1p1q/p1pPpQ1P/2P5/P1K1P3/1P3P2/6RR w - - 2 33
go depth 40
info string NNUE evaluation using nn-baff1ede1f90.nnue
info string NNUE evaluation using nn-b1a57edbea57.nnue
info depth 2 seldepth 3 multipv 1 score cp 108 nodes 99 nps 33000 hashfull 0 tbhits 0 time 3 pv g1g8 h8g8
info depth 4 seldepth 3 multipv 1 score cp 108 nodes 185 nps 46250 hashfull 0 tbhits 0 time 4 pv g1g8 h8g8
info depth 6 seldepth 6 multipv 1 score cp 136 nodes 304 nps 60800 hashfull 0 tbhits 0 time 5 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3
info depth 8 seldepth 7 multipv 1 score cp 131 nodes 852 nps 106500 hashfull 0 tbhits 0 time 8 pv g1g8 h8g8 f5c2 c7d8
info depth 10 seldepth 9 multipv 1 score cp 142 nodes 2105 nps 161923 hashfull 0 tbhits 0 time 13 pv g1g8 h8g8 f5c2 g8g2
info depth 12 seldepth 14 multipv 1 score cp 144 nodes 5292 nps 252000 hashfull 2 tbhits 0 time 21 pv g1g8 h8g8 f5c2 g8g5
info depth 14 seldepth 16 multipv 1 score cp 123 nodes 47361 nps 411834 hashfull 16 tbhits 0 time 115 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8h8
info depth 16 seldepth 20 multipv 1 score cp 138 nodes 104559 nps 448751 hashfull 34 tbhits 0 time 233 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8g5
info depth 18 seldepth 28 multipv 1 score cp 146 nodes 223314 nps 448421 hashfull 81 tbhits 0 time 498 pv g1g8 h8g8 f5c2 h6g7
info depth 20 seldepth 32 multipv 1 score cp 154 nodes 847026 nps 475857 hashfull 312 tbhits 0 time 1780 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8g5
info depth 22 seldepth 35 multipv 1 score cp 159 nodes 1440473 nps 496201 hashfull 501 tbhits 0 time 2903 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8g5
info depth 24 seldepth 41 multipv 1 score cp 149 nodes 2386655 nps 492093 hashfull 711 tbhits 0 time 4850 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8h8
info depth 26 seldepth 41 multipv 1 score cp 151 nodes 4870345 nps 482116 hashfull 949 tbhits 0 time 10102 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8g5
info depth 28 seldepth 40 multipv 1 score cp 142 nodes 7238596 nps 478047 hashfull 991 tbhits 0 time 15142 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8g5
info depth 30 seldepth 44 multipv 1 score cp 158 nodes 12452991 nps 474815 hashfull 999 tbhits 0 time 26227 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8g5
info depth 32 seldepth 47 multipv 1 score cp 143 nodes 19322185 nps 477857 hashfull 1000 tbhits 0 time 40435 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8a8
info depth 34 seldepth 58 multipv 1 score cp 132 nodes 23966435 nps 483662 hashfull 1000 tbhits 0 time 49552 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8a8
info depth 36 seldepth 58 multipv 1 score cp 126 nodes 31697148 nps 491382 hashfull 1000 tbhits 0 time 64506 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8a8
info depth 38 seldepth 63 multipv 1 score cp 129 nodes 38322285 nps 481508 hashfull 1000 tbhits 0 time 79588 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8a8
info depth 40 seldepth 68 multipv 1 score cp 122 nodes 56609624 nps 447935 hashfull 1000 tbhits 0 time 126379 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8a8
bestmove g1g8 ponder h8g8
After 2000 games against 4 various opponents, there are more than 86% chances of winning :
So SF16.1 undervalues this opening's advantage for a very long time :
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[Event "deeds_chess_system"]
[Site "dual xeon e5-2660v3"]
[Date "2025.01.30"]
[Round "12"]
[White "stockfish 16.1"]
[Black "deeds_chess_system"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "E21"]
[GameDuration "00:04:10"]
[GameEndTime "2025-01-30T17:11:47.882 Paris, Madrid"]
[GameStartTime "2025-01-30T17:07:37.541 Paris, Madrid"]
[Opening "Nimzo-Indian"]
[PlyCount "177"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
[Variation "Three knights, Euwe Variation"]
1. d4 {book} Nf6 {book} 2. c4 {book} e6 {book} 3. Nc3 {book} Bb4 {book}
4. Nf3 {book} c5 {book} 5. d5 {book} Ne4 {book} 6. Qd3 {book} Qf6 {book}
7. Bd2 {book} Nxd2 {book} 8. Nxd2 {book} O-O {book} 9. Nde4 {book} Qg6 {book}
10. O-O-O {book} e5 {book} 11. g4 {+1.25/25 3.0s} Bxc3 {+1.45/51 0.001s}
12. Nxc3 {+1.31/23 0.99s} Qxg4 {+1.44/45 0.001s} 13. h4 {+1.30/22 0.61s}
d6 {+1.59/48 0.002s} 14. Bh3 {+1.31/22 0.63s} Qf4+ {+1.68/45 0.002s}
15. e3 {+1.35/25 0.90s} Qh6 {+2.11/50 0.001s} 16. Bxc8 {+1.32/25 1.0s}
Rxc8 {+2.31/51 0.001s} 17. Qf5 {+1.28/26 1.9s} Rd8 {+1.93/50 0.001s}
18. Rdg1 {+1.34/25 2.6s} Nd7 {+2.26/49 0.001s} 19. Ne4 {+1.33/36 6.8s}
Kf8 {+2.40/47 0.001s} 20. h5 {+1.33/23 0.55s} Ke7 {+1.85/49 0.001s}
21. Ng5 {+1.36/23 0.87s} Rf8 {+2.04/48 0.001s} 22. Nxh7 {+1.37/23 0.85s}
Rh8 {+2.55/46 0.001s} 23. Ng5 {+1.33/26 1.7s} Raf8 {+2.24/49 0.001s}
24. Ne4 {+1.38/24 1.1s} Nf6 {+2.17/48 0.001s} 25. Ng3 {+1.36/23 0.67s}
Kd8 {+2.13/49 0.001s} 26. Qf3 {+1.38/23 0.77s} Ne8 {+2.31/46 0.001s}
27. Ne4 {+1.37/20 0.65s} Kc7 {+2.21/47 0.001s} 28. a3 {+1.39/22 0.67s}
Nf6 {+2.14/45 0.001s} 29. Nxf6 {+1.40/23 1.1s} gxf6 {+2.49/42 0.001s}
30. Kc2 {+1.38/29 9.0s} Ra8 {+3.05/40 0.001s} 31. Kc3 {+1.41/21 0.81s}
a5 {+2.51/29 9.2s} 32. Qf5 {+1.49/25 2.0s} Rag8 {+3.14/30 19s}
33. Rxg8 {+1.50/20 0.67s} Rxg8 {+2.48/28 1.9s} 34. Kb3 {+1.26/26 2.0s}
Ra8 {+2.59/30 8.4s} 35. Ka4 {+1.33/23 0.85s} Ra6 {+2.31/29 1.6s}
36. Rg1 {+1.34/26 1.8s} Qh8 {+3.43/34 8.5s} 37. Kb3 {+1.25/24 1.2s}
Ra8 {+4.33/37 23s} 38. Ka2 {+1.40/28 2.5s} Qh6 {+2.54/25 1.1s}
39. f4 {+1.27/25 1.9s} Re8 {+2.22/26 2.2s} 40. Rh1 {+1.46/33 4.3s}
a4 {+2.14/27 1.6s} 41. fxe5 {+1.56/31 1.1s} Rxe5 {+2.87/30 5.2s}
42. Qf4 {+1.57/27 0.54s} Qg5 {+2.75/29 0.99s} 43. h6 {+1.56/26 1.1s}
Re8 {+2.69/30 1.7s} 44. h7 {+1.48/27 1.9s} Rh8 {+2.75/28 1.7s}
45. Qe4 {+1.57/26 0.88s} Kd8 {+2.97/27 1.3s} 46. Qc2 {+1.61/25 0.68s}
Qg6 {+3.23/29 1.1s} 47. Qxa4 {+1.64/25 0.56s} Rxh7 {+3.41/30 3.1s}
48. Rc1 {+1.74/24 0.57s} Rh2 {+2.55/26 2.0s} 49. Qb5 {+2.08/28 5.1s}
Kc7 {+2.43/26 0.42s} 50. Qa5+ {+2.11/22 0.48s} Kc8 {+4.27/27 2.3s}
51. Qb6 {+2.34/31 7.2s} f5 {+5.11/30 2.0s} 52. Rc3 {+2.35/21 0.28s}
Qf6 {+4.82/26 0.53s} 53. Rb3 {+2.41/22 1.4s} Qe7 {+6.08/28 2.1s}
54. Qa7 {+2.45/21 0.42s} Qc7 {+3.27/19 0.46s} 55. Rb6 {+2.46/22 0.48s}
Rh4 {+3.88/21 1.3s} 56. Kb3 {+2.47/21 0.42s} Rh6 {+3.81/19 0.37s}
57. Kc2 {+2.50/20 0.57s} Rh2+ {+4.32/22 1.6s} 58. Kd3 {+2.67/21 1.6s}
f4 {+4.97/22 1.6s} 59. exf4 {+2.77/18 0.42s} Rh3+ {+5.31/19 0.47s}
60. Kc2 {+2.83/20 0.62s} Rf3 {+5.39/19 0.32s} 61. Qa8+ {+2.97/22 1.0s}
Qb8 {+5.69/20 1.2s} 62. Qxb8+ {+3.09/18 0.83s} Kxb8 {+6.04/22 1.5s}
63. Rxd6 {+3.14/18 0.54s} Rxf4 {+6.19/18 0.56s} 64. Kb3 {+3.16/21 0.76s}
Kc7 {+6.53/21 1.9s} 65. Rh6 {+3.19/18 0.51s} Rf2 {+6.59/19 0.53s}
66. Rh3 {+3.58/17 1.4s} b6 {+6.89/20 1.6s} 67. Kc3 {+3.81/18 0.90s}
Rf1 {+7.38/20 1.3s} 68. b4 {+4.42/20 2.1s} Kd6 {+8.60/16 0.67s}
69. Rd3 {+4.57/19 0.50s} Rb1 {+10.00/16 1.3s} 70. Kc2 {+4.73/17 0.48s}
Rg1 {+10.70/16 1.1s} 71. Kb3 {+4.99/18 0.55s} f5 {+11.37/15 0.65s}
72. Ka4 {+6.30/23 4.1s} f4 {+13.05/15 1.3s} 73. Rf3 {+7.15/23 2.4s}
Ke5 {+13.56/15 0.37s} 74. Kb5 {+7.39/16 0.59s} Ke4 {+14.37/15 1.4s}
75. Rf2 {+7.67/18 0.72s} Ke3 {+15.57/16 1.3s} 76. Rb2 {+7.85/17 0.56s}
Kf3 {+16.35/16 1.1s} 77. bxc5 {+8.86/17 1.3s} Ke3 {+17.47/15 1.0s}
78. cxb6 {+9.53/16 0.68s} Rg7 {+21.61/15 1.0s} 79. d6 {+85.95/21 7.5s}
Rd7 {+40.01/15 1.00s} 80. Kc6 {+199.45/17 0.40s} Rd8 {+100.00/20 1.0s}
81. b7 {+199.91/28 0.46s} Rb8 {+100.00/25 0.46s} 82. Kc7 {+199.95/32 1.8s}
Rxb7+ {+M20/33 0.88s} 83. Rxb7 {+M19/37 0.56s} f3 {+M20/25 0.35s}
84. Rb3+ {+M17/41 0.52s} Ke4 {+M16/47 0.39s} 85. d7 {+M15/53 0.49s}
f2 {+M14/63 0.36s} 86. d8=Q {+M13/54 0.53s} f1=Q {+M12/74 0.37s}
87. Qe8+ {+M11/58 0.53s} Kf5 {+M10/95 0.48s} 88. Qf8+ {+M9/78 0.53s}
Kg5 {+M8/146 0.65s}
89. Qxf1 {+M7/173 0.54s, White wins by adjudication: SyzygyTB} 1-0
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supernova
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by supernova »
deeds wrote: Tue May 13, 2025 2:38 pm
I was reinforcing my EXP file (with games showing unexpected low scores) and I came across this position :
FEN : 6rr/1pk2p2/3p1p1q/p1pPpQ1P/2P5/P1K1P3/1P3P2/6RR w - - 2 33
At D40, EMAN 8.40 said +6.30
At D40, SF16.1 said +1.22 so barely 60% chances of winning
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Stockfish 16.1 by the Stockfish developers (see AUTHORS file)
position fen 6rr/1pk2p2/3p1p1q/p1pPpQ1P/2P5/P1K1P3/1P3P2/6RR w - - 2 33
go depth 40
info string NNUE evaluation using nn-baff1ede1f90.nnue
info string NNUE evaluation using nn-b1a57edbea57.nnue
info depth 2 seldepth 3 multipv 1 score cp 108 nodes 99 nps 33000 hashfull 0 tbhits 0 time 3 pv g1g8 h8g8
info depth 4 seldepth 3 multipv 1 score cp 108 nodes 185 nps 46250 hashfull 0 tbhits 0 time 4 pv g1g8 h8g8
info depth 6 seldepth 6 multipv 1 score cp 136 nodes 304 nps 60800 hashfull 0 tbhits 0 time 5 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3
info depth 8 seldepth 7 multipv 1 score cp 131 nodes 852 nps 106500 hashfull 0 tbhits 0 time 8 pv g1g8 h8g8 f5c2 c7d8
info depth 10 seldepth 9 multipv 1 score cp 142 nodes 2105 nps 161923 hashfull 0 tbhits 0 time 13 pv g1g8 h8g8 f5c2 g8g2
info depth 12 seldepth 14 multipv 1 score cp 144 nodes 5292 nps 252000 hashfull 2 tbhits 0 time 21 pv g1g8 h8g8 f5c2 g8g5
info depth 14 seldepth 16 multipv 1 score cp 123 nodes 47361 nps 411834 hashfull 16 tbhits 0 time 115 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8h8
info depth 16 seldepth 20 multipv 1 score cp 138 nodes 104559 nps 448751 hashfull 34 tbhits 0 time 233 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8g5
info depth 18 seldepth 28 multipv 1 score cp 146 nodes 223314 nps 448421 hashfull 81 tbhits 0 time 498 pv g1g8 h8g8 f5c2 h6g7
info depth 20 seldepth 32 multipv 1 score cp 154 nodes 847026 nps 475857 hashfull 312 tbhits 0 time 1780 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8g5
info depth 22 seldepth 35 multipv 1 score cp 159 nodes 1440473 nps 496201 hashfull 501 tbhits 0 time 2903 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8g5
info depth 24 seldepth 41 multipv 1 score cp 149 nodes 2386655 nps 492093 hashfull 711 tbhits 0 time 4850 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8h8
info depth 26 seldepth 41 multipv 1 score cp 151 nodes 4870345 nps 482116 hashfull 949 tbhits 0 time 10102 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8g5
info depth 28 seldepth 40 multipv 1 score cp 142 nodes 7238596 nps 478047 hashfull 991 tbhits 0 time 15142 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8g5
info depth 30 seldepth 44 multipv 1 score cp 158 nodes 12452991 nps 474815 hashfull 999 tbhits 0 time 26227 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8g5
info depth 32 seldepth 47 multipv 1 score cp 143 nodes 19322185 nps 477857 hashfull 1000 tbhits 0 time 40435 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8a8
info depth 34 seldepth 58 multipv 1 score cp 132 nodes 23966435 nps 483662 hashfull 1000 tbhits 0 time 49552 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8a8
info depth 36 seldepth 58 multipv 1 score cp 126 nodes 31697148 nps 491382 hashfull 1000 tbhits 0 time 64506 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8a8
info depth 38 seldepth 63 multipv 1 score cp 129 nodes 38322285 nps 481508 hashfull 1000 tbhits 0 time 79588 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8a8
info depth 40 seldepth 68 multipv 1 score cp 122 nodes 56609624 nps 447935 hashfull 1000 tbhits 0 time 126379 pv g1g8 h8g8 c3b3 g8a8
bestmove g1g8 ponder h8g8
After 2000 games against 4 various opponents, there are more than 86% chances of winning :
So SF16.1 undervalues this opening's advantage for a very long time :
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[Event "deeds_chess_system"]
[Site "dual xeon e5-2660v3"]
[Date "2025.01.30"]
[Round "12"]
[White "stockfish 16.1"]
[Black "deeds_chess_system"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "E21"]
[GameDuration "00:04:10"]
[GameEndTime "2025-01-30T17:11:47.882 Paris, Madrid"]
[GameStartTime "2025-01-30T17:07:37.541 Paris, Madrid"]
[Opening "Nimzo-Indian"]
[PlyCount "177"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
[Variation "Three knights, Euwe Variation"]
1. d4 {book} Nf6 {book} 2. c4 {book} e6 {book} 3. Nc3 {book} Bb4 {book}
4. Nf3 {book} c5 {book} 5. d5 {book} Ne4 {book} 6. Qd3 {book} Qf6 {book}
7. Bd2 {book} Nxd2 {book} 8. Nxd2 {book} O-O {book} 9. Nde4 {book} Qg6 {book}
10. O-O-O {book} e5 {book} 11. g4 {+1.25/25 3.0s} Bxc3 {+1.45/51 0.001s}
12. Nxc3 {+1.31/23 0.99s} Qxg4 {+1.44/45 0.001s} 13. h4 {+1.30/22 0.61s}
d6 {+1.59/48 0.002s} 14. Bh3 {+1.31/22 0.63s} Qf4+ {+1.68/45 0.002s}
15. e3 {+1.35/25 0.90s} Qh6 {+2.11/50 0.001s} 16. Bxc8 {+1.32/25 1.0s}
Rxc8 {+2.31/51 0.001s} 17. Qf5 {+1.28/26 1.9s} Rd8 {+1.93/50 0.001s}
18. Rdg1 {+1.34/25 2.6s} Nd7 {+2.26/49 0.001s} 19. Ne4 {+1.33/36 6.8s}
Kf8 {+2.40/47 0.001s} 20. h5 {+1.33/23 0.55s} Ke7 {+1.85/49 0.001s}
21. Ng5 {+1.36/23 0.87s} Rf8 {+2.04/48 0.001s} 22. Nxh7 {+1.37/23 0.85s}
Rh8 {+2.55/46 0.001s} 23. Ng5 {+1.33/26 1.7s} Raf8 {+2.24/49 0.001s}
24. Ne4 {+1.38/24 1.1s} Nf6 {+2.17/48 0.001s} 25. Ng3 {+1.36/23 0.67s}
Kd8 {+2.13/49 0.001s} 26. Qf3 {+1.38/23 0.77s} Ne8 {+2.31/46 0.001s}
27. Ne4 {+1.37/20 0.65s} Kc7 {+2.21/47 0.001s} 28. a3 {+1.39/22 0.67s}
Nf6 {+2.14/45 0.001s} 29. Nxf6 {+1.40/23 1.1s} gxf6 {+2.49/42 0.001s}
30. Kc2 {+1.38/29 9.0s} Ra8 {+3.05/40 0.001s} 31. Kc3 {+1.41/21 0.81s}
a5 {+2.51/29 9.2s} 32. Qf5 {+1.49/25 2.0s} Rag8 {+3.14/30 19s}
33. Rxg8 {+1.50/20 0.67s} Rxg8 {+2.48/28 1.9s} 34. Kb3 {+1.26/26 2.0s}
Ra8 {+2.59/30 8.4s} 35. Ka4 {+1.33/23 0.85s} Ra6 {+2.31/29 1.6s}
36. Rg1 {+1.34/26 1.8s} Qh8 {+3.43/34 8.5s} 37. Kb3 {+1.25/24 1.2s}
Ra8 {+4.33/37 23s} 38. Ka2 {+1.40/28 2.5s} Qh6 {+2.54/25 1.1s}
39. f4 {+1.27/25 1.9s} Re8 {+2.22/26 2.2s} 40. Rh1 {+1.46/33 4.3s}
a4 {+2.14/27 1.6s} 41. fxe5 {+1.56/31 1.1s} Rxe5 {+2.87/30 5.2s}
42. Qf4 {+1.57/27 0.54s} Qg5 {+2.75/29 0.99s} 43. h6 {+1.56/26 1.1s}
Re8 {+2.69/30 1.7s} 44. h7 {+1.48/27 1.9s} Rh8 {+2.75/28 1.7s}
45. Qe4 {+1.57/26 0.88s} Kd8 {+2.97/27 1.3s} 46. Qc2 {+1.61/25 0.68s}
Qg6 {+3.23/29 1.1s} 47. Qxa4 {+1.64/25 0.56s} Rxh7 {+3.41/30 3.1s}
48. Rc1 {+1.74/24 0.57s} Rh2 {+2.55/26 2.0s} 49. Qb5 {+2.08/28 5.1s}
Kc7 {+2.43/26 0.42s} 50. Qa5+ {+2.11/22 0.48s} Kc8 {+4.27/27 2.3s}
51. Qb6 {+2.34/31 7.2s} f5 {+5.11/30 2.0s} 52. Rc3 {+2.35/21 0.28s}
Qf6 {+4.82/26 0.53s} 53. Rb3 {+2.41/22 1.4s} Qe7 {+6.08/28 2.1s}
54. Qa7 {+2.45/21 0.42s} Qc7 {+3.27/19 0.46s} 55. Rb6 {+2.46/22 0.48s}
Rh4 {+3.88/21 1.3s} 56. Kb3 {+2.47/21 0.42s} Rh6 {+3.81/19 0.37s}
57. Kc2 {+2.50/20 0.57s} Rh2+ {+4.32/22 1.6s} 58. Kd3 {+2.67/21 1.6s}
f4 {+4.97/22 1.6s} 59. exf4 {+2.77/18 0.42s} Rh3+ {+5.31/19 0.47s}
60. Kc2 {+2.83/20 0.62s} Rf3 {+5.39/19 0.32s} 61. Qa8+ {+2.97/22 1.0s}
Qb8 {+5.69/20 1.2s} 62. Qxb8+ {+3.09/18 0.83s} Kxb8 {+6.04/22 1.5s}
63. Rxd6 {+3.14/18 0.54s} Rxf4 {+6.19/18 0.56s} 64. Kb3 {+3.16/21 0.76s}
Kc7 {+6.53/21 1.9s} 65. Rh6 {+3.19/18 0.51s} Rf2 {+6.59/19 0.53s}
66. Rh3 {+3.58/17 1.4s} b6 {+6.89/20 1.6s} 67. Kc3 {+3.81/18 0.90s}
Rf1 {+7.38/20 1.3s} 68. b4 {+4.42/20 2.1s} Kd6 {+8.60/16 0.67s}
69. Rd3 {+4.57/19 0.50s} Rb1 {+10.00/16 1.3s} 70. Kc2 {+4.73/17 0.48s}
Rg1 {+10.70/16 1.1s} 71. Kb3 {+4.99/18 0.55s} f5 {+11.37/15 0.65s}
72. Ka4 {+6.30/23 4.1s} f4 {+13.05/15 1.3s} 73. Rf3 {+7.15/23 2.4s}
Ke5 {+13.56/15 0.37s} 74. Kb5 {+7.39/16 0.59s} Ke4 {+14.37/15 1.4s}
75. Rf2 {+7.67/18 0.72s} Ke3 {+15.57/16 1.3s} 76. Rb2 {+7.85/17 0.56s}
Kf3 {+16.35/16 1.1s} 77. bxc5 {+8.86/17 1.3s} Ke3 {+17.47/15 1.0s}
78. cxb6 {+9.53/16 0.68s} Rg7 {+21.61/15 1.0s} 79. d6 {+85.95/21 7.5s}
Rd7 {+40.01/15 1.00s} 80. Kc6 {+199.45/17 0.40s} Rd8 {+100.00/20 1.0s}
81. b7 {+199.91/28 0.46s} Rb8 {+100.00/25 0.46s} 82. Kc7 {+199.95/32 1.8s}
Rxb7+ {+M20/33 0.88s} 83. Rxb7 {+M19/37 0.56s} f3 {+M20/25 0.35s}
84. Rb3+ {+M17/41 0.52s} Ke4 {+M16/47 0.39s} 85. d7 {+M15/53 0.49s}
f2 {+M14/63 0.36s} 86. d8=Q {+M13/54 0.53s} f1=Q {+M12/74 0.37s}
87. Qe8+ {+M11/58 0.53s} Kf5 {+M10/95 0.48s} 88. Qf8+ {+M9/78 0.53s}
Kg5 {+M8/146 0.65s}
89. Qxf1 {+M7/173 0.54s, White wins by adjudication: SyzygyTB} 1-0
I use the last Stockfish official version and it does not see any inflated score.
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deeds wrote: Tue May 13, 2025 2:38 pm
FEN : 6rr/1pk2p2/3p1p1q/p1pPpQ1P/2P5/P1K1P3/1P3P2/6RR w - - 2 33
At D40, EMAN 8.40 said +6.30
The evaluation gets worse as Dragon 3.3 sees deeper :
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info depth 30 time 60415 nodes 44364857 score cp 125 nps 734334 hashfull 930 tbhits 0 pv g1g8 h8g8 f5c2 g8a8 b2b4 c5b4 a3b4 a5b4 c3b4 c7b8 b4c3 a8a3 c3b2 a3a6 c2f5 b8c7 h1a1 a6a1 b2a1 c7d8 a1b2 d8e7 b2b3 h6h8 b3b4 h8f8 b4c3 f8h8 c3b3 b7b6 f2f3 h8h6 f3f4 h6h8 f4e5 f6e5
info depth 31 time 66033 nodes 48582620 score cp 135 nps 735731 hashfull 946 tbhits 0 pv g1g8 h8g8 f5c2 g8a8 b2b4 c5b4 a3b4 a5b4 c3b4 c7b8 c4c5 h6f8 c5c6 f8d8 c6c7 d8c7 c2c7 b8c7 h5h6 a8h8 h6h7 f6f5 b4b5 f5f4 e3f4 e5f4 h1h6 f4f3 b5a5 c7d7 a5b6 d7e7 b6b7 e7d7 b7b6 d7e7 b6c6
info depth 32 time 88193 nodes 65308240 score cp 131 nps 740510 hashfull 992 tbhits 0 pv g1g8 h8g8 f5c2 g8a8 b2b4 c5b4 a3b4 a5b4 c3b4 c7b8 c4c5 d6c5 c2c5 a8a6 h1g1 h6h8 h5h6 f6f5 b4b3 f5f4 g1g7 h8e8 d5d6 a6c6 c5b4 b8a7 b4a5 c6a6 a5c5 a6b6 b3c3 f4e3 f2e3 e8c6 c5c6 b6c6 c3b4 c6d6 h6h7 d6h6 g7f7
info depth 33 time 129049 nodes 96201053 score cp 129 nps 745457 hashfull 1000 tbhits 0 pv g1g8 h8g8 f5c2 g8a8 b2b4 c5b4 a3b4 a5b4 c3b4 c7b8 c4c5 d6c5 c2c5 a8a6 b4c4 f6f5 h1b1 h6h8 h5h6 a6a4 c4b3 a4a6 b1h1 a6h6 h1a1 h8d8 c5a7 b8c7 a1c1 c7d7 a7b7 d7e8 c1c7 h6a6 c7c8 a6b6 b7b6 d8c8 b6c6 c8d7 b3c4 f5f4
info depth 34 time 159574 nodes 119332499 score cp 140 nps 747818 hashfull 1000 tbhits 0 pv g1g8 h8g8 f5c2 g8a8 b2b4 c5b4 a3b4 a5b4 c3b4 c7b8 c4c5 a8a6 c2c4 f6f5 c4b5 d6c5 b4c4 a6a2 h1b1 h6a6 b5a6 a2a6 c4c5 a6h6 b1b6 h6h5 b6f6 f5f4 e3f4 e5f4 f6f7 b8c8 f7f4 h5h7 c5d6 h7h6 d6e7 h6h7 e7e6 h7h8 d5d6 h8e8 e6d5 e8e2 f4f8 c8d7 f8f7 d7e8
info depth 35 time 217620 nodes 163641463 score cp 141 nps 751957 hashfull 1000 tbhits 0 pv g1g8 h8g8 f5c2 g8a8 b2b4 c5b4 a3b4 a5b4 c3b4 a8a6 c4c5 c7b8 c2c4 f6f5 c4b5 d6c5 b4c4 a6a2 h1b1 h6a6 b5a6 a2a6 c4c5 a6h6 b1b6 h6h5 b6f6 f5f4 e3f4 e5f4 f6f7 h5h4 d5d6 b8c8 f7c7 c8d8 c7b7 h4h1 b7f7 h1c1 c5d5 c1d1 d5e5 d1e1 e5f4 e1e2 f2f3 e2e6 d6d7 d8c7 f7g7
info depth 36 time 228851 nodes 180529932 score cp 141 nps 788850 hashfull 1000 tbhits 0 pv g1g8 h8g8 f5c2 g8a8 b2b4 c5b4 a3b4 a5b4 c3b4 a8a6 c4c5 c7b8 c2c4 f6f5 c4b5 d6c5 b4c4 a6a2 h1b1 h6a6 b5a6 a2a6 c4c5 a6h6 b1b6 h6h5 b6f6 f5f4 e3f4 e5f4 f6f7 h5h4 d5d6 b8c8 f7c7 c8d8 c7b7 h4h1 b7f7 h1c1 c5d5 c1d1 d5e5 d1e1 e5f4 e1e2 f2f3 e2e6 d6d7 d8c7 f7g7 e6d6 f4e4 d6d2 f3f4
info depth 37 time 311437 nodes 245460465 score cp 151 nps 788152 hashfull 1000 tbhits 0 pv g1g8 h8g8 f5c2 g8a8 b2b4 c5b4 a3b4 a5b4 c3b4 a8a6 c4c5 c7b8 c2c4 d6c5 c4c5 f6f5 d5d6 a6d6 c5e5 h6e6 e5e6 f7e6 h5h6 d6d8 h1g1 b8c7 b4b5 d8d5 b5c4 d5d8 g1g7 c7c6 h6h7 d8h8 g7e7 b7b5 c4b4 c6d6 e7b7 d6c6 b7g7 c6d5 b4b5 d5e4 b5c6 h8d8
info depth 38 time 569537 nodes 445914680 score cp 159 nps 782942 hashfull 1000 tbhits 0 pv g1g8 h8g8 f5c2 g8a8 c3b3 h6g5 h5h6 a5a4 b3a2 g5g6 e3e4 g6g2 h1h4 g2g5 h4h2 a8h8 h2h3 g5g4 h3g3 g4d7 c2d2 c7b6 b2b4 a4b3 g3b3 b6a7 d2a5 a7b8 b3g3 d7c8 a5b6 c8c7 b6c7 b8c7 g3h3 h8h7 a2b3 c7d8 b3a4 d8e7 a4b5 e7f8
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botunnet wrote: Wed May 14, 2025 4:25 pm
deeds wrote: Tue May 13, 2025 2:38 pm
FEN : 6rr/1pk2p2/3p1p1q/p1pPpQ1P/2P5/P1K1P3/1P3P2/6RR w - - 2 33
At D40, EMAN 8.40 said +6.30
The evaluation gets worse as Dragon 3.3 sees deeper :
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info depth 38 time 569537 nodes 445914680 score cp 159 nps 782942 hashfull 1000 tbhits 0 pv g1g8 h8g8 f5c2 g8a8 c3b3 h6g5 h5h6 a5a4 b3a2 g5g6 e3e4 g6g2 h1h4 g2g5 h4h2 a8h8 h2h3 g5g4 h3g3 g4d7 c2d2 c7b6 b2b4 a4b3 g3b3 b6a7 d2a5 a7b8 b3g3 d7c8 a5b6 c8c7 b6c7 b8c7 g3h3 h8h7 a2b3 c7d8 b3a4 d8e7 a4b5 e7f8
Why not using the last Stockfish version and what is the relevance of using an old engine?
