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Re: How about we have a little laugh ?

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deeds wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 2:59 pm With book width = 1

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   # PLAYER                                :  RATING  ERROR  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)    W     D    L  D(%)  OppAvg  OppN
   1 white_Perfect 2023.bin (Eman 8.40)    :       0   ----   636.0    1200  53.0   82  1108   10  92.3       0     1
   2 Perfect 2023.bin (Eman 8.40)          :       0   ----   564.0    1200  47.0   10  1108   82  92.3       0     1

White advantage = 21.05 +/- 7.24
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
With book width = 2

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   # PLAYER                                :  RATING  ERROR  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)    W     D    L  D(%)  OppAvg  OppN
   1 white_Perfect 2023.bin (Eman 8.40)    :       0   ----   623.0    1200  51.9   46  1154    0  96.2       0     1
   2 Perfect 2023.bin (Eman 8.40)          :       0   ----   577.0    1200  48.1    0  1154   46  96.2       0     1

White advantage = 13.44 +/- 7.18
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
82-10 and 46-0 !!!

Where to get white_Perfect 2023.bin ? :difus_20
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Reminder :
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:difus_laugh :difus_laugh :difus_laugh


About the match between Bruteforce_binbook's "white_Perfect 2023.bin" and Sedat's "Perfect 2023.bin" :
botunnet wrote: Fri May 02, 2025 8:31 pm 82-10 and 46-0 !!!

Where to get white_Perfect 2023.bin ? :difus_20
You will find all the files here :
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But you can create your own "anti-Perfect 2023" book, you only need these few moves :

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e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 f1b5 g7g6 b5c6 d7c6 d2d3 f8g7 h2h3 b7b6 e1g1 g8f6 a2a4
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 f1b5 g7g6 b5c6 b7c6 e1g1 f8g7 f1e1 g8f6 e4e5 f6d5 c2c4 d5c7 b1c3
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 f1b5 g7g6 b5c6 b7c6 e1g1 f8g7 f1e1 g8h6 c2c3 e8g8 h2h3 d7d6 d2d4 c5d4 c3d4 f7f6 c1d2

g1f3 g8f6 c2c4 c7c6 d2d4 e7e6 c1f4 d7d5 e2e3 f8d6 f4d6 d8d6 b1c3 b7b6 f1d3 e8g8 e1g1 c8b7 c4d5 e6d5 d1b3
g1f3 g8f6 c2c4 c7c6 d2d4 e7e6 c1f4 d7d5 e2e3 f8d6 f4d6 d8d6 b1c3 b7b6 f1e2 b8d7 e1g1
g1f3 g8f6 c2c4 c7c6 d2d4 e7e6 c1f4 d7d5 e2e3 f8d6 f4d6 d8d6 b1c3 b7b6 f1e2 b8d7 c4d5 e6d5 h2h3
ENJOY :!:
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Re: How about we have a little laugh ?

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deeds wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 8:45 am At SedatChess, engines obtain the same statistics under different conditions ! :o

Exemple with Stockfish 020425 (7 elo / 8 elo, 51.1% / 51.0%) :
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And it was the same lottery for Omega MPV (6 elo / 6 elo, 50.8% / 51.0%), Artemis 12TR (-3 elo / -2 elo, 49.5% / 49.7%)...

:difus_laugh :difus_laugh :difus_laugh
Another opening but same tourney's conditions :arrow: This time, which engine lost the SedatChess lottery ?

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At SedatChess, when an engine lost more than 60 elo, here is the explanation of the clown Sedat :
Sedat wrote: ...unusual...
...Omega MPV is last...
...any ideas over these issues...
...small data...
...such mystery...
...Very strange really...
...Omega MPV did not like...
source

It made my day :lol:
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botunnet wrote: Sat May 03, 2025 9:27 am At SedatChess, when an engine lost more than 60 elo, here is the explanation of the clown Sedat :
Sedat wrote: ...unusual...
...Omega MPV is last...
...any ideas over these issues...
...small data...
...such mystery...
...Very strange really...
...Omega MPV did not like...
source

It made my day :lol:
Me too :difus_jump

But hey, even Sedat confirms that SedatChess is a lottery :
Sedat wrote: ...Determining the strength of overall chess engines is just a mystery...
...Unpredictable (unbalanced) performances...
source
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deeds wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 3:05 pm ...At SedatChess, tourney's conditions only favor blunders due to shallow depths due to a lack of time/power...
No need to look far, there are tons of blunders in the games of the last SedatChess lottery (SCCT BOOK / NNUE CS 43) :

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What a circus !

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continuing...

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etc.

:arrow: The game results have absolutely no credibility :arrow: it's a blunder's lottery !
:arrow: The rankings have absolutely no credibility :arrow: but hey it's just for FUN !
:arrow: The tournament conditions are useless :arrow: SedatChess is a circus and Sedat is a clown !

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As the SedatChess circus attractions lost their appeal, we stopped responding to Sedat :
deeds wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 3:38 pm Reminder

Since you are the author of many proven lies and regularly display your ignorance about learning features / engine's trainers / EXP files / learning engines, if I stop responding to you, I am curious to see what will happen... Good luck !
But what happened since then ?

He started to whine :kangura_cry2
botunnet wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:09 pm
SedatCheat wrote: ...missed to mention my books...Sedat Canbaz's book releases Are NOT mentioned...they forget to mention that I am book author...be missed on Deeds list...my chess activities are tried to be Underestimated...
source
Then he decided to start from scratch :difus_fishing
deeds wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 3:40 pm
Sedat wrote: Image
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Then, without answers and lacking views, we can bet that he will bring out his old Depth4 attractions to save his circus... :lol:
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Some people starts to understand what Sedat does at SedatChess...
supernova wrote: ...Sedat’s emphasis on “strong openings” and bullet tests caters to a particular style of rating measurement...
source
supernova wrote: ...I think Sedat's logic is flawed...
...Testing derivative engines against the same, very similar engine is a waste of power and CPU...
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Other people still doesn't see that SedatChess is a circus :
Igbo wrote: ...Another thing I don't understand, and I've known him (=Sedat) for over 20 years, is the use of that Raubfish in book tournaments. I've analyzed many games a long time ago, and it gave a clear advantage, but that engine (=Raubfish) didn't, and many games were lost...
...Sedat is a friend, but sometimes, like all of us, he closes his eyes...
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deeds wrote: Sat May 03, 2025 7:41 pm Then, without answers and lacking views, we can bet that he will bring out his old Depth4 attractions to save his circus... :lol:
As expected : new Sedat's failure :!:

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Many doubts still persist at SedatChess !

:arrow: How is it that the most important actors of the chess community already have several EXP Depth4 files, while Sedat has none ?
MZ :
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:arrow: How is it that after so many failures, Sedat still believes that he will be able to match the EXP file's accuracy by creating a BIN book from training games ?


:arrow: Why compare a BIN book and an EXP file when we don't have the EXP file ?


:arrow: How is it that after 20 years of optimization, Sedat's own book also collapses quickly/easily ?
Perfect 2023 :
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:arrow: How is it that Sedat is as affected as the books are harmless to the engine's training ?


:arrow: What's the point of testing a BIN book created from EXP file's training games without using the openings used in training that EXP file ?


:arrow: How is it that Sedat fans say what they really think of him in restricted channels ?
supernova :
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igbo :
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