SedatChess

[Anton101]

There is no engine, there is no src, and we have to pay for it?, come on??? It´s a joke, right?

Are we talking about a magic code?

Let's be serious, Sedat. How are we going to test engines that don't meet the minimum licensing requirements and that also require a fee?

Best regards;

Question!?!
Who makes you pay?
No one makes you pay, everything is voluntary!
I personally do not tell you what and how to do in this life.
My work is private.
And personally I do not understand why you ask Mr. Sedat about my work and so on, Mr. Sedat is simply testing my private work and that's all, for which I am grateful to him.

Best regards.

I won't comment further. I only ask Sedat, with all due respect, not to involve what I compile against private engines. It gives off a nasty stench.

Best regards;

[Sedat Canbaz]

There is no engine, there is no src, and we have to pay for it?, come on??? It´s a joke, right?

Are we talking about a magic code?

Let's be serious, Sedat. How are we going to test engines that don't meet the minimum licensing requirements and that also require a fee?

Best regards;

@Mr. Anton CES

1st of all,
Sorry for late reply.. I was too busy latest days..

There is no engine,

Sorry again but here I never said that
All of my played engines are available!
And as same words are going for books..

there is no src,

Personally I do not care so so so much about it,
And If you going to ask my opinion, for my side:
I care much more about Stability and Strength!
Sure I hope all engines and books to be public/free
But in this subject, sometimes not all in my hands..

And just a few more notes.. since we talk about chess )
Interesting/strange to point out that e.g usually if X Top
Engine is buggy or poor in options (such as no book settings):
Then all of them have same bugs or so poor in settings too!

For examples, in case of gauntlet test via concurrent 68:
All learning engines are buggy, crushing immediately if
Playing via huge exp files, but up to 150-200 MB is safe..
Btw, my tournament machine has 256 GB memory ram,
I mean here ram can not be issue,e.g if testing exp with
up to 3 GB (in size) my machine has enough free memory..

Or as other bug example, unfortunately all CTG capable
Chess engines are still buggy under Arena, CuteChess..
And after so many releases, no 'hero' is fixed the bugs!

Meanwhile, is this all? not of course,
What about engines improvement strength?
E.g latest tour indicates that since a long time,
We can't see much better Elo points by many
Engines..that's why for future tours.. maybe,
I'd run similar 3800+ Tour after 3-5 months...

Otherwise, the recent tour's oldest engine:
SF-PR02 would not be Number One, right?

Regarding who of us have to be more 'serious',
Sure I will see where I can improve my job...but
Anyhow, I suggest to all Book + Eng authors as well,
Before releases.. to be stronger and more stable!

As final words,
You have to be in my shoes..to see what is going on...
If still not so clear, what is the point via SRC licence,
If the engines are buggy and no much improvements ?)
Sure no any regret but.. and hope helps !)

Greetings

[ZamChess]

All the best Sedat !

[Homayoun]

All the best Sedat !

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[Sedat Canbaz]

All the best Sedat !

+1

Thank you dear chess friends )

Best wishes,
Sedat

[Sedat Canbaz]

Hello Chess Friends,

Here is just another exciting NNUE championship!
Which will be started very soon, probably today..

And as Participants,
As far as possible with minimum 3700+ Elo points,
Mainly new vers but up to 40 MB (uncompressed)

Meanwhile,
Why SIZE rules are ON again? just for more fair cond.!
Otherwise, imagine e.g such as 5 MB Vs 100 MB or as
Other logical example, 48 kg Wrestler vs 120 kg Wrestler ?!)
Then I hardly doubt that the matches will be so fair..sure
Current cond. are not perfect...but if anyone has better
Tour ideas..just let Me know please.. thanks in advance )

And here are the planning Top chess engines:

Alexandria 8.0 by Zuppa, CJ and Contributors
Berserk 100325 by Jay Honnold
Caissa 1.21.7 by Michal Witanowski
Horsie 1.0 by Liam McGuire
Integral 7.0.0 by Aron Petkovski
KomodoDragon 3.2 by Komodo team
Neon Tetra 2.1 by Tanick Ramz, SF team
Obsidian 15.09 by Gabriele Lombardo
PlentyChess 5.0 by Yoshie2000
RubiChess 170824 by Andreas Matthies
SF-Mini 140325 by Anton Ces, SF team
Viridithas 16.0.0 by Cosmo

Good luck to all..

Greetings )

[Sedat Canbaz]

UPDATE

The current Leader: PlentyChess 5 - Congrats to Yoshie2000!

And it seems PlentyChess is improved a lot..anyhow no
Any idea what will be final results... since the tour is just
In beginning..e.g each player will consist min. 500 games

Note also that
I realized to include also Redfish 240122 (by SF team), where
I miss to install Neon Tetra 2.1... but it will be tested later...

And here are 1st LIVE results:

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 PlentyChess 5.0                51      35      62   57.3%   82.3% 
   2 Obsidian 15.09                 33      34      63   54.8%   84.1% 
   3 Berserk 100325                 27      23      64   53.9%   92.2% 
   4 Integral 7.0.0                 17      32      63   52.4%   85.7% 
   5 SF-Mini 140325                 11      27      61   51.6%   90.2% 
   6 Redfish 240122                 11      27      62   51.6%   90.3% 
   7 Caissa 1.21.7                  -5      24      64   49.2%   92.2% 
   8 Horsie 1.0                    -11      35      62   48.4%   83.9% 
   9 Alexandria 8.0                -16      31      65   47.7%   86.2% 
  10 RubiChess 170824              -17      34      60   47.5%   85.0% 
  11 K. Dragon 3.2                 -22      31      62   46.8%   87.1% 
  12 Viridithas 16                 -80      38      62   38.7%   77.4% 

375 of 3036 games finished.

[deeds]

We've reached the point of disagreement in almost all aspects!

Yes because you claimed this :

I will create a book, which will be tuned to prefer Depth4 Exp Series, played in latest months of 2025!

source

But when we compare the conformity of your Depth4 2025 BIN book with my Depth4 EXP file, none of your last 3 tests exceed 70% !

Only 65% ! for your test on March 13, 2025 :



Only 67% ! for your test on March 15, 2025 :



Only 64% ! for your test on March 16, 2025 :



Your book creation method has an error's margin greater than 30% !

Yet you had already been warned about this problem at SedatChess :
Rulleeeee_280723.exp

[Sedat Canbaz]

@ To Deeds

I repeat again, but as last time:
My created Depth4 2025 is a BIN book (not Exp)! so it
Will be madness, if its lines to be 100% same as EXP!

And I say again,
Depth4 2025 book is tuned to prefer the games, shared by you!
And it's named as it is..but never mind, since I do not plan to
Touch your databases anymore..but just in case..if you'll blame..
Then you know what will happen?! You'll loose much more than Me!
Moreover, this way (usually via blaming etc.) leads to nowhere!
Besides, I have no more free time to talk over and over!

About your warnings,
Listen, you're so new in my eyes and you have to learn a lot...
And be honest, be polite each time, before contacting anyone,
Because 'honesty is the best policy'

That's all exc. wishing good luck with your business,
But as I stated earlier: please stay far away from Me!

Au revoir )

[Sedat Canbaz]

UPDATE 2

PlentyChess 5 leads as before! but Obsidian, SF-Mini, Alexandria and Berserk
Are very serious candidates to be as next, new Number Ones/s...and I like it!
And I assume you too )

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 PlentyChess 5.0                30      17     265   54.3%   83.8% 
   2 Obsidian 15.09                 29      13     266   54.1%   89.5% 
   3 SF-Mini 140325                 27      14     267   53.9%   88.4% 
   4 Alexandria 8.0                 26      18     265   53.8%   81.9% 
   5 Berserk 100325                 25      16     267   53.6%   85.4% 
   6 Integral 7.0.0                 -1      18     265   49.8%   81.5% 
   7 K. Dragon 3.2                  -7      16     266   49.1%   84.6% 
   8 Redfish 240122                 -7      14     265   49.1%   89.1% 
   9 Caissa 1.21.7                 -10      16     268   48.5%   85.8% 
  10 Horsie 1.0                    -27      15     266   46.1%   86.1% 
  11 Viridithas 16                 -39      16     266   44.4%   85.0% 
  12 RubiChess 170824              -46      18     266   43.4%   80.8% 

1596 of 3036 games finished.