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Re: SedatChess

Post by APOCALYPSE » Mon Mar 17, 2025 11:16 pm

Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 7:33 pm
Breaking News (17.03.2025):
After one month period of time, here are another new series of 3800+ tours
Yes.. SF-PRO2: as even old-dated but still one of greatest, strong engines!
Where managed to be Number One even of both (Bullet + Blitz) tourneys!
On other hand, Stockfish 280225 dev's performance is impressive too plus
Good points come by Killfish etc.. about Hypnos 1.02, frankly I expected
Much more.. since M.Z is not bad in Eng programming..but if nothing else,
Hypnos is Hypnos and less drawish engine than all of current participants!
Ok chess friends that's all for now thank you for your interest, see you later

Grand Champion: SF-PRO - Congratulations to Apocalypse, SF team too!
Note: Exactly the same SF-PRO2 vers is already twice as Champion: LVII

FOR FINAL RANKING, GAMES:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... nnue-cs-61

Best,
Sedat
Thanks to Sedat and all the authors participating in the tournament 👍

Best regards.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:54 am

APOCALYPSE wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 11:16 pm
Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 7:33 pm
Breaking News (17.03.2025):
After one month period of time, here are another new series of 3800+ tours
Yes.. SF-PRO2: as even old-dated but still one of greatest, strong engines!
Where managed to be Number One even of both (Bullet + Blitz) tourneys!
On other hand, Stockfish 280225 dev's performance is impressive too plus
Good points come by Killfish etc.. about Hypnos 1.02, frankly I expected
Much more.. since M.Z is not bad in Eng programming..but if nothing else,
Hypnos is Hypnos and less drawish engine than all of current participants!
Ok chess friends that's all for now thank you for your interest, see you later

Grand Champion: SF-PRO - Congratulations to Apocalypse, SF team too!
Note: Exactly the same SF-PRO2 vers is already twice as Champion: LVII

FOR FINAL RANKING, GAMES:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... nnue-cs-61

Best,
Sedat
Thanks to Sedat and all the authors participating in the tournament 👍

Best regards.
Not at all, it's my pleasure

And well-done again..

Keep up the good work

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Anton101 » Tue Mar 18, 2025 1:35 am

There is no engine, there is no src, and we have to pay for it?, come on??? It´s a joke, right?

Are we talking about a magic code?

Let's be serious, Sedat. How are we going to test engines that don't meet the minimum licensing requirements and that also require a fee?

Best regards;

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Re: SedatChess

Post by APOCALYPSE » Tue Mar 18, 2025 3:15 am

Anton101 wrote:
Tue Mar 18, 2025 1:35 am
There is no engine, there is no src, and we have to pay for it?, come on??? It´s a joke, right?

Are we talking about a magic code?

Let's be serious, Sedat. How are we going to test engines that don't meet the minimum licensing requirements and that also require a fee?

Best regards;
Question!?!
Who makes you pay?
No one makes you pay, everything is voluntary!
I personally do not tell you what and how to do in this life.
My work is private.
And personally I do not understand why you ask Mr. Sedat about my work and so on, Mr. Sedat is simply testing my private work and that's all, for which I am grateful to him.

Best regards.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Anton101 » Tue Mar 18, 2025 4:10 am

Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 10:44 pm
Anton101 wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:23 pm
Hi Mr Sedat, thank you very much for the tour.

Where can we download this SF PRO, with SRC included, I imagine?

Best regards;
Hello dear Anton,

Not at all.. its my pleasure )
And thanks a lot for your great work as well..

Well, APOCALYPSE thread is here, so you can ask /contact:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3643

Greetings
I don't mean to offend your intelligence, APOCALYPSE, but it's crystal clear that's why I made my comments and made my obvious questions. I suggest you read it before lighting the fuse.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Anton101 » Tue Mar 18, 2025 4:22 am

APOCALYPSE wrote:
Tue Mar 18, 2025 3:15 am
Anton101 wrote:
Tue Mar 18, 2025 1:35 am
There is no engine, there is no src, and we have to pay for it?, come on??? It´s a joke, right?

Are we talking about a magic code?

Let's be serious, Sedat. How are we going to test engines that don't meet the minimum licensing requirements and that also require a fee?

Best regards;
Question!?!
Who makes you pay?
No one makes you pay, everything is voluntary!
I personally do not tell you what and how to do in this life.
My work is private.
And personally I do not understand why you ask Mr. Sedat about my work and so on, Mr. Sedat is simply testing my private work and that's all, for which I am grateful to him.

Best regards.
I won't comment further. I only ask Sedat, with all due respect, not to involve what I compile against private engines. It gives off a nasty stench.

Best regards;

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Re: SedatChess

Post by APOCALYPSE » Tue Mar 18, 2025 4:36 am

Anton101 wrote:
Tue Mar 18, 2025 4:22 am
APOCALYPSE wrote:
Tue Mar 18, 2025 3:15 am
Anton101 wrote:
Tue Mar 18, 2025 1:35 am
There is no engine, there is no src, and we have to pay for it?, come on??? It´s a joke, right?

Are we talking about a magic code?

Let's be serious, Sedat. How are we going to test engines that don't meet the minimum licensing requirements and that also require a fee?

Best regards;
Question!?!
Who makes you pay?
No one makes you pay, everything is voluntary!
I personally do not tell you what and how to do in this life.
My work is private.
And personally I do not understand why you ask Mr. Sedat about my work and so on, Mr. Sedat is simply testing my private work and that's all, for which I am grateful to him.

Best regards.
I won't comment further. I only ask Sedat, with all due respect, not to involve what I compile against private engines. It gives off a nasty stench.

Best regards;
What a stink — you allow yourself to blab too much with your tongue :!:

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Re: SedatChess

Post by deeds » Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:21 am

honest_people wrote: Chris, it's weird but pollution gives results !?

Look at this another Canbaz's confession :
Sedat wrote: ...If played by TCEC suite, in Deeds database, should be TCEC name etc...
source

collective of honest people.
Incredible, finally he begins to understand !

I always clearly indicated wich opening list was used to train my Depth4 EXP files :

From the first book
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To the last book
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Ok guys, i will update :

*Sedat's mistakes :
- opening moves played by the GUI don't come from the EXP file

To

Sedat's confessions :
- opening moves played by the GUI don't come from the EXP file

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Re: SedatChess

Post by deeds » Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:23 am

Sedat wrote: I will create a book, which will be tuned to prefer
Depth4 Exp Series, played in latest months of 2025!
As long as Sedat does not understand his mistakes*, we all pollute his topics with evidence that his Depth4 books don't represent my Depth4 EXP files :

In this position, the Sedat's book is tuned to prefer the "7...a6" move :

Image

But my Depth4 EXP files have never played this move !

It's only one of the moves of the 40th opening of the TCEC_Season_22_Superfinal opening list :

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "?"]
[Round "000040"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[ECO "B77"]
[PlyCount "16"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be3 Bg7 7. f3 a6 8. Qd2 Nbd7 *


DeeDs + collective of honest people.

*Sedat's mistakes :
- at training, the moves are evaluated by the engine so they can be different than the moves contained in the EXP file
- at training, the learning feature allows the engine to try other moves than the bestmoves so training games contain engine's blunders
- training games don't represent the strength of an engine
- training games don't represent the accuracy of an EXP file
- the sole person responsible for the content of a book is its author
- EXP files (and opening books) have no strength (no ELO), they only are database

Sedat's confessions :
- opening moves played by the GUI don't come from the EXP file #1
- books created from training games can't represent an EXP file #1, #2

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Re: SedatChess

Post by deeds » Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:25 am

Sedat wrote: I will create a book, which will be tuned to prefer
Depth4 Exp Series, played in latest months of 2025!
As long as Sedat does not understand his mistakes*, we all pollute his topics with evidence that his Depth4 books don't represent my Depth4 EXP files :

Why did the Sedat's book play the move "3.Nf3" which has such a low weight (3) ?

Image

Because Sedat himself recommends "best move off" :

Image

DeeDs + collective of honest people.

*Sedat's mistakes :
- at training, the moves are evaluated by the engine so they can be different than the moves contained in the EXP file
- at training, the learning feature allows the engine to try other moves than the bestmoves so training games contain engine's blunders
- training games don't represent the strength of an engine
- training games don't represent the accuracy of an EXP file
- the sole person responsible for the content of a book is its author
- EXP files (and opening books) have no strength (no ELO), they only are database

Sedat's confessions :
- opening moves played by the GUI don't come from the EXP file #1
- books created from training games can't represent an EXP file #1, #2

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