SedatChess

[Sedat Canbaz]

@To honest people

Deeds is lost his compass again, moreover since
Several months he was not my chess threads..and
What happened that now came via multiply posts ))

On other hand,
Did you ever see Me (in latest months) to replay him?
Or to be on Deeds threads..NO..but he is here again:
Sedat, Sedat, Sedat )) I can understand if nowadays..
But since 2022, he is frequently mentioning my name..
On he is on my chess threads... And I wonder why?
Maybe his target to increase his Depth sales ?))

It's true that I test everything, what I like...because
I am free since I am born.. .and I shall remain so..
And what kind of madman will put Me in chains?

And now what? Or anything more else? perhaps
Do I need to ask for a permission from Deeds, such as,
Before creating or running any book or exp duels etc?
Who is this guy? coming as best expert or troll here ))

And each time, he tries to be a teacher. but it seems
He forgot already that he is in tests since 2021 etc.
Good...but not enough time to pass the PRO barrier !)

By the way,
Perhaps I am wrong and he is right.. who knows ?)
Maybe he knows everything 'perfectly' about all ?

But anyhow there is one true, many times I proved that
He has no clue over, just a few examples, as reminder:
Deeds said small hashtables (32 mb or 64 mb) are bad
For Bullet, 1 Core etc. I proved that Deeds is wrong..
Where according to my strength tests, the mentioned
Hash sizes performed better than larger sizes...

He said also that I use Bullet TC as without increment,
I proved to all that he is wrong..where it's a Chassbase
Bug..due to I work from PGN to CBH to PGN...

Moreover, but as most funny news was that (for my side),
Deeds blamed Me also that such as I'm bad book maker ))
Here no comments by my side..Exception: records available!!
And I'm not going to count all due I may miss but too many
Books are created freely and successfully by my hands!
And is this all? Not of course..I managed to test them with
So many games (per player) Btw, if anyone has better/ greater
Records than Me...just let Me know please...

And is this all? regarding Deeds's bullshit over and over ?)
Not of course..e.g Deeds said such as if default (in training mode),
The EXP engines perform worse but I proved that he is wrong again
Where even default: many performed better or as in tourney mode...

He said also (in 2023) that Eman is best (in learning) but I proved
Deeds is wrong again, e.g based on tests, RapTora was better than all!
And as most important, RapTora was so stable on my tournament machine!
But I admit too, all learning eng still buggy, crushing..I mean if playing via
HUGE Exp files (sure in parallel matches) but up to 150- 200 MB are safe!

There are many more examples I may give, where Deeds was wrong etc.
But I think it is enough mentioning over...e.g such as fake accounts ))

And once more,
Who said that Deeds work is great in chess ?
Maybe in theirs dreams...but on this planet:
Deeds is far away to be so...because to be sure:
Facts required via serious tours (not Bla Bla Bla) !
Prove here that I'm wrong...if you can't.. please !
I have more important things to do...thank you

And hope helps )

Best,
Sedat

[deeds]

Hi Chris, it seems that Mr. Canbaz has understood one of his mistakes :

...Moreover, I never said that older Depth4 2023 or 2025 book are Exactly same as Depth4 exp series..there is no such thing...

source

collective of honest people.

Ok good news, i will update :

Sedat's mistakes :
- books created from training games can't represent an EXP file

To

Sedat's confessions :
- Sedat's Depth4 books are not exactly same as DeeDs Depth4 EXP files.

[deeds]

I will create a book, which will be tuned to prefer
Depth4 Exp Series, played in latest months of 2025!

As long as Sedat does not understand his mistakes*, we all pollute his topics with evidence that his Depth4 books don't represent my Depth4 EXP files :

According to the official Depth4 EXP database (8184 games), no game contains the "7...Be7" move of Sedat's book in this position :



DeeDs + collective of honest people.

*Sedat's mistakes :
- opening moves played by the GUI don't come from the EXP file
- at training, the moves are evaluated by the engine so they can be different than the moves contained in the EXP file
- at training, the learning feature allows the engine to try other moves than the bestmoves so training games contain engine's blunders
- training games don't represent the strength of an engine
- training games don't represent the accuracy of an EXP file
- books created from training games can't represent an EXP file
- the sole person responsible for the content of a book is its author
- EXP files (and opening books) have no strength (no ELO), they only are database

Sedat's confessions :
- Sedat's Depth4 books are not exactly same as DeeDs Depth4 EXP files.

[deeds]

I will create a book, which will be tuned to prefer
Depth4 Exp Series, played in latest months of 2025!

As long as Sedat does not understand his mistakes*, we all pollute his topics with evidence that his Depth4 books don't represent my Depth4 EXP files :

According to the official Depth4 EXP database (8184 games), only one game contains the "4...b6" move of Sedat's book in this position :



Here is this unique game played by one of my Depth 4 EXP files :

[Event "EXP VS BOOK"]
[Site "dual xeon e5-2660v3"]
[Date "2023.08.07"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Depth4_190623 (Eman 8.40)"]
[Black "Olisfish_040623 (Eman 8.40)"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C16"]
[GameDuration "00:04:51"]
[Opening "French"]
[PlyCount "178"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
[Variation "Winawer, Advance Variation"]

1. e4 {book} e6 {book} 2. d4 {+0.42/25 1.4s} d5 3. Nc3 {+0.47/28 3.7s} Bb4 4. e5 {+1.25/20 1.1s} b6 5. h4 {+2.04/29 3.1s} h5 {+1.83/28 6.6s}
6. Rh3 {+1.78/23 2.2s} Qd7 {+1.75/27 13s} 7. Be2 {+1.85/26 4.1s} Ba6 {+1.70/26 5.7s} 8. Bxh5 {+1.71/23 1.5s} c5 {+1.65/27 3.6s} ...

First, as we can see, the "4...b6" move was played by the "Olisfish_040623" BIN book, not by my Depth4 EXP files.

Second, why did the Sedat's book play the move "4...b6" which has such a low weight (5) ?



Because Sedat recommends "best move off"

DeeDs + collective of honest people.

*Sedat's mistakes :
- opening moves played by the GUI don't come from the EXP file
- at training, the moves are evaluated by the engine so they can be different than the moves contained in the EXP file
- at training, the learning feature allows the engine to try other moves than the bestmoves so training games contain engine's blunders
- training games don't represent the strength of an engine
- training games don't represent the accuracy of an EXP file
- books created from training games can't represent an EXP file
- the sole person responsible for the content of a book is its author
- EXP files (and opening books) have no strength (no ELO), they only are database

Sedat's confessions :
- Sedat's Depth4 books are not exactly same as DeeDs Depth4 EXP files.

[deeds]

I will create a book, which will be tuned to prefer
Depth4 Exp Series, played in latest months of 2025!

As long as Sedat does not understand his mistakes*, we all pollute his topics with evidence that his Depth4 books don't represent my Depth4 EXP files :

In this position, the Sedat's book is tuned to prefer the "5...d6" move :



But my Depth4 EXP files have never played this move

It's only one of the moves of the 36th opening of the TCEC_Season_22_Superfinal opening list :

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "?"]
[Round "000036"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[ECO "B75"]
[PlyCount "14"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 d6 6. Be3 Be7 7. g4 h6 *


Here are the corresponding training games :

[Event "EXP VS BOOK"]
[Site "dual xeon e5-2660v3"]
[Date "2025.02.15"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Depth4_120824 (Eman 8.40)"]
[Black "Brain_110323 (Eman 8.40)"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B40"]
[GameDuration "00:04:29"]
[Opening "Sicilian"]
[PlyCount "171"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
[Variation "Anderssen Variation"]

1. e4 {book} c5 {book} 2. Nf3 {book} e6 {book} 3. d4 {book} cxd4 {book}
4. Nxd4 {book} Nf6 {book} 5. Nc3 {book} d6 {book} 6. Be3 {book} Be7 {book}
7. g4 {book} h6 {book} 8. Qe2 {+2.12/28 5.1s} Nc6 {+2.07/28 7.7s}
9. O-O-O {+2.16/21 0.73s} Nxd4 {+2.02/24 2.3s} 10. Bxd4 {+2.22/27 1.7s}
Bd7 {+2.02/25 1.1s} 11. f3 {+2.17/28 2.3s} Rc8 {+2.04/27 2.4s} ...

As we can see, Eman 8.40 only starts to check/update its "Depth4_120824" EXP file at the 8th move.


[Event "EXP VS BOOK"]
[Site "dual xeon e5-2660v3"]
[Date "2025.02.15"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Brain_110323 (Eman 8.40)"]
[Black "Depth4_120824 (Eman 8.40)"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B40"]
[GameDuration "00:04:13"]
[Opening "Sicilian"]
[PlyCount "156"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
[Variation "Anderssen Variation"]

1. e4 {book} c5 {book} 2. Nf3 {book} e6 {book} 3. d4 {book} cxd4 {book}
4. Nxd4 {book} Nf6 {book} 5. Nc3 {book} d6 {book} 6. Be3 {book} Be7 {book}
7. g4 {book} h6 {book} 8. Qe2 {+1.93/25 3.4s} Bd7 {+2.21/27 7.7s}
9. f3 {+1.92/29 7.6s} Nc6 {+2.19/26 1.5s} 10. O-O-O {+2.09/24 1.1s}
Nxd4 {+2.15/26 5.7s} 11. Bxd4 {+2.17/26 1.9s} Rc8 {+2.21/25 3.8s}...

As we can see, Eman 8.40 only starts to check/use its "Brain_110323" BIN book at the 8th move.


I always clearly indicated wich opening list was used to train my Depth4 EXP files :


source

DeeDs + collective of honest people.

*Sedat's mistakes :
- opening moves played by the GUI don't come from the EXP file
- at training, the moves are evaluated by the engine so they can be different than the moves contained in the EXP file
- at training, the learning feature allows the engine to try other moves than the bestmoves so training games contain engine's blunders
- training games don't represent the strength of an engine
- training games don't represent the accuracy of an EXP file
- books created from training games can't represent an EXP file
- the sole person responsible for the content of a book is its author
- EXP files (and opening books) have no strength (no ELO), they only are database

Sedat's confessions :
- Sedat's Depth4 books are not exactly same as DeeDs Depth4 EXP files.

[Sedat Canbaz]

Hello Chess Friends,

As usually, I am very pleased to announce that
A new CS coming soon with min. 3800+ players!

Participants:
Artemis 10 TR
Corchess 280225
Contact 12 XL
HypnoS++ 1.02
Killfish 160325
Kookaburra 3.10
SF-PRO2 290125
Stockfish 280225

Some Notes:
- Only 1 (one) chess engine from same developer is allowed
- All engines are new and as first time are participating, exc.
SF-PRO2 290125 but due latest SF-PRO2 100325 is buggy e.g
Lost all games.. so I've switched to previous SF-PRO version
- Each participant will contain min. 1000 games (per player)

By the way,
Let Me say also please one of great sayings as well:
The winners are not popular, but losers often are.

Wishing good luck to all and please stay tuned soon updates )

Greetings

[Sedat Canbaz]

UPDATE 1

Here 1st LIVE standings and after 423 games, the oldest dated engine and
Released on 29.01.2025: SF-PRO2 is current Leader - Congrats to Apocalypse !

And for anyone missed,
Exactly the same SF-PRO2 290125 ver is one of the former Champs..

Note also that,
Artemis 10 TR uses the oldest evalfile which belongs to last year-2024!

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 SF-PRO2 290125                 14      11     423   52.0%   89.4% 
   2 Stockfish 280225               11      10     424   51.7%   91.0% 
   3 Killfish 160325                 7      10     422   50.9%   91.5% 
   4 Corchess 280225                 4      11     420   50.6%   89.3% 
   5 Contact 12 XL                   3      11     422   50.5%   88.2% 
   6 Artemis 10 TR                  -2       9     420   49.8%   92.4% 
   7 Kookaburra v3.10               -6      11     423   49.2%   88.4% 
   8 HypnoS++ 1.02                 -32      12     420   45.4%   86.4% 

1687 of 4200 games finished.

[Sedat Canbaz]

UPDATE 2

SF-PRO2 290125 still leads.. just impressive..!!

On other hand,
I was not sure to add current SF-PRO2 ver or not..
In short, I realized to be in.. in last minutes, before
Giving the tournament start..and if I cause about it ..
Then how happy I am as well.. )

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 SF-PRO2 290125                 12       9     707   51.7%   88.7% 
   2 Stockfish 280225                9       7     707   51.3%   91.4% 
   3 Killfish 160325                 6       7     706   50.8%   91.8% 
   4 Contact 12 XL                   4       9     704   50.6%   88.4% 
   5 Corchess 280225                 1       8     705   50.1%   90.9% 
   6 Kookaburra v3.10               -0       8     709   49.9%   89.7% 
   7 Artemis 10 TR                  -1       7     706   49.9%   91.5% 
   8 HypnoS++ 1.02                 -31       9     706   45.6%   86.7% 

2825 of 4200 games finished.

[deeds]

I will create a book, which will be tuned to prefer
Depth4 Exp Series, played in latest months of 2025!

As long as Sedat does not understand his mistakes*, we all pollute his topics with evidence that his Depth4 books don't represent my Depth4 EXP files :

According to the official Depth4 EXP database (8184 games), no game contains the "7...Be7" move of Sedat's book in this position :



DeeDs + collective of honest people.

*Sedat's mistakes :
- opening moves played by the GUI don't come from the EXP file
- at training, the moves are evaluated by the engine so they can be different than the moves contained in the EXP file
- at training, the learning feature allows the engine to try other moves than the bestmoves so training games contain engine's blunders
- training games don't represent the strength of an engine
- training games don't represent the accuracy of an EXP file
- books created from training games can't represent an EXP file
- the sole person responsible for the content of a book is its author
- EXP files (and opening books) have no strength (no ELO), they only are database

Sedat's confessions :
- Sedat's Depth4 books are not exactly same as DeeDs Depth4 EXP files.

[deeds]

I will create a book, which will be tuned to prefer
Depth4 Exp Series, played in latest months of 2025!

As long as Sedat does not understand his mistakes*, we all pollute his topics with evidence that his Depth4 books don't represent my Depth4 EXP files :

Why did the Sedat's book play the move "2.e3" which has such a low weight (7) ?



Because Sedat himself recommends "best move off" :



DeeDs + collective of honest people.

*Sedat's mistakes :
- opening moves played by the GUI don't come from the EXP file
- at training, the moves are evaluated by the engine so they can be different than the moves contained in the EXP file
- at training, the learning feature allows the engine to try other moves than the bestmoves so training games contain engine's blunders
- training games don't represent the strength of an engine
- training games don't represent the accuracy of an EXP file
- books created from training games can't represent an EXP file
- the sole person responsible for the content of a book is its author
- EXP files (and opening books) have no strength (no ELO), they only are database

Sedat's confessions :
- Sedat's Depth4 books are not exactly same as DeeDs Depth4 EXP files.