How about we have a little laugh ?

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Re: How about we have a little laugh ?

Post by sarona » Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:02 am

deeds wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:45 pm
When at SedatChess they claim that a SF clone targeted for correspondence analysis (=Corchess) is the best engine out there for tournanent play at bullet time controls (=TC 15 sec + 300 ms) :

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:difus_rofl :difus_rofl :difus_rofl
I see.

So by this, we are to assume that Stockfish development has regressed 14 Elo (only 1008 games using UHO book) since November 22, 2024? For the uninformed, Alex's SF-PB is Stockfish with polyglot book code added. No other modifications to the source.

I will believe Stefan Pohl's testing any day compared to this thing. The reason? See here (right on, Viz :D)
viewtopic.php?f=38&p=38990#p38974

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Re: How about we have a little laugh ?

Post by deeds » Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:13 pm

sarona wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:02 am
So by this, we are to assume that Stockfish development has regressed 14 Elo (only 1008 games using UHO book) since November 22, 2024 ?
For the uninformed, Alex's SF-PB is Stockfish with polyglot book code added. No other modifications to the source.
I am not convinced that this TD has realized its own contradictions :
- engine optimized for correspondence games better than stockfish at bullet
- engine optimized for UHO openings list (=low draw rate) better with UNIQUE openings list (=high draw rate)
- etc

Here are the best TD statements to make your day :
sedat wrote: ...
Sure in slower TC, situation is unpredictable
...
No much ways to appear blunder moves
...
Because without the clever fool guys, our hobby would not be boring ?
...
Such as everything, related that ends as draw is bad, not good Sorry to say,
but what kind of sick mentality can be of that ?
...
stop running your silly games on your own PCs,
because I think also that It's totally a waste of time
...
sources : #1, #2

:difus_rofl :difus_rofl :difus_rofl

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Re: How about we have a little laugh ?

Post by Celine2 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 4:05 pm

deeds wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:13 pm
sarona wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:02 am
So by this, we are to assume that Stockfish development has regressed 14 Elo (only 1008 games using UHO book) since November 22, 2024 ?
For the uninformed, Alex's SF-PB is Stockfish with polyglot book code added. No other modifications to the source.
I am not convinced that this TD has realized its own contradictions :
- engine optimized for correspondence games better than stockfish at bullet
- engine optimized for UHO openings list (=low draw rate) better with UNIQUE openings list (=high draw rate)
- etc

Here are the best TD statements to make your day :
sedat wrote: ...
Sure in slower TC, situation is unpredictable
...
No much ways to appear blunder moves
...
Because without the clever fool guys, our hobby would not be boring ?
...
Such as everything, related that ends as draw is bad, not good Sorry to say,
but what kind of sick mentality can be of that ?
...
stop running your silly games on your own PCs,
because I think also that It's totally a waste of time
...
sources : #1, #2

:difus_rofl :difus_rofl :difus_rofl
Honestly, it's tough to say if the 14 Elo drop is significant without more context, but the engine optimizations definitely seem to be causing some contradictions. As for the TD comments, it's always interesting when people get passionate about the details, but it feels like there's a bit of everything being said in the mix.

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Re: How about we have a little laugh ?

Post by deeds » Tue Feb 11, 2025 5:37 pm

Celine2 wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2025 4:05 pm
Honestly, it's tough to say if the 14 Elo drop is significant without more context, but the engine optimizations definitely seem to be causing some contradictions. As for the TD comments, it's always interesting when people get passionate about the details, but it feels like there's a bit of everything being said in the mix.
Nowhere on the planet is a F1 more efficient off-road than a Jeep. At SedatChess :arrow: it's usual. :lol:

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Re: How about we have a little laugh ?

Post by deeds » Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:59 pm

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