personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

[Sedat Canbaz]

@ For honest, talented authors (for anyone missed):

Check and Learn how can be powerful a Exp, which is
Played as without using a opening book and note also
Even much old-dated, released / belongs to 2023 year!

Code: Select all

Rank Name              Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   7 RapTora.exp ST   3642    9    9  1200   52%  3629   85% 

SOURCE:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... cs-1-large

More Details:
Easy to talk by amateurs (in our chess hobby)
Such as 'meaningless' to test Exp vs Books etc.
But they forget 'SCCT' is still exist! And
Since 1997-98 years..sure everyone is free
To believe it or not..but data is available!
Including almost all tour games as well!
Sure I refer here since 1997-1998 years!

What I can add more,
Someone/s may try to 'fool' others who are new.. but
Just don't try to 'fool' the experienced people here!!
Btw, I'm a businessman (not only as TD) and over long
Past years (since 1994-2024) for Me worked hundreds of
Employers... In other words, not so much but I think
Enough experience to see a bit about what's going on!

And and again, I wish to say:
Just because is very hard, try
New ideas..try new hardwares etc.
But please just do not give up !!


Best,
Sedat

[Sedat Canbaz]

@ to Homayoun

1st of all,
I wish to say many thanks for your lessons giving to Deeds!

But anyhow I'm afraid to say also that,
Deeds will never learn..as before, he will accuse, attack many ..
Just because who has different views (than him), reality is reality!

Btw, just now I remembered,
Deeds is attacked other honest testers too: Peter Grayson, Fritz User..
I mean Deeds's lengthy record is so bad that I've difficulties to mention!

On other hand, a new idea is born,
It will be great to be requested a medical certificate,
Plus judicial report etc from programmers, especially who
Is Unknown in our chess hobby! why I say like that?

Because I strongly believe in this way,
Many honest people will suffer less...!

To be more clear, No one has the right to violate:
1. Registering via fake accounts on forums and later attacking..
2. Without real facts + true arguments to accuse someone as Liar
3. Without permission: to edit private files (exp, book, engine..)
4. Without permission: testing books (with non suggested settings)
5. Without real facts etc. to accuse someone as bad book maker
In this case, e.g all we noticed here..what Deeds said about Me

As a final note,
Here in Turkey (not sure about France): the lows are very strict,
Just for accusing as Liar (without facts) or registering via fake
Accounts etc. and attacking...there are serious prison sentences!

Of course, after all,
Time will tell...who knows? maybe one day my dream will become true!

Best,
Sedat

[Homayoun]

Hi Sedat
The only thing that I admitted here was that deeds has great and maybe unique knowledge about learning features in chess engines and also he has personal intelligence (just my opinion). But I never told that everything he says is completely right. About his personal behavior including fake accounts, disrespectful behavior with others, using bad words like liars, I have serious problems with him. I can’t accept no one of his reasons to insult others. I want to mention to something too: The word “meaningless “ that I used is not accurate. I would better to say” it’s better to test an exp file with other exp files and test a book with other books”(again my opinion, may be wrong). I want to confirm : I have serious problems with deeds behavior with other members.
Best regards Sedat

[Martin_1969]

Good luck to use an EXP file with contains Eman's scores with SF-FB from 09/28/24 !

Oh boy, what are YOU talking about?
BYE

viewtopic.php?f=38&t=4173&start=50#p37871
You said you had good performance with SF-PB with a book created from Eman/C-dragon games.
But you didn't try the same engine (=SF-PB) with the EXP file created by Eman during these same games.
That's why i answered : "Good luck to use an EXP file with a non-learning engine (=SF-PB) which has different evaluation than the engine used to create the EXP file (=Eman)

Oh little boy, what are you talking about?

[deeds]

Reminder :

Sedat renamed EXP file :
evidence #1
evidence #2
evidence #3

Tourneys at fixed shallow depth are a lottery :
evidence #1
evidence #2

[deeds]

Good luck to use an EXP file with contains Eman's scores with SF-FB from 09/28/24 !

Oh boy, what are YOU talking about?
BYE

viewtopic.php?f=38&t=4173&start=50#p37871
You said you had good performance with SF-PB with a book created from Eman/C-dragon games.
But you didn't try the same engine (=SF-PB) with the EXP file created by Eman during these same games.
That's why i answered : "Good luck to use an EXP file with a non-learning engine (=SF-PB) which has different evaluation than the engine used to create the EXP file (=Eman)

Oh little boy, what are you talking about?

viewtopic.php?p=37890#p37890

[Martin_1969]

Of course I also let C_ Dragon play against SF_PB with a book. But I stopped after 210 games because the result was clear: 63.1: 36.9 for SF-PB!
It is a waste of time to play more games
games are here: https://uploadnow.io/files/HcMcRHs
and bye,bye little boy

[deeds]

...
The only thing that I admitted here was that deeds has great and maybe unique knowledge about learning features in chess engines
...

All engine trainers and learning engines authors have this knowledge.
Others just don't want to talk about it in public !

...
also he has personal intelligence (just my opinion)
...

Your friend Sedat won't like this

[deeds]

I talked about the behavior of Sedat and Oliprog as TDs unskilled people at EXP files / learning engines talked about my behavior here is the behavior of Homayoun as supporter of these people :

I understood that an experience file can help as a great assistant to modify lines and variants in chess openings.
It can be a great complement for books too , because you can creat innovative moves with experience file.
So a match between a book and experience file is meaningless.
Because an experience file can be a superior complement for a book or a bookmaker too.
Also we shouldn’t apply an engine with its experience file( on mode) in tournaments for measuring it’s strength , only the content and quality of an experience file is important.
These are true?

Hi Sedat
The only thing that I admitted here was that deeds has great and maybe unique knowledge about learning features in chess engines and also he has personal intelligence (just my opinion).
But I never told that everything he says is completely right.
About his personal behavior including fake accounts, disrespectful behavior with others, using bad words like liars, I have serious problems with him.
I can’t accept no one of his reasons to insult others.
I want to mention to something too: The word “meaningless “ that I used is not accurate.
I would better to say” it’s better to test an exp file with other exp files and test a book with other books”(again my opinion, may be wrong).
I want to confirm : I have serious problems with deeds behavior with other members.
Best regards Sedat

As is often the case with Sedat's supporters, they too have questionable behavior.

[deeds]

Reminder :

Oliprog's unfair tourney settings :
evidence
reiteration #1 : Eman 8.03
reiteration #2 : Eman 8.03
reiteration #3 : Eman 8.10
reiteration #4 : Eman 8.10
...