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OrgZ
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Re: SedatChess

Post by OrgZ » Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:59 pm

Not at all Dear Sedat. you are welcome to choose any competitor you are the organizer by the way. i was just stating that 3.0 is stronger ;)

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Mon Oct 07, 2024 9:22 pm

OrgZ wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:59 pm
Not at all Dear Sedat. you are welcome to choose any competitor you are the organizer by the way. i was just stating that 3.0 is stronger ;)
Agreed here that v3 is stronger than v3.1
Btw, any opinions why ?) because when
I see older to be stronger.. I am going to
Think that there is something wrong in tour ..

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Mon Oct 07, 2024 9:23 pm

UPDATE 4

Well, more Champions 2024 are planning to be played,
Sure the Top ones, which are close to 3800+ Elo points..

In other words,
In the end, each player will contain min 1500+ games
In this way, I expect to see less 'error margin' as well
Otherwise..you know already..running small number,
Such as 100-300-500 games is lottery to see the best!

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Corrchess 071223      I. Ivec                XLVII
Kookaburra 2          Dorsz                  XLVII
Killfish 270224       Anton Ces              XLVII
Killfish 190324       Anton Ces              XLIX
Stockfish 16.1        Stockfish Team         L
SF-Poly 020624        Tanick Ramz            LI 2nd
SF-PB 120624          Skynet (Alex)          LII
Stockfish 220923      SF team                Medium Size I
Source:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... eng-champs

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Mon Oct 07, 2024 10:32 pm

UPDATE 5

1st of all,
Who said that latest SOLIDOR is weaker than real mother..?)
Why I say like that? recently the SOLIDOR's author claim that
Latest Stockfish is best... maybe this is true or maybe not..
After all, time will tell...

And as before,
Corchess 170924 leads.. impressive..just behind is Kookaburra 3,
In 3rd rank is SOLIDOR 180924 not so bad too...

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Rank Name               Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Corchess 170924   3817    4    4  1080   52%  3808   92% 
   2 Kookaburra 3      3815    4    4  1080   51%  3808   94% 
   3 SOLIDOR 180924    3814    4    4  1080   51%  3808   94% 
   4 Rems MPV Sep24    3813    4    4  1080   51%  3808   92% 
   5 MagicKnight       3813    4    4  1080   51%  3808   92% 
   6 Fidelio 17 MPV    3813    4    4  1080   51%  3808   94% 
   7 SF-PB 280924 SC   3813    4    4  1080   51%  3808   93% 
   8 SF-PB 280924      3813    4    4  1080   51%  3808   93% 
   9 C-Dragon v3.0     3812    4    4  1080   51%  3808   93% 
  10 Stockfish 17      3812    4    4  1080   51%  3808   93% 
  11 Brainlearn 29     3812    4    4  1080   51%  3808   94% 
  12 SF-Ivec 170924    3811    4    4  1080   51%  3808   93% 
  13 Killfish 280624   3810    4    4  1080   50%  3808   92% 
  14 Stockfish 041024  3809    4    4  1080   50%  3808   93% 
  15 Artemis 2TR       3809    4    4  1080   50%  3808   93% 
  16 SF-PRO 021024     3809    4    4  1080   50%  3808   92% 
  17 Marauders 3.9     3808    4    4  1080   50%  3809   93% 
  18 SF-POLY 210924a   3807    4    4  1080   50%  3809   94% 
  19 JigSaw 6.0        3803    4    4  1080   49%  3809   93% 
  20 ShashChess 36     3802    4    4  1080   49%  3809   92% 
  21 Stockfish 17 w32  3763    3    3  1080   37%  3811   74% 

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:31 am

UPDATE 6

1st. according to current SCCT (30s+0.5s) tour,
SF17 is about +2 Elo better than SF 041024 dev!
What does it mean? sure that means in my eyes:
Not always as newer better...! sad but true..!

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Rank Name               Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
  11 Stockfish 17      3811    4    4  1512   51%  3807   94% 
  17 Stockfish 041024  3809    4    4  1512   50%  3807   94% 
2nd NON-SCCT, according to abrok.eu:
https://abrok.eu/stockfish/?page=1

E.g based on theirs info.in almost every Stockfish dev releases..
They are mentioning serious Elo+ numbers, such as improvements!
Is this can be true ? maybe on their tests...at least there is one true:
Theirs mentioned Elo+ points do not reflect to reality (in SCCT)!
What I can suggest to SF team:
Start using better /stronger opening lines...with better quality games..
And then we can compare...otherwise, what they do: is waste of time!

Btw,
Soon I hope to share the latest full rankings
On SedatChess site..so please stay tuned )

Greetings

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Tue Oct 08, 2024 3:55 pm

Breaking News (08.10.2024):
Current championship is over...Congrats and many thanks to all authors!
What I can say more over: have a great day and enjoy with latest results

LIV's Champion: Corchess 170924 - Congratulations to Ivec, SF Team!

For FINAL Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... nn-cs-54_1

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/rkwAkS4A#OFh9Zh26c ... yreK45OnWU

Greetings )

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Homayoun » Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:50 am

Thank you very much. :difus_19

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Oct 09, 2024 2:14 pm

Homayoun wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:50 am
Thank you very much. :difus_19
Not at all )

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Oct 10, 2024 9:43 am

Update

As usually, I am very pleased to announce that
Another NEW Blitz (2m+1s) started..with Top
Players 3812+ Elo of recent NN LIV CS, be aware
Only one participant from same author is allowed
Exc . Rem is updated with new vers.. plus former
Champion: Killfish 280624 ie entered as well...
Reason, due to Winner of latest Blitz NN LIII CS!
Sure there are many other former Champions, but
I strongly believe that they have no much chances!
For these reasons, my target to include the ones,
Which are potential to win.. otherwise, I see no
Point to include them, since the goal to see best,
Strongest, sure I refer for the ongoing tournament!

As Book Openings,
As usual, a newer,updated Unique suite vers. is used,
Which is highly tuned for both sides (White + Black)
You may know, chess is a game for 'two' players...and
Who said that using strong suite is not ideal way ?)
These guys are wrong here...forcing the engines with
Unusual, handicapped lines are madness too! really!!
Especially in case of serious tournaments, just saying...

By the way, for anyone missed, as I started earlier:
Anyone is free... just please think more deeply over
These issues...because if not using strong openings
Repertoire..will be a BIG miss, right ? if I am wrong,
Please correct Me here.. thanks in advance !

Meanwhile, via Blitz: too many draws are expecting ?
Yes, of course, but better draw than to loose, right ?)
And once more, just in case of using these how do they
Since 2020: unbalanced openings, where I say for them
Bad, handicapped etc..and just in case .then be sure
Thousands of games (per player) required..sorry here..
In area where I live: the electricity is not so cheap!)
Plus my efforts, hardware as well, reality is reality!

Note also that
Each Top player will contain over than 500+ games!
Sure if running more games will be better, anyhow
even these cond. can be counted as serious tourney!

And here are 1st played results, where my SC leads!
We will see.... after all, time will tell 'last' word !!

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 SF-PB 280924 SC                13      13     137   51.8%   94.9% 
   2 C-Dragon v3.0                   5      12     139   50.7%   95.7% 
   3 Stockfish 17                    5      10     140   50.7%   97.1% 
   4 Corchess 170924                 2      19     140   50.4%   89.3% 
   5 SOLIDOR 180924                  0      12     137   50.0%   95.6% 
   6 Brainlearn 29                   0      14     138   50.0%   94.2% 
   7 Rems M 091024                  -2      20     139   49.6%   87.8% 
   8 Kookaburra 3                   -5      14     139   49.3%   94.2% 
   9 Killfish 280624                -7      11     140   48.9%   96.4% 
  10 SF-PB 120624                  -10      12     139   48.6%   95.7% 

694 of 2700 games finished.
On other hand, you know already also that,
I never play for 2nd place, e.g in previous Bullet, my used
NN file was not so lucky..but now is currently NUMBER ONE!
That means a lot..but here there is a problem..just in case..
In SCCT (since 2007), I never tittle my work as 'Champion'
Here I may have troubles...what do you suggest? I mean that
If SF-PB 280924 SC will become Champ..? Any opinions ?


Wishing good luck to all and please stay tuned )

Greetings

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Oct 10, 2024 10:22 am

UPDATE 2

LIVE RANKİNG (after 1442 games): SF-PB 280924 SC still leads, with clear margin!!
Can we say already or it's too early to say: a new star is born ?) Yes.. according to
My experiences..it's time to announce that it's a star, but belongs to brightest ones!

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 SF-PB 280924 SC                12       9     226   51.8%   95.6% 
   2 Corchess 170924                 5      14     229   50.7%   90.0% 
   3 C-Dragon v3.0                   3       9     228   50.4%   95.6% 
   4 Brainlearn 29                   3      11     228   50.4%   93.9% 
   5 SOLIDOR 180924                  2      10     228   50.2%   95.2% 
   6 Stockfish 17                    0       9     228   50.0%   95.6% 
   7 SF-PB 120624                   -5      11     231   49.4%   94.4% 
   8 Rems M 091024                  -6      14     230   49.1%   90.4% 
   9 Killfish 280624                -6       8     227   49.1%   96.5% 
  10 Kookaburra 3                   -8      11     229   48.9%   94.3% 

1142 of 2700 games finished.

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