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Homayoun
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Homayoun » Sat Aug 03, 2024 8:48 pm

Great tournament. Thank you very much Sedat. Although Koivisto hasn’t been updated for more than one year but it’s result wasn’t so bad. Better than viridithas, uralochka and some other new engines. Koivisto was very good engine. I hope koivisto authors resume updating the engine.
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:03 pm

Homayoun wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2024 8:48 pm
Great tournament. Thank you very much Sedat. Although Koivisto hasn’t been updated for more than one year but it’s result wasn’t so bad. Better than viridithas, uralochka and some other new engines. Koivisto was very good engine. I hope koivisto authors resume updating the engine.
Best regards
Not at all Homayoun )

A good point!

Yes I'm amazed at Koivisto's performance too, but not being..
It's impossible, besides as old-dated, released 1.5 years ago!

Sure as same words are going for Ditto 130221 as well and
Iı's one of the oldies for example released 3.5 years ago!

But however, after all:
If you want to increase your chances of success on Everest,
Newer and stronger ideas, updates are required for sure..
Where Berserk 13 is managed to do that...with 3775 Elo !!

Greetings

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:39 am

Hello Chess Friends,

Meanwhile, I'd like to inform all of you also that
SCCT NN CS conditions are going to be changed!

In short, next future tours are planing to be played
Into 'SIZE'' CS Leagues, since 'NN size' matters a lot..!
Sure not always... but if I'm going to check in overall,
I admit that the well-tuned and larger Evalfiles play as
Significant role, with clear advantage over smaller ones!

Actually this is nothing new in SCCT..depending on tours,
Size rules used since a long time... besides for these
Reasons, the well-known sports Boxing, Wrestling etc.
Are organizing under 'Weight' categories.. right ?

In other words,
It's time for more frequent Fair Fight Battles !!
Btw, as other good example is recent organized LIV,
Where all Top engines used up to 25 MB Evalfiles!
But now, via the new size rules, more entries will
Participate too..otherwise there will be BIG miss!

And to be more clear, the planning new/future
SCCT NN tours will consist 3 (three) Leagues:

Small = Up to 25 MB
Medium = 26 - 60 MB
Large = 61 MB +

Note also that, soon as possible:
Medium and Large championships will be organized as well!

Small CS is already organized, so it's not required... at
Least for nowadays but later..in case of newer versions
Why not again...?!

And as final words, let Me say also this saying over, when
FAST, FAIR FIGHT, FUN, STABILITY, STRENGTH, TIME on scene,
The rest factors, influences etc. do not matter so much!
Of course I am talking for my side...not sure about you!?

FAST = Powerful, modern fast hardware
FAIR FIGHT = Playing in SIZE categories
FUN = Fast Bullet + Unique opening suite
STABILITY = No time loses, crashes etc.
STRENGTH = Mainly 3500+ Elo NN engines
TIME = Organizing frequent/many tours...


Best,
Sedat

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Mon Aug 05, 2024 6:14 pm

UPDATE

Finely, I've managed to start the planning Medium CS (26 MB - 60 MB)
But I admit too SIZE CS are one of hardest tours that I ever organized...
Sure I'm referring for my side... at least I can say: a lot of details...
But just for Computer Chess's progress and it's ok...no any regret !)
If nothing else...now you have some info...that it's not so easy...
Actually if these tours were easy... everyone would run it, right ?

Current Leading Engine: SF Polyglot 15.1 - Congrats to Massimiliano Goi!

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 SF Polyglot 15.1               96      42      78   63.5%   67.9% 
   2 Stockfish 220923               86      39      82   62.2%   70.7% 
   3 Genko 1.1                      77      39      83   60.8%   71.1% 
   4 XTD 010723                     72      36      83   60.2%   74.7% 
   5 LittleBeast 2                  70      39      80   60.0%   72.5% 
   6 BlueMarlin 15.7                68      35      83   59.6%   75.9% 
   7 Yuliirma 2.1                   64      37      82   59.1%   74.4% 
   8 Polyfish 070823                61      37      80   58.8%   75.0% 
   9 D. Blue 280623                 56      36      81   58.0%   76.5% 
  10 Raubfisch X48e                 52      35      81   57.4%   77.8% 
  11 Zeus 26.5                      51      36      82   57.3%   75.6% 
  12 Brainlearn 25.2                51      34      83   57.2%   78.3% 
  13 Fisherov M 1.2                 39      37      80   55.6%   76.3% 
  14 Honey v14.1.01                 34      41      81   54.9%   70.4% 
  15 CFishNN 260623                 17      45      81   52.5%   65.4% 
  16 K. Dragon 3.3                   0      39      79   50.0%   74.7% 
  17 Fat Fritz 2                   -60      45      82   41.5%   63.4% 
  18 Revenge 3.0                  -130      50      81   32.1%   54.3% 
  19 Igel 3.5.0                   -146      56      78   30.1%   47.4% 
  20 Arasan 24.2.2                -197      59      82   24.4%   41.5% 
  21 Booot 7.3                    -217      60      83   22.3%   39.8% 
  22 Black Marlin 9.0             -218      68      81   22.2%   32.1% 

893 of 11088 games finished.
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Note: Same Evalfiles are not allowed in the official contest..
So another newer Candidate tour is organized, the target to
Determine the best/strongest via nn-c38c3d8d3920.nnue !

And Polyfish 070823 wins 'nn-c38c3d8d3920.nnue' tour,
Congratulations to Polyfish's author (Khalid Omar) !

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1   Polyfish 070823  273.5/528
2   SF-PB 030923     271.5/528
3   RapTora 3.0      270.5/528
4   SF-POLY 220723   268.5/528
5   Corchess 240823  265.0/528
6   ProteusSF Aureo  259.5/528
7   CatroP 310723    239.5/528
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/CpITTDJC#qqtlrX-Lc ... x4gVMpsxCo

Note also that
I ran another test where CFishNN 260623 performed
Better/stronger than 2 (two) other Cfish eng versions..

And more updates soon )

Greetings

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:23 pm

UPDATE 2

Top standings changed..it seems hard to guess what will be next ranks..
Current Leading Engine: Stockfish 220923 - Congratulations to SF team!

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 Stockfish 220923               83      17     420   61.8%   72.1% 
   2 Yuliirma 2.1                   81      17     422   61.5%   70.9% 
   3 Brainlearn 25.2                81      16     419   61.5%   72.8% 
   4 Polyfish 070823                77      16     419   60.9%   73.5% 
   5 XTD 010723                     74      17     420   60.5%   72.4% 
   6 SF Polyglot 15.1               70      17     418   59.9%   71.5% 
   7 Zeus 26.5                      69      17     418   59.8%   72.2% 
   8 Genko 1.1                      68      17     419   59.7%   73.0% 
   9 BlueMarlin 15.7                65      17     421   59.3%   71.5% 
  10 D. Blue 280623                 65      17     419   59.2%   71.6% 
  11 LittleBeast 2                  59      15     417   58.4%   77.5% 
  12 Fisherov M 1.2                 45      16     418   56.5%   74.6% 
  13 Raubfisch X48e                 42      16     420   56.1%   75.0% 
  14 Honey v14.1.01                 41      19     418   55.9%   67.7% 
  15 K. Dragon 3.3                  14      18     419   52.0%   71.1% 
  16 CFishNN 260623                  4      20     419   50.6%   64.9% 
  17 Fat Fritz 2                   -63      21     419   41.1%   60.6% 
  18 Igel 3.5.0                   -150      24     418   29.7%   48.8% 
  19 Revenge 3.0                  -168      25     417   27.6%   44.1% 
  20 Black Marlin 9.0             -199      26     421   24.1%   40.1% 
  21 Arasan 24.2.2                -203      26     419   23.7%   40.3% 
  22 Booot 7.3                    -234      27     422   20.6%   37.0% 


4611 of 11088 games finished.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Tue Aug 06, 2024 5:41 pm

Breaking News (06.08.2024):
NNUE Size CS are still on... but this time, as players are 26 MB - 60 MB
Unfortunately in this league: not all of the Top engines are so stable..sad
For example, there are 31 games lost on time, mainly by Revenge 3 and
Black Marlin 9, sure for accurate standings: I replayed those lost games..
But anyhow, in case of interest..I've included them in download package..
On other hand, almost all rest engines are stable under these conditions!
You know.. no one's work is perfect, but however I suggest more serious
And various trainings, tests etc (before final releases) thanks in advance
While I was mentioning about the stability) I should not forget to mention
The strong performance by Stockfish, Polyfish, Brainlearn..nice! Sure
Many of current entries are old-dated, but quite new eng versions will be
In the next planing Large Size CS.. e.g will consist manly 2024 releases,
Which will be participated soon as possible as well..so please stay tuned )

NN Medium Size I's Champion: Stockfish - Congratulations to SF Team!

For FULL Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... edium-cs-1

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/u4pDgARZ#HjV1x8jph ... HybWfcHs2A

Best,
Sedat

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Homayoun » Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:26 am

Thank and congratulations to the winner author team too.
Best regards

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:33 am

Homayoun wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:26 am
Thank and congratulations to the winner author team too.
Best regards
You are welcome and + 1 :difus_19

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:42 am

Helle there )

As usually, I'm very pleased to announce that,
NNUE Candidate (Large Size) CS I is organized!
Actually even official contest is almost over..

Btw, in case of interest to submit, please read carefully:
- Per tour: 1 (one) public engine by same author is allowed
- Engines with same kind of evalfiles are not allowed, exc.
In case, via Candidate CS: the qualified player will be in..
- Unknown SF-based evalfiles are not allowed..for reference,
Simply will be used: https://tests.stockfishchess.org/nns

And here are Candidate (Large Size) CS I's results:
Congratulations to all, who managed to qualify...!

nn-31337bea577c.nnue: Corchess 040824 is the qualified player!

And as we see,
The latest Corchess ver. fully deserves to be in...right ?

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1   Corchess 040824   126.0 - 124.0127.5 - 122.5**   253.5/500
2   Stockfish 030824  124.0 - 126.0126.0 - 124.0 **  250.0/500
3   SF-PB 230724      122.5 - 127.5124.0 - 126.0  ** 246.5/500

nn-ddcfb9224cdb.nnue: Kookaburra 3 is the qualified player!

Here I admit that Kookaburra's performance is unbelievable!!
Sure I wonder too what kind of 'secrets' include Kokoburra?

Note also that
I checked several times regarding 1 Core etc. used or not...!
And be sure all of entries are played under same conditions..

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1   Kookaburra 3     +39/-17/=444 52.20%  261.0/500
2   Killfish 280624  +17/-39/=444 47.80%  239.0/500

nn-baff1edbea57.nnue: ShashChess 35.3 is the qualified player!

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1   ShashChess 35.3  +8/-6/=186 50.50%  101.0/200
2   Brainlearn 28.1  +6/-8/=186 49.50%   99.0/200

CSTal vs Rebel: CSTal 2.0.0 is the qualified player!

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1   CSTal 2.0.0  +28/-10/=162 54.50%  109.0/200
2   Rebel 16.3   +10/-28/=162 45.50%   91.0/200
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/n0JFXQxa#3lVsOvMZ0 ... x2mfCBob7U


Best,
Sedat

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Aug 07, 2024 7:18 pm

Breaking News (07.08.2024):
Well, NN Large Size (61 MB+) CS organized too...as players are picked
As far as possible 3700+ Elo e.g Minic 3.41 is tested too, but out due to
It's much weaker than current players..yes, Kookaburra is performed as
Real 'BEAST'' under these conditions! Unstoppable at least for nowadays!
And exception that managed as Number One again..besides, eliminated
Other very strong opponent (Killfish) during the Candidates CS, moreover
Kookaburra 3 is not so so new release.and it seems powerful moves may
Appear by older engines too, 2nd place: Stockfish dev..nice, where 3rd:
Marauders.. not bad as well..On other hand, after checking current stats,
It's clear all stable.. no any game to be lost on time in short, just great..
Btw, you may notice or not Small Size CS's Draws are 55% Medium: 65%
Large Size CS: 77%...in same that means Unique suite is more Drawish
Via Larger + Stronger NN data.. but I'm satisfied..and I assume you too?
Ok friends that's all for now, many thanks and congrats to all Eng Authors!

NN Large Size I's Champion: Kookaburra 3 - My Congratulations to Dorzs!
Note: exactly same Kookaburra vers managed to be Champ in older tours!

For FINAL / FULL Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... -size-cs-1

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/3pBDwBRB#wEdCaz__m ... hMDfBlIDRg

Best,
Sedat

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