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OrgZ
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Re: SedatChess

Post by OrgZ » Sat Jun 15, 2024 8:43 pm

Thanks Sedat
For private19sf you currently have Private19sf_002b, the other stronger variant is the publicly released one, when i gave you that one, Tom and Alex were working on some crazy parameters. at that moment when i gave you, your variant was stronger and better than its father. but later on new stronger parameters were tuned :lol:.
buts its ok Friend. lets give others a chance ;)

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2m+0.20s
Score of Private19Sf_002b vs Private19Sf_sse41: 14 - 17 - 219 [0.494]
...      Private19Sf_002b playing White: 8 - 6 - 111  [0.508] 125
...      Private19Sf_002b playing Black: 6 - 11 - 108  [0.480] 125
...      White vs Black: 19 - 12 - 219  [0.514] 250
Elo difference: -4.2 +/- 15.1, LOS: 29.5 %, DrawRatio: 87.6 %
250 of 250 games finished.
looking forward to a big competition from Killfish

Stay well
TR

Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:33 am

OrgZ wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2024 8:43 pm
Thanks Sedat
For private19sf you currently have Private19sf_002b, the other stronger variant is the publicly released one, when i gave you that one, Tom and Alex were working on some crazy parameters. at that moment when i gave you, your variant was stronger and better than its father. but later on new stronger parameters were tuned :lol:.
buts its ok Friend. lets give others a chance ;)

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2m+0.20s
Score of Private19Sf_002b vs Private19Sf_sse41: 14 - 17 - 219 [0.494]
...      Private19Sf_002b playing White: 8 - 6 - 111  [0.508] 125
...      Private19Sf_002b playing Black: 6 - 11 - 108  [0.480] 125
...      White vs Black: 19 - 12 - 219  [0.514] 250
Elo difference: -4.2 +/- 15.1, LOS: 29.5 %, DrawRatio: 87.6 %
250 of 250 games finished.
looking forward to a big competition from Killfish

Stay well
TR
Not at all Tanick

Really? I was not aware of that...I thought simply that
My tested Private19Sf is same vers, which you shared..
And checking your published results..it seems strong...

Anyhow, just in case of newer tour/s
I hope to use the latest Private19Sf vers.

About the latest Killfish ver
We will see...very soon,
All this mystery will be cleared )
But bear in mind too,
You have a very serious opponent for sure ;)

Greetings

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Mon Jun 17, 2024 6:48 am

UPDATE

Congrats to Anton Ces! via Play Off (via Unique openings):
Killfish 150624 engine is managed to be in Super League!
Where unfortunately latest RaspTora 3.0 could not qualify..
But no surprise, since RapTora played with old-dated net..

More Details:
In official 2nd League (via Balsa): Killfish is scored 3774 Elo (57%),
But via Play OFF: Killfish performed with win. percentage: 61.8%!

So once more we noticed that in case of via Unique openings:
The latest Top engines have more chances to gain better points!
Where via Balsa, less chances...as reason Balsa has less holes..
In same that means Weaker engines are safer via Stronger openings!
There is no other explanation of that, right ?)

Ok.. and here are the latest Play Off results by Killfish:

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   0 Killfish 150624                83      14     600   61.8%   71.8% 
   1 Fisherov M 1.2                -35      35      50   45.0%   86.0% 
   2 ShashChess 32                 -42      47      50   44.0%   76.0% 
   3 Fat Titz 2                    -49      44      50   43.0%   78.0% 
   4 AI 28.0                       -70      40      50   40.0%   80.0% 
   5 Obsidian 12.29                -92      50      50   37.0%   70.0% 
   6 Kayra 1.0                     -92      54      50   37.0%   66.0% 
   7 CatroP 060523                 -92      46      50   37.0%   74.0% 
   8 Raubfish X48c3               -100      60      50   36.0%   60.0% 
   9 Berserk 13                   -100      56      50   36.0%   64.0% 
  10 K.Dragon 3.3                 -108      49      50   35.0%   70.0% 
  11 CFishNN 240223               -108      49      50   35.0%   70.0% 
  12 BlueMarlin 14.4              -115      50      50   34.0%   68.0% 

600 of 600 games finished.
And very soon, very likely today,
Killfish will be participated in SL

GOOD LUCK )

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Re: SedatChess

Post by OrgZ » Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:05 am

Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 6:48 am
UPDATE

Congrats to Anton Ces! via Play Off (via Unique openings):
Killfish 150624 engine is managed to be in Super League!
Where unfortunately latest RaspTora 3.0 could not qualify..
But no surprise, since RapTora played with old-dated net..

More Details:
In official 2nd League (via Balsa): Killfish is scored 3774 Elo (57%),
But via Play OFF: Killfish performed with win. percentage: 61.8%!

So once more we noticed that in case of via Unique openings:
The latest Top engines have more chances to gain better points!
Where via Balsa, less chances...as reason Balsa has less holes..
In same that means Weaker engines are safer via Stronger openings!
There is no other explanation of that, right ?)

Ok.. and here are the latest Play Off results by Killfish:

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   0 Killfish 150624                83      14     600   61.8%   71.8% 
   1 Fisherov M 1.2                -35      35      50   45.0%   86.0% 
   2 ShashChess 32                 -42      47      50   44.0%   76.0% 
   3 Fat Titz 2                    -49      44      50   43.0%   78.0% 
   4 AI 28.0                       -70      40      50   40.0%   80.0% 
   5 Obsidian 12.29                -92      50      50   37.0%   70.0% 
   6 Kayra 1.0                     -92      54      50   37.0%   66.0% 
   7 CatroP 060523                 -92      46      50   37.0%   74.0% 
   8 Raubfish X48c3               -100      60      50   36.0%   60.0% 
   9 Berserk 13                   -100      56      50   36.0%   64.0% 
  10 K.Dragon 3.3                 -108      49      50   35.0%   70.0% 
  11 CFishNN 240223               -108      49      50   35.0%   70.0% 
  12 BlueMarlin 14.4              -115      50      50   34.0%   68.0% 

600 of 600 games finished.
And very soon, very likely today,
Killfish will be participated in SL

GOOD LUCK )
Thanks Sedat.
aha see :lol: he is in

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:34 am

OrgZ wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:05 am
Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 6:48 am
UPDATE

Congrats to Anton Ces! via Play Off (via Unique openings):
Killfish 150624 engine is managed to be in Super League!
Where unfortunately latest RaspTora 3.0 could not qualify..
But no surprise, since RapTora played with old-dated net..

More Details:
In official 2nd League (via Balsa): Killfish is scored 3774 Elo (57%),
But via Play OFF: Killfish performed with win. percentage: 61.8%!

So once more we noticed that in case of via Unique openings:
The latest Top engines have more chances to gain better points!
Where via Balsa, less chances...as reason Balsa has less holes..
In same that means Weaker engines are safer via Stronger openings!
There is no other explanation of that, right ?)

Ok.. and here are the latest Play Off results by Killfish:

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   0 Killfish 150624                83      14     600   61.8%   71.8% 
   1 Fisherov M 1.2                -35      35      50   45.0%   86.0% 
   2 ShashChess 32                 -42      47      50   44.0%   76.0% 
   3 Fat Titz 2                    -49      44      50   43.0%   78.0% 
   4 AI 28.0                       -70      40      50   40.0%   80.0% 
   5 Obsidian 12.29                -92      50      50   37.0%   70.0% 
   6 Kayra 1.0                     -92      54      50   37.0%   66.0% 
   7 CatroP 060523                 -92      46      50   37.0%   74.0% 
   8 Raubfish X48c3               -100      60      50   36.0%   60.0% 
   9 Berserk 13                   -100      56      50   36.0%   64.0% 
  10 K.Dragon 3.3                 -108      49      50   35.0%   70.0% 
  11 CFishNN 240223               -108      49      50   35.0%   70.0% 
  12 BlueMarlin 14.4              -115      50      50   34.0%   68.0% 

600 of 600 games finished.
And very soon, very likely today,
Killfish will be participated in SL

GOOD LUCK )
Thanks Sedat.
aha see :lol: he is in
Not at all Tanick

Yes..

Btw, right now I am working on SL
So please stay tuned... ;)

Greetings

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:31 am

Breaking News (17.06.2024):
Both League CS are ended... congrats and many thanks to all programmers!
And as I stated earlier: via stronger opening lines (e.g via Balsa..) the weaker
Engines are safer, gaining better points for sure! at least current tour confirms..
And not only in this tour, I can share many other tours, where we'll see again..
But via Unique suite, which is not so strong as Balsa: then the weaker engines
Fall more often in trouble...not always of course.. but situation is more critical!
Note: As reference, for comparing... latest Play Off results can be checked too!
Btw, since many months SF team is more busy over weak opening lines, right ?
And what about eng improvements over strong opening theory? project dead?
Anyhow no problem, just if future tours 3770+ I hope to use weaker openings..
Be aware too, in a few hours, Final Super League's Results will be shared too

2nd League Champ: SF-POLY - Congratulations to Tanick Ramz, SF team!

For Final 2nd League Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... -cs-51-2nd

Greetings

Anton101
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Anton101 » Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:04 am

Thank you for this tremendous tour Sedat, congratulations to OrgZ, however it is worth mentioning that SpecTral's weakness is compensated by its highly refined experience file.

Thank you with all my heart for your enormous passion, a very big hug from a distance and see you soon in next battles.

Best regards;

Antonio Calzada (Anton Ces).
Veracruz, México.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Mon Jun 17, 2024 1:13 pm

Anton101 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:04 am
Thank you for this tremendous tour Sedat, congratulations to OrgZ, however it is worth mentioning that SpecTral's weakness is compensated by its highly refined experience file.

Thank you with all my heart for your enormous passion, a very big hug from a distance and see you soon in next battles.

Best regards;

Antonio Calzada (Anton Ces).
Veracruz, México.
You are welcome dear Anton

And thank you too for all ...

Best wishes,
Sedat

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Mon Jun 17, 2024 1:15 pm

Breaking News (17.06.2023):
Both Leagues are ended..congratulations and thanks to all programmers!
And will be not so bad if Mr Tanick to take a bead worn against the evil eye !)
Yes, a man who's engines managed to be Number One of both hard Leagues!
On the other hand, as we see Killfish performed very good too..just 1 point
Behind C-Dragon and frankly in my eyes, both, actually even SF-POLY too
Are almost identical in strength and not via papers of course but via facts!
Ok friends that's all for now. here is summer so I need to take a good rest..
You may know, running similar competitions.. are not so easy as it looks!
However I hope to organize new tours..but not so frequent..see you later )

Super League Champ: C-Dragon - Congrats to Tanick Ramz, SF team!

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Rank Name              Elo   +    -  games score oppo. draws 
   1 C-Dragon v3.0    3797    5    5   600   51%  3792   93% 
   2 Killfish 150624  3796    5    5   600   51%  3792   96% 
   3 SF-POLY 020624   3795    5    5   600   50%  3793   94% 
   4 Stockfish 16.1   3785    5    5   600   48%  3796   92% 
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/C4ZxBbAZ#OgzJ3fs0E ... z-vC3dgqLk

More Details:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... r-league_1

Greetings

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Homayoun » Mon Jun 17, 2024 2:09 pm

Thank you very much for tournaments.
Greetings

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