SedatChess
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UPDATE
2nd League tour results are published, for more details, standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... -cs-51-2nd
Current Leader: SF-POLY - Congratulations to Tanick Ramz, SF team!
On the other hand,
What is going on ? 14 new entries..just only two managed to qualify:
Stockfish 16.1 and SF-POLY 020624 !!
Some Notes:
Super League is planing later (with the qualified players), but it seems it will
Take some long time..since we have only 2 qualified players for the moment...
To be more clear, in Second League: latest Top engines of 3770+ are played
Vs same/constant opponents, which are minus plus 30-40 Elo weaker..reason,
To reduce the overall draw ratio! You may know, Top engines play as serious
Role in case of appearing high draws! and via current testing way, our tours are
More exciting..otherwise if via more optimal test conditions (as MP, Ponder ON,
Even Blitz etc) then close to 99% draws for sure (I mean too boring for my side)
For right now, the draw ratio is 86%, yes more blunder moves, but if nothing else
More FUN on scene, right? Meanwhile, once more we noticed that unfortunately
There is no much Elo improvement since several months... at least current CS
Confirms this to all of us besides in other CS: SF16.1 performed as best Results
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... nnue-cs-50
So here I think that it's not as bad 'luck' about that latest SF dev. is again weaker..
Who knows? maybe via weak openings: we may see some Elo improvements?
Or perhaps when HT + LP is enabled and with many concurrent games....or ?)
Btw, just a few more words about the qualification rule (3775+ Elo is required):
In short, any engine better (stronger) than Stockfish 16.1 will be into planning
Super League..if the barrier is less..then no point to organize Super League...
Greetings
2nd League tour results are published, for more details, standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... -cs-51-2nd
Current Leader: SF-POLY - Congratulations to Tanick Ramz, SF team!
On the other hand,
What is going on ? 14 new entries..just only two managed to qualify:
Stockfish 16.1 and SF-POLY 020624 !!
Some Notes:
Super League is planing later (with the qualified players), but it seems it will
Take some long time..since we have only 2 qualified players for the moment...
To be more clear, in Second League: latest Top engines of 3770+ are played
Vs same/constant opponents, which are minus plus 30-40 Elo weaker..reason,
To reduce the overall draw ratio! You may know, Top engines play as serious
Role in case of appearing high draws! and via current testing way, our tours are
More exciting..otherwise if via more optimal test conditions (as MP, Ponder ON,
Even Blitz etc) then close to 99% draws for sure (I mean too boring for my side)
For right now, the draw ratio is 86%, yes more blunder moves, but if nothing else
More FUN on scene, right? Meanwhile, once more we noticed that unfortunately
There is no much Elo improvement since several months... at least current CS
Confirms this to all of us besides in other CS: SF16.1 performed as best Results
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... nnue-cs-50
So here I think that it's not as bad 'luck' about that latest SF dev. is again weaker..
Who knows? maybe via weak openings: we may see some Elo improvements?
Or perhaps when HT + LP is enabled and with many concurrent games....or ?)
Btw, just a few more words about the qualification rule (3775+ Elo is required):
In short, any engine better (stronger) than Stockfish 16.1 will be into planning
Super League..if the barrier is less..then no point to organize Super League...
Greetings
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Re: SedatChess
Breaking News (13.06.2024):
Another BIG update for today: 11 entries but what a pity no one managed..sad!
But anyhow, I have good news as well:
Any high-rated player with 3774 Elo..will be in 'Play Off' test...to be more clear:
In Play Off: 3744 Elo one/s will be newly tested and as only difference in cond:
Unique openings will be used and any Play Off engine, which will be performed
Better points than SF16.1 will be qualified into planning Super League, and via
Play Off: it's expecting to see more qualified players but I admit too that current
CS is one of most hardest that ever seen...at least I can not remember...perhaps
Current CS is easy for programmers but just the used SCCT cond. does not suit
To almost all of entries ?! Who knows ?) or perhaps real SF team plus its based..
Are not so active on working over newer, more various test conditions?any ideas
Opinions over these strange issues are welcomed of course..thanks in advance
If still not so clear...newer vers. should be better/stronger (not weaker ) right ?!)
Btw, soon as possible, C-Dragon 3.0 (as 1st runner-up) will play off...good luck!
The Current Leader: SF-POLY - Congratulations to Tanick Ramz, SF team!
Note: SF-POLY performed 0.5 point better than SF16.1, so current Leader..
For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... -cs-51-2nd
Greetings )
Another BIG update for today: 11 entries but what a pity no one managed..sad!
But anyhow, I have good news as well:
Any high-rated player with 3774 Elo..will be in 'Play Off' test...to be more clear:
In Play Off: 3744 Elo one/s will be newly tested and as only difference in cond:
Unique openings will be used and any Play Off engine, which will be performed
Better points than SF16.1 will be qualified into planning Super League, and via
Play Off: it's expecting to see more qualified players but I admit too that current
CS is one of most hardest that ever seen...at least I can not remember...perhaps
Current CS is easy for programmers but just the used SCCT cond. does not suit
To almost all of entries ?! Who knows ?) or perhaps real SF team plus its based..
Are not so active on working over newer, more various test conditions?any ideas
Opinions over these strange issues are welcomed of course..thanks in advance
If still not so clear...newer vers. should be better/stronger (not weaker ) right ?!)
Btw, soon as possible, C-Dragon 3.0 (as 1st runner-up) will play off...good luck!
The Current Leader: SF-POLY - Congratulations to Tanick Ramz, SF team!
Note: SF-POLY performed 0.5 point better than SF16.1, so current Leader..
For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... -cs-51-2nd
Greetings )
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EDIT: In Play Off: 3774 Elo one/s will be newly tested...
Re: SedatChess
Thank you very much , Sedat.
Re: SedatChess
Thanks sedat. I actually have C_Dragon 3.1 which is stronger than 3.0Sedat Canbaz wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:26 pm Breaking News (13.06.2024):
Another BIG update for today: 11 entries but what a pity no one managed..sad!
But anyhow, I have good news as well:
Any high-rated player with 3774 Elo..will be in 'Play Off' test...to be more clear:
In Play Off: 3744 Elo one/s will be newly tested and as only difference in cond:
Unique openings will be used and any Play Off engine, which will be performed
Better points than SF16.1 will be qualified into planning Super League, and via
Play Off: it's expecting to see more qualified players but I admit too that current
CS is one of most hardest that ever seen...at least I can not remember...perhaps
Current CS is easy for programmers but just the used SCCT cond. does not suit
To almost all of entries ?! Who knows ?) or perhaps real SF team plus its based..
Are not so active on working over newer, more various test conditions?any ideas
Opinions over these strange issues are welcomed of course..thanks in advance
If still not so clear...newer vers. should be better/stronger (not weaker ) right ?!)
Btw, soon as possible, C-Dragon 3.0 (as 1st runner-up) will play off...good luck!
The Current Leader: SF-POLY - Congratulations to Tanick Ramz, SF team!
Note: SF-POLY performed 0.5 point better than SF16.1, so current Leader..
For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... -cs-51-2nd
Greetings )
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You are welcome Homayoun )
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Not at all tanick and sounds good...and I'd be happy to test C-Dragon v3.1 as wellOrgZ wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 5:53 pm
Thanks sedat. I actually have C_Dragon 3.1 which is stronger than 3.0
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UPDATE 2
SF-PRO 140624 (by APOCALYPSE) is the latest new strong entry...
Good luck!
SF-PRO 140624 (by APOCALYPSE) is the latest new strong entry...
Good luck!
Code: Select all
Rank Name Elo +/- Games Score Draw
0 SF-PRO 140624 39 20 134 55.6% 87.3%
1 Fisherov M 1.2 29 55 12 54.2% 91.7%
2 CFishNN 240223 0 0 10 50.0% 100.0%
3 Berserk 13 0 0 13 50.0% 100.0%
4 AI 28.0 0 0 12 50.0% 100.0%
5 Fat Titz 2 -29 55 12 45.8% 91.7%
6 Raubfish X48c3 -58 77 12 41.7% 83.3%
7 CatroP 060523 -58 77 12 41.7% 83.3%
8 BlueMarlin 14.4 -58 77 12 41.7% 83.3%
9 ShashChess 32 -64 84 11 40.9% 81.8%
10 Kayra 1.0 -64 84 11 40.9% 81.8%
11 Obsidian 12.29 -89 116 8 37.5% 75.0%
12 K.Dragon 3.3 -120 127 9 33.3% 66.7%
134 of 600 games finished.
Re: SedatChess
Hi Sedat
Thank you very much for tests. New strong engines ( Raptora and killifish ) also arrived. I expected so much from obsidian 12.29. I found it very strong .Let’s see what happens in continue.
Best regards
Thank you very much for tests. New strong engines ( Raptora and killifish ) also arrived. I expected so much from obsidian 12.29. I found it very strong .Let’s see what happens in continue.
Best regards