SedatChess

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Homayoun
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Re: SedatChess

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Re: SedatChess

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OrgZ wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:43 pm
Thanks director 😁
Homayoun wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:24 pm+1
You are welcome )
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Re: SedatChess

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Cengiz-Baba wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:07 pm
Sedat Canbaz wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:46 am The DUEL - FRINGE407 Vs ProteusSFX is ended:
The Winner is FRINGE407 - Congartulations!

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Score of FRINGE407 vs ProteusSFX: 10 - 5 - 483 [0.505]
...      FRINGE407 playing White: 10 - 5 - 233  [0.510] 248
...      FRINGE407 playing Black: 0 - 0 - 250  [0.500] 250
...      White vs Black: 10 - 5 - 483  [0.505] 498
Elo difference: 3.5 +/- 5.3, LOS: 90.2 %, DrawRatio: 97.0 %
500 of 500 games finished.
GAMES:
https://pixeldrain.com/u/1Exfjb3b

Conditions:
2x Epyc 7B12, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 1m+0.6s, 64 MB Hash, 4-MEN
Note: Both participants are played via Raid v3.4 engine (by Tanick Ramz)
And for better performance: for each player is installed a copy of engine..

As final words,
Under equal hardware speed cond. no chances to see
Similar points difference as Online...on other hand,
Sure for a better conclusion more games are required,
But according to latest played results it is very clear
Also that FRINGE407's used openings are more dangerous!

And I hope also that,
You like my current organized Duel...?)

Ok friends... that's all for now.. see you later


Best,
Sedat
My dear friend Sedat,

I congratulate you on this marvellous idea and thank you for the test.

I hope that Alex Morales will stop shaking his head behind my back and start working on his engine and his opening book. His debates are doing nothing but taking chess backwards. Beating 2400 elo bots won't make you a champion. :cool:

My respects to you Sedat :thumbsup:
Hello dear Fringe,

Not at all..it is my pleasure
And I'm happy that you like my idea...

Btw, can you inform please,
What is your hardware (played vs ProteusSF on Lichess server) ?

Greetings )
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Cengiz-Baba »

Sedat Canbaz wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:06 am
Cengiz-Baba wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:07 pm
Sedat Canbaz wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:46 am The DUEL - FRINGE407 Vs ProteusSFX is ended:
The Winner is FRINGE407 - Congartulations!

Code: Select all

Score of FRINGE407 vs ProteusSFX: 10 - 5 - 483 [0.505]
...      FRINGE407 playing White: 10 - 5 - 233  [0.510] 248
...      FRINGE407 playing Black: 0 - 0 - 250  [0.500] 250
...      White vs Black: 10 - 5 - 483  [0.505] 498
Elo difference: 3.5 +/- 5.3, LOS: 90.2 %, DrawRatio: 97.0 %
500 of 500 games finished.
GAMES:
https://pixeldrain.com/u/1Exfjb3b

Conditions:
2x Epyc 7B12, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 1m+0.6s, 64 MB Hash, 4-MEN
Note: Both participants are played via Raid v3.4 engine (by Tanick Ramz)
And for better performance: for each player is installed a copy of engine..

As final words,
Under equal hardware speed cond. no chances to see
Similar points difference as Online...on other hand,
Sure for a better conclusion more games are required,
But according to latest played results it is very clear
Also that FRINGE407's used openings are more dangerous!

And I hope also that,
You like my current organized Duel...?)

Ok friends... that's all for now.. see you later


Best,
Sedat
My dear friend Sedat,

I congratulate you on this marvellous idea and thank you for the test.

I hope that Alex Morales will stop shaking his head behind my back and start working on his engine and his opening book. His debates are doing nothing but taking chess backwards. Beating 2400 elo bots won't make you a champion. :cool:

My respects to you Sedat :thumbsup:
Hello dear Fringe,

Not at all..it is my pleasure
And I'm happy that you like my idea...

Btw, can you inform please,
What is your hardware (played vs ProteusSF on Lichess server) ?

Greetings )
My dear friend Sedat,
I have several computers. I use them all regularly. The night I humiliated Alex 62.5-37.5 I was using a 4 cpu 1.40ghz 8 ram laptop. Although it was a very bad computer, I deleted Alex Morale from the map. The best computer I use is 20cpu 14700k 32 ram. If I had used it, I guess the poor Italian stallion Alex morales would not have scored. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Best regards,
Fringe
Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

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Cengiz-Baba wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:20 am
Sedat Canbaz wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:06 am
Cengiz-Baba wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:07 pm
Sedat Canbaz wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:46 am The DUEL - FRINGE407 Vs ProteusSFX is ended:
The Winner is FRINGE407 - Congartulations!

Code: Select all

Score of FRINGE407 vs ProteusSFX: 10 - 5 - 483 [0.505]
...      FRINGE407 playing White: 10 - 5 - 233  [0.510] 248
...      FRINGE407 playing Black: 0 - 0 - 250  [0.500] 250
...      White vs Black: 10 - 5 - 483  [0.505] 498
Elo difference: 3.5 +/- 5.3, LOS: 90.2 %, DrawRatio: 97.0 %
500 of 500 games finished.
GAMES:
https://pixeldrain.com/u/1Exfjb3b

Conditions:
2x Epyc 7B12, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 1m+0.6s, 64 MB Hash, 4-MEN
Note: Both participants are played via Raid v3.4 engine (by Tanick Ramz)
And for better performance: for each player is installed a copy of engine..

As final words,
Under equal hardware speed cond. no chances to see
Similar points difference as Online...on other hand,
Sure for a better conclusion more games are required,
But according to latest played results it is very clear
Also that FRINGE407's used openings are more dangerous!

And I hope also that,
You like my current organized Duel...?)

Ok friends... that's all for now.. see you later


Best,
Sedat
My dear friend Sedat,

I congratulate you on this marvellous idea and thank you for the test.

I hope that Alex Morales will stop shaking his head behind my back and start working on his engine and his opening book. His debates are doing nothing but taking chess backwards. Beating 2400 elo bots won't make you a champion. :cool:

My respects to you Sedat :thumbsup:
Hello dear Fringe,

Not at all..it is my pleasure
And I'm happy that you like my idea...

Btw, can you inform please,
What is your hardware (played vs ProteusSF on Lichess server) ?

Greetings )
My dear friend Sedat,
I have several computers. I use them all regularly. The night I humiliated Alex 62.5-37.5 I was using a 4 cpu 1.40ghz 8 ram laptop. Although it was a very bad computer, I deleted Alex Morale from the map. The best computer I use is 20cpu 14700k 32 ram. If I had used it, I guess the poor Italian stallion Alex morales would not have scored. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Best regards,
Fringe
Dear Fringe,

Unbelievable... I thought that you used a superior fast computer
Because, nowadays... no much chances to gain so many points!!
But you managed.. well-done, and it seems that your opening
Book is super strong as well...keep up the good work :difus_19

Greetings )
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Re: SedatChess

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Breaking News (05.04.2024):
Well, here is just another CS based on latest Top engines, in same
Time more original I mean not so closed (in similarity) to each other..
However since NNUE on scene... the originality is almost dead...as
Clear proof, all of them are using NNUE technology ) on other hand,
We have to be satisfied with that.. since is best project to gain better
Points..at least for nowadays...but this is also true, the improvement
Seems to be not so easy...especially with engines which are 3700+
Ok..here are latest played results..and as usually, Stockfish wins..!!

The Champion: Stockfish 16.1 - Congratulations to Stockfish Team!

FOR FINAL STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-48

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/X1xyxALR#VNJTCaI9S ... H5nyOT55q8

Best,
Sedat
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Re: SedatChess

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Sedat Canbaz wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 10:12 pm Breaking News (05.04.2024):
Well, here is just another CS based on latest Top engines, in same
Time more original I mean not so closed (in similarity) to each other..
However since NNUE on scene... the originality is almost dead...as
Clear proof, all of them are using NNUE technology ) on other hand,
We have to be satisfied with that.. since is best project to gain better
Points..at least for nowadays...but this is also true, the improvement
Seems to be not so easy...especially with engines which are 3700+
Ok..here are latest played results..and as usually, Stockfish wins..!!

The Champion: Stockfish 16.1 - Congratulations to Stockfish Team!

FOR FINAL STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-48

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/X1xyxALR#VNJTCaI9S ... H5nyOT55q8

Best,
Sedat
Thank you very much Sedat.
Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

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Homayoun wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 11:31 pm
Sedat Canbaz wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 10:12 pm Breaking News (05.04.2024):
Well, here is just another CS based on latest Top engines, in same
Time more original I mean not so closed (in similarity) to each other..
However since NNUE on scene... the originality is almost dead...as
Clear proof, all of them are using NNUE technology ) on other hand,
We have to be satisfied with that.. since is best project to gain better
Points..at least for nowadays...but this is also true, the improvement
Seems to be not so easy...especially with engines which are 3700+
Ok..here are latest played results..and as usually, Stockfish wins..!!

The Champion: Stockfish 16.1 - Congratulations to Stockfish Team!

FOR FINAL STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-48

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/X1xyxALR#VNJTCaI9S ... H5nyOT55q8

Best,
Sedat
Thank you very much Sedat.
Not at all my friend )
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Re: SedatChess

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Hello Chess Friends,

I am very pleased to announce that
Just another BOOK NNUE CS started..

What is new?
All Book entries will be played by Brainlearn 27 Vs much weaker
Constant engines, which are about 100 Elo weaker than Brainlearn,
Where all weaker engines will use to play via Balsa-Wins book,
In this way, there will be BIG fun, because the overall draws are
Expecting much lower..reason, about 100 Elo Eng NN difference!

Why Balsa (for all constant 10 engines)?,
1st it's one of strongest suites, which prefer various openings!
2nd via Balsa, we will have more chances to see which books are
Better in overall openings..just TREND openings...not enough !!
3rd. Besides, Balsa book includes not so many BIG holes for sure!
Otherwise, let's say we used SPCC, CCRL, TCEC etc. we will have
Many weaker lines, that means easier points.. sorry, this time,
The tour's target is to see stronger lines..that means harder..!

And why Brainlearn 27 (main engine for planing book entries)?
For several reasons, 1st the Strongest, less Drawish, sure
Under these used/played conditions...note also that current
Brainlearn is special ver, compiled by Mr. Tanick Ramz (Orgz),
Futures CTG, BIN, other important future has small size (1.8 MB)
And in same time, compatible to use external NNUE Evalfiles!
You may know, otherwise if using for each book player 76 MB:
It is simply pointless...not logical... right ?

And here are latest Candidate tour results, played at Bullet 1m+06s,
Note that due to no free time, all newer 3750+ are not tested..but
Just..via strong openings: no much improvement...this is a fact!
And I plan to pick 10 engines, which will be about 100 Elo weaker:

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   # PLAYER              :  RATING  POINTS   GAMES   (%)
   1 Brainlearn 27       :  3804.1   651.5    1000    65
   2 RapTora 2.3         :  3797.5   643.0    1000    64
   3 Raid 3.5            :  3796.2   706.5    1100    64
   4 Raid 3.4            :  3788.2   695.0    1100    63
   5 CiChess 040121      :  3710.6   571.0    1100    52
   6 Caissa 1.18         :  3710.3   624.0    1200    52
   7 Cfish 250621        :  3705.9   563.0    1100    51
   8 Eman 6.91           :  3705.0   561.5    1100    51
   9 Crystal 060622      :  3700.4   804.5    1700    47
  10 Stockfish 13        :  3700.0   453.5    1000    45
  11 KDragon 2.5         :  3699.5   852.0    1800    47
  12 KDragon 3.3 MCTS    :  3695.1   840.5    1800    47
  13 CF-EXT 161120       :  3694.4   736.5    1600    46
  14 FatFritz 3          :  3692.0   783.5    1700    46
  15 Obsidian 11         :  3689.3   774.5    1700    46
  16 Berserk 11.1        :  3688.6   775.0    1700    46
  17 Caissa 1.16         :  3688.2   534.0    1200    45
  18 Raubfisch X45       :  3687.6   772.5    1700    45
  19 ShashChess 16       :  3685.5   458.0    1000    46
In other words,
Let's see under these new cond. which books will gain more points?)
DON, OPTIMUS, PYRAMID, TURKEY.. one of them will be next Champ ?
Or any other ? ok...we will see... after all, time will tell...)

And please stay tuned, more info etc. very soon )


Best,
Sedat
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz »

UPDATE

DON is entered...

Note: This is the same DON vers, which managed to be
Number One in previous/ recent organized book tours!

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   0 DON 010324                     91      13     628   62.7%   74.2% 
   1 Crystal 060622                -66      35      64   40.6%   81.3% 
   2 Caissa 1.18                   -67      39      63   40.5%   77.8% 
   3 FatFritz 3                    -69      36      61   40.2%   80.3% 
   4 Cfish 250621                  -72      36      64   39.8%   79.7% 
   5 KDragon 3.3 MCTS              -74      37      62   39.5%   79.0% 
   6 Berserk 11.1                  -96      41      63   36.5%   73.0% 
   7 CF-EXT 161120                -102      42      63   35.7%   71.4% 
   8 Obsidian 11                  -108      44      63   34.9%   69.8% 
   9 KDragon 2.5                  -116      45      62   33.9%   67.7% 
  10 CiChess 040121               -139      49      63   31.0%   61.9% 

628 of 1000 games finished.
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