SedatChess
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Re: SedatChess
Hello dear Fringe,Cengiz-Baba wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:07 pmMy dear friend Sedat,Sedat Canbaz wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:46 am The DUEL - FRINGE407 Vs ProteusSFX is ended:
The Winner is FRINGE407 - Congartulations!
GAMES:Code: Select all
Score of FRINGE407 vs ProteusSFX: 10 - 5 - 483 [0.505] ... FRINGE407 playing White: 10 - 5 - 233 [0.510] 248 ... FRINGE407 playing Black: 0 - 0 - 250 [0.500] 250 ... White vs Black: 10 - 5 - 483 [0.505] 498 Elo difference: 3.5 +/- 5.3, LOS: 90.2 %, DrawRatio: 97.0 % 500 of 500 games finished.
https://pixeldrain.com/u/1Exfjb3b
Conditions:
2x Epyc 7B12, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 1m+0.6s, 64 MB Hash, 4-MEN
Note: Both participants are played via Raid v3.4 engine (by Tanick Ramz)
And for better performance: for each player is installed a copy of engine..
As final words,
Under equal hardware speed cond. no chances to see
Similar points difference as Online...on other hand,
Sure for a better conclusion more games are required,
But according to latest played results it is very clear
Also that FRINGE407's used openings are more dangerous!
And I hope also that,
You like my current organized Duel...?)
Ok friends... that's all for now.. see you later
Best,
Sedat
I congratulate you on this marvellous idea and thank you for the test.
I hope that Alex Morales will stop shaking his head behind my back and start working on his engine and his opening book. His debates are doing nothing but taking chess backwards. Beating 2400 elo bots won't make you a champion.
My respects to you Sedat![]()
Not at all..it is my pleasure
And I'm happy that you like my idea...
Btw, can you inform please,
What is your hardware (played vs ProteusSF on Lichess server) ?
Greetings )
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Re: SedatChess
My dear friend Sedat,Sedat Canbaz wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:06 amHello dear Fringe,Cengiz-Baba wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:07 pmMy dear friend Sedat,Sedat Canbaz wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:46 am The DUEL - FRINGE407 Vs ProteusSFX is ended:
The Winner is FRINGE407 - Congartulations!
GAMES:Code: Select all
Score of FRINGE407 vs ProteusSFX: 10 - 5 - 483 [0.505] ... FRINGE407 playing White: 10 - 5 - 233 [0.510] 248 ... FRINGE407 playing Black: 0 - 0 - 250 [0.500] 250 ... White vs Black: 10 - 5 - 483 [0.505] 498 Elo difference: 3.5 +/- 5.3, LOS: 90.2 %, DrawRatio: 97.0 % 500 of 500 games finished.
https://pixeldrain.com/u/1Exfjb3b
Conditions:
2x Epyc 7B12, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 1m+0.6s, 64 MB Hash, 4-MEN
Note: Both participants are played via Raid v3.4 engine (by Tanick Ramz)
And for better performance: for each player is installed a copy of engine..
As final words,
Under equal hardware speed cond. no chances to see
Similar points difference as Online...on other hand,
Sure for a better conclusion more games are required,
But according to latest played results it is very clear
Also that FRINGE407's used openings are more dangerous!
And I hope also that,
You like my current organized Duel...?)
Ok friends... that's all for now.. see you later
Best,
Sedat
I congratulate you on this marvellous idea and thank you for the test.
I hope that Alex Morales will stop shaking his head behind my back and start working on his engine and his opening book. His debates are doing nothing but taking chess backwards. Beating 2400 elo bots won't make you a champion.
My respects to you Sedat![]()
Not at all..it is my pleasure
And I'm happy that you like my idea...
Btw, can you inform please,
What is your hardware (played vs ProteusSF on Lichess server) ?
Greetings )
I have several computers. I use them all regularly. The night I humiliated Alex 62.5-37.5 I was using a 4 cpu 1.40ghz 8 ram laptop. Although it was a very bad computer, I deleted Alex Morale from the map. The best computer I use is 20cpu 14700k 32 ram. If I had used it, I guess the poor Italian stallion Alex morales would not have scored.




Best regards,
Fringe
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Re: SedatChess
Dear Fringe,Cengiz-Baba wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:20 amMy dear friend Sedat,Sedat Canbaz wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:06 amHello dear Fringe,Cengiz-Baba wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:07 pmMy dear friend Sedat,Sedat Canbaz wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:46 am The DUEL - FRINGE407 Vs ProteusSFX is ended:
The Winner is FRINGE407 - Congartulations!
GAMES:Code: Select all
Score of FRINGE407 vs ProteusSFX: 10 - 5 - 483 [0.505] ... FRINGE407 playing White: 10 - 5 - 233 [0.510] 248 ... FRINGE407 playing Black: 0 - 0 - 250 [0.500] 250 ... White vs Black: 10 - 5 - 483 [0.505] 498 Elo difference: 3.5 +/- 5.3, LOS: 90.2 %, DrawRatio: 97.0 % 500 of 500 games finished.
https://pixeldrain.com/u/1Exfjb3b
Conditions:
2x Epyc 7B12, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 1m+0.6s, 64 MB Hash, 4-MEN
Note: Both participants are played via Raid v3.4 engine (by Tanick Ramz)
And for better performance: for each player is installed a copy of engine..
As final words,
Under equal hardware speed cond. no chances to see
Similar points difference as Online...on other hand,
Sure for a better conclusion more games are required,
But according to latest played results it is very clear
Also that FRINGE407's used openings are more dangerous!
And I hope also that,
You like my current organized Duel...?)
Ok friends... that's all for now.. see you later
Best,
Sedat
I congratulate you on this marvellous idea and thank you for the test.
I hope that Alex Morales will stop shaking his head behind my back and start working on his engine and his opening book. His debates are doing nothing but taking chess backwards. Beating 2400 elo bots won't make you a champion.
My respects to you Sedat![]()
Not at all..it is my pleasure
And I'm happy that you like my idea...
Btw, can you inform please,
What is your hardware (played vs ProteusSF on Lichess server) ?
Greetings )
I have several computers. I use them all regularly. The night I humiliated Alex 62.5-37.5 I was using a 4 cpu 1.40ghz 8 ram laptop. Although it was a very bad computer, I deleted Alex Morale from the map. The best computer I use is 20cpu 14700k 32 ram. If I had used it, I guess the poor Italian stallion Alex morales would not have scored.![]()
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Best regards,
Fringe
Unbelievable... I thought that you used a superior fast computer
Because, nowadays... no much chances to gain so many points!!
But you managed.. well-done, and it seems that your opening
Book is super strong as well...keep up the good work

Greetings )
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Re: SedatChess
Breaking News (05.04.2024):
Well, here is just another CS based on latest Top engines, in same
Time more original I mean not so closed (in similarity) to each other..
However since NNUE on scene... the originality is almost dead...as
Clear proof, all of them are using NNUE technology ) on other hand,
We have to be satisfied with that.. since is best project to gain better
Points..at least for nowadays...but this is also true, the improvement
Seems to be not so easy...especially with engines which are 3700+
Ok..here are latest played results..and as usually, Stockfish wins..!!
The Champion: Stockfish 16.1 - Congratulations to Stockfish Team!
FOR FINAL STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-48
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/X1xyxALR#VNJTCaI9S ... H5nyOT55q8
Best,
Sedat
Well, here is just another CS based on latest Top engines, in same
Time more original I mean not so closed (in similarity) to each other..
However since NNUE on scene... the originality is almost dead...as
Clear proof, all of them are using NNUE technology ) on other hand,
We have to be satisfied with that.. since is best project to gain better
Points..at least for nowadays...but this is also true, the improvement
Seems to be not so easy...especially with engines which are 3700+
Ok..here are latest played results..and as usually, Stockfish wins..!!
The Champion: Stockfish 16.1 - Congratulations to Stockfish Team!
FOR FINAL STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-48
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/X1xyxALR#VNJTCaI9S ... H5nyOT55q8
Best,
Sedat
Re: SedatChess
Thank you very much Sedat.Sedat Canbaz wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 10:12 pm Breaking News (05.04.2024):
Well, here is just another CS based on latest Top engines, in same
Time more original I mean not so closed (in similarity) to each other..
However since NNUE on scene... the originality is almost dead...as
Clear proof, all of them are using NNUE technology ) on other hand,
We have to be satisfied with that.. since is best project to gain better
Points..at least for nowadays...but this is also true, the improvement
Seems to be not so easy...especially with engines which are 3700+
Ok..here are latest played results..and as usually, Stockfish wins..!!
The Champion: Stockfish 16.1 - Congratulations to Stockfish Team!
FOR FINAL STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-48
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/X1xyxALR#VNJTCaI9S ... H5nyOT55q8
Best,
Sedat
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Re: SedatChess
Not at all my friend )Homayoun wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 11:31 pmThank you very much Sedat.Sedat Canbaz wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 10:12 pm Breaking News (05.04.2024):
Well, here is just another CS based on latest Top engines, in same
Time more original I mean not so closed (in similarity) to each other..
However since NNUE on scene... the originality is almost dead...as
Clear proof, all of them are using NNUE technology ) on other hand,
We have to be satisfied with that.. since is best project to gain better
Points..at least for nowadays...but this is also true, the improvement
Seems to be not so easy...especially with engines which are 3700+
Ok..here are latest played results..and as usually, Stockfish wins..!!
The Champion: Stockfish 16.1 - Congratulations to Stockfish Team!
FOR FINAL STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-48
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/X1xyxALR#VNJTCaI9S ... H5nyOT55q8
Best,
Sedat
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Re: SedatChess
Hello Chess Friends,
I am very pleased to announce that
Just another BOOK NNUE CS started..
What is new?
All Book entries will be played by Brainlearn 27 Vs much weaker
Constant engines, which are about 100 Elo weaker than Brainlearn,
Where all weaker engines will use to play via Balsa-Wins book,
In this way, there will be BIG fun, because the overall draws are
Expecting much lower..reason, about 100 Elo Eng NN difference!
Why Balsa (for all constant 10 engines)?,
1st it's one of strongest suites, which prefer various openings!
2nd via Balsa, we will have more chances to see which books are
Better in overall openings..just TREND openings...not enough !!
3rd. Besides, Balsa book includes not so many BIG holes for sure!
Otherwise, let's say we used SPCC, CCRL, TCEC etc. we will have
Many weaker lines, that means easier points.. sorry, this time,
The tour's target is to see stronger lines..that means harder..!
And why Brainlearn 27 (main engine for planing book entries)?
For several reasons, 1st the Strongest, less Drawish, sure
Under these used/played conditions...note also that current
Brainlearn is special ver, compiled by Mr. Tanick Ramz (Orgz),
Futures CTG, BIN, other important future has small size (1.8 MB)
And in same time, compatible to use external NNUE Evalfiles!
You may know, otherwise if using for each book player 76 MB:
It is simply pointless...not logical... right ?
And here are latest Candidate tour results, played at Bullet 1m+06s,
Note that due to no free time, all newer 3750+ are not tested..but
Just..via strong openings: no much improvement...this is a fact!
And I plan to pick 10 engines, which will be about 100 Elo weaker:
In other words,
Let's see under these new cond. which books will gain more points?)
DON, OPTIMUS, PYRAMID, TURKEY.. one of them will be next Champ ?
Or any other ? ok...we will see... after all, time will tell...)
And please stay tuned, more info etc. very soon )
Best,
Sedat
I am very pleased to announce that
Just another BOOK NNUE CS started..
What is new?
All Book entries will be played by Brainlearn 27 Vs much weaker
Constant engines, which are about 100 Elo weaker than Brainlearn,
Where all weaker engines will use to play via Balsa-Wins book,
In this way, there will be BIG fun, because the overall draws are
Expecting much lower..reason, about 100 Elo Eng NN difference!
Why Balsa (for all constant 10 engines)?,
1st it's one of strongest suites, which prefer various openings!
2nd via Balsa, we will have more chances to see which books are
Better in overall openings..just TREND openings...not enough !!
3rd. Besides, Balsa book includes not so many BIG holes for sure!
Otherwise, let's say we used SPCC, CCRL, TCEC etc. we will have
Many weaker lines, that means easier points.. sorry, this time,
The tour's target is to see stronger lines..that means harder..!
And why Brainlearn 27 (main engine for planing book entries)?
For several reasons, 1st the Strongest, less Drawish, sure
Under these used/played conditions...note also that current
Brainlearn is special ver, compiled by Mr. Tanick Ramz (Orgz),
Futures CTG, BIN, other important future has small size (1.8 MB)
And in same time, compatible to use external NNUE Evalfiles!
You may know, otherwise if using for each book player 76 MB:
It is simply pointless...not logical... right ?
And here are latest Candidate tour results, played at Bullet 1m+06s,
Note that due to no free time, all newer 3750+ are not tested..but
Just..via strong openings: no much improvement...this is a fact!
And I plan to pick 10 engines, which will be about 100 Elo weaker:
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# PLAYER : RATING POINTS GAMES (%)
1 Brainlearn 27 : 3804.1 651.5 1000 65
2 RapTora 2.3 : 3797.5 643.0 1000 64
3 Raid 3.5 : 3796.2 706.5 1100 64
4 Raid 3.4 : 3788.2 695.0 1100 63
5 CiChess 040121 : 3710.6 571.0 1100 52
6 Caissa 1.18 : 3710.3 624.0 1200 52
7 Cfish 250621 : 3705.9 563.0 1100 51
8 Eman 6.91 : 3705.0 561.5 1100 51
9 Crystal 060622 : 3700.4 804.5 1700 47
10 Stockfish 13 : 3700.0 453.5 1000 45
11 KDragon 2.5 : 3699.5 852.0 1800 47
12 KDragon 3.3 MCTS : 3695.1 840.5 1800 47
13 CF-EXT 161120 : 3694.4 736.5 1600 46
14 FatFritz 3 : 3692.0 783.5 1700 46
15 Obsidian 11 : 3689.3 774.5 1700 46
16 Berserk 11.1 : 3688.6 775.0 1700 46
17 Caissa 1.16 : 3688.2 534.0 1200 45
18 Raubfisch X45 : 3687.6 772.5 1700 45
19 ShashChess 16 : 3685.5 458.0 1000 46
Let's see under these new cond. which books will gain more points?)
DON, OPTIMUS, PYRAMID, TURKEY.. one of them will be next Champ ?
Or any other ? ok...we will see... after all, time will tell...)
And please stay tuned, more info etc. very soon )
Best,
Sedat
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Re: SedatChess
UPDATE
DON is entered...
Note: This is the same DON vers, which managed to be
Number One in previous/ recent organized book tours!
DON is entered...
Note: This is the same DON vers, which managed to be
Number One in previous/ recent organized book tours!
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Rank Name Elo +/- Games Score Draw
0 DON 010324 91 13 628 62.7% 74.2%
1 Crystal 060622 -66 35 64 40.6% 81.3%
2 Caissa 1.18 -67 39 63 40.5% 77.8%
3 FatFritz 3 -69 36 61 40.2% 80.3%
4 Cfish 250621 -72 36 64 39.8% 79.7%
5 KDragon 3.3 MCTS -74 37 62 39.5% 79.0%
6 Berserk 11.1 -96 41 63 36.5% 73.0%
7 CF-EXT 161120 -102 42 63 35.7% 71.4%
8 Obsidian 11 -108 44 63 34.9% 69.8%
9 KDragon 2.5 -116 45 62 33.9% 67.7%
10 CiChess 040121 -139 49 63 31.0% 61.9%
628 of 1000 games finished.