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[Sedat Canbaz]

PRIVATE LEAGUE TOUR UPDATE - LIVE STANDINGS:

Current Leader: DON - Congrats to Vasid Chouhan!
Note: Each Book will be played minimum 700 games

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 DON 210324                     24      16     272   53.5%   84.9% 
   2 TURKEY 1203                    10      17     268   51.5%   83.6% 
   3 SENTINEL 5                      5      14     273   50.7%   88.3% 
   4 HCan 290224                     3      14     273   50.4%   88.3% 
   5 TorBot v2                       1      11     274   50.2%   92.3% 
   6 Pyramid 280324                 -5      15     271   49.3%   87.5% 
   7 Everest 300923                -19      18     268   47.2%   80.2% 
   8 Flavo R5                      -20      20     267   47.2%   76.4% 

1083 of 2800 games finished.

[Sedat Canbaz]

UPDATE - FINAL LIVE STANDINGS:

DON is Champion again...Congrats to Vasid Chouhan!
As we see, even without using any NNUE assistance !!

You know,
With HUGE assistance..any fool may play stronger...

Meanwhile, never underestimate anyone's work,
It's dangerous disease of arrogance, jealousy etc.

And why I say like that,
Recently I received a private mail that DON + OPTIMUS are weak ))
My replay was to this guy: I disagree...and if this was true ..then
How DON managed to win? and all was about previous B/N XXVII
What about now, under Classic cond? we see again DON DON DON...
Where 2nd place is going to SENTINEL (by Roger Constantinesco)
3rd is TorBot v2, it's my book, but tuned to prefer Lichess user...

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 DON 210324                     20      11     700   52.9%   81.3% 
   2 SENTINEL 5                      6      10     700   50.9%   86.1% 
   3 TorBot v2                       2       9     700   50.3%   88.3% 
   4 HCan 290224                     1      10     700   50.2%   86.1% 
   5 Everest 300923                 -1      12     700   49.9%   78.6% 
   6 Pyramid 280324                 -6      10     700   49.1%   85.9% 
   7 TURKEY 1203                    -9      12     700   48.7%   79.7% 
   8 Flavo R5                      -14      13     700   48.0%   74.9% 

2800 of 2800 games finished.

And please stay tuned,
Very soon Public tour is coming as well....

Greetings

[Sedat Canbaz]

FINAL TOUR UPDATE

1st of all,
I realized to run more tours as NNUE as well...

In short, simply to see the influences such as
With / Without using NNUE assistance as well!

For anyone missed, I'd like to point/add also that,
Private + NN Leagues are stronger.. better quality!
You can see and check the overall draw statistics!
Yes...the Draw stats can be used as good indicator.
Sure I refer about current tours...e.g not always such
As high produced Draw stats means higher quality..!

Just a few examples about high draw stats values,
Many engines are weaker than Cfish, Raubfish SC
But theirs produced draws are much higher...!!
As same words are going for many books as well..

Or some Online/on same PC players gain higher points...
As reason, they are playing via HUGE assistance etc.
Here I'm not talking only via NN...I mean simply such as
Using cherry picking method or using slower TC etc.
Of course then even weaker openings will be ranked
At higher ranks... but what about under these cond.?)
Yes.. SCCT is hard ...proved thousands of times !!

But on the other hand, (about running separately..)
Under these tour conditions are more fair, right ?)
Normally for experienced... it's as soft touch to gain
Better, more points vs available opening lines, right?)

Honestly, here (via latest tours) still is not 100% fair,
Since some of Top books are smaller or old-dated, etc.
Especially I mean about Everest, Grendel, TorBot etc.
But however, even as old-dated..they are not so bad!

Ok here are the latest played tourneys results..and you can
Appreciate any standing, which you like more ) but anyhow,
As usual, same authors books are on Top...that means a lot!!

Private Book Champion: DON - Congrats to Vasid Chouhan!
Public Champ OPTIMUS -Congrats to Roger Constantinesco!

FOR FINAL STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-28

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/Htp0SZZQ#2yzjPpimK ... hYjlHAhbzw

Have fun,
Sedat

[Homayoun]

Many thanks, Sedat.

[OrgZ]

Many thanks, Sedat.

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[Sedat Canbaz]

Many thanks, Sedat.

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As usual,
Not at all...it's my pleasure dear friends

Greetings

[Sedat Canbaz]

Hello Chess Friends,

Another exciting Duel idea is born:
Very soon, probably today I plan to
Organize: FRINGE407 Vs ProteusSFX AI

And if you are going to ask Me why... ?)
For some reasons e.g according to Lichess server,
ProtesusSF is highest rated player (sure in Elo points)
And if I'm not wrong, rated minus plus 3300, right?
Where FRINGE407 as new incomer has lower Elo points,
But managed to defeat him with BIG margin (+228 Elo)
And I wonder, how this can be possible...?)
Anyhow, under SCCT cond.. no cherry picking system!
No hardware speed advantages...and both will be played
By same Top NNUE engine..against any confusions etc.

To be more clear, based on recent Lichess database,
Both Online players are already played each other...
But I assume under not equal hardware speed cond.
So I wonder what will be results under more fair cond.
For this reason, I'm going to create two based books,
Which will be tuned to prefer their recent openings...
Since the planning books will be based on many games,
Especially ProteusSFX will contain thousands of games.
In same time that means, we can not expect identical
Openings.. I mean like previous played theirs 100 games...
However..after all, I think that it's worth giving a try... !)

Btw, My Congratulations to Fringe...really impressive!
And here are their mentioned, previous Lichess results:

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1   FRINGE407      3009  +26/-1/=73 62.50%   62.5/100
2   ProteusSFX-AI  3149  +1/-26/=73 37.50%   37.5/100

In other words,
Let's see who will be Winner under equal hardware cond ?!
And any guess: ProteusSFX or FRINGE407 ?)

Good luck to both..and please stay tuned,
Soon as possible, the Duel will be played...

Have fun )

[Sedat Canbaz]

The DUEL - FRINGE407 Vs ProteusSFX is ended:
The Winner is FRINGE407 - Congartulations!

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Score of FRINGE407 vs ProteusSFX: 10 - 5 - 483 [0.505]
...      FRINGE407 playing White: 10 - 5 - 233  [0.510] 248
...      FRINGE407 playing Black: 0 - 0 - 250  [0.500] 250
...      White vs Black: 10 - 5 - 483  [0.505] 498
Elo difference: 3.5 +/- 5.3, LOS: 90.2 %, DrawRatio: 97.0 %
500 of 500 games finished.

GAMES:
https://pixeldrain.com/u/1Exfjb3b

Conditions:
2x Epyc 7B12, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 1m+0.6s, 64 MB Hash, 4-MEN
Note: Both participants are played via Raid v3.4 engine (by Tanick Ramz)
And for better performance: for each player is installed a copy of engine..

As final words,
Under equal hardware speed cond. no chances to see
Similar points difference as Online...on other hand,
Sure for a better conclusion more games are required,
But according to latest played results it is very clear
Also that FRINGE407's used openings are more dangerous!

And I hope also that,
You like my current organized Duel...?)

Ok friends... that's all for now.. see you later


Best,
Sedat

[Cengiz-Baba]

The DUEL - FRINGE407 Vs ProteusSFX is ended:
The Winner is FRINGE407 - Congartulations!

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Score of FRINGE407 vs ProteusSFX: 10 - 5 - 483 [0.505]
...      FRINGE407 playing White: 10 - 5 - 233  [0.510] 248
...      FRINGE407 playing Black: 0 - 0 - 250  [0.500] 250
...      White vs Black: 10 - 5 - 483  [0.505] 498
Elo difference: 3.5 +/- 5.3, LOS: 90.2 %, DrawRatio: 97.0 %
500 of 500 games finished.

GAMES:
https://pixeldrain.com/u/1Exfjb3b

Conditions:
2x Epyc 7B12, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 1m+0.6s, 64 MB Hash, 4-MEN
Note: Both participants are played via Raid v3.4 engine (by Tanick Ramz)
And for better performance: for each player is installed a copy of engine..

As final words,
Under equal hardware speed cond. no chances to see
Similar points difference as Online...on other hand,
Sure for a better conclusion more games are required,
But according to latest played results it is very clear
Also that FRINGE407's used openings are more dangerous!

And I hope also that,
You like my current organized Duel...?)

Ok friends... that's all for now.. see you later


Best,
Sedat

My dear friend Sedat,

I congratulate you on this marvellous idea and thank you for the test.

I hope that Alex Morales will stop shaking his head behind my back and start working on his engine and his opening book. His debates are doing nothing but taking chess backwards. Beating 2400 elo bots won't make you a champion.

My respects to you Sedat

[OrgZ]

The DUEL - FRINGE407 Vs ProteusSFX is ended:
The Winner is FRINGE407 - Congartulations!

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Score of FRINGE407 vs ProteusSFX: 10 - 5 - 483 [0.505]
...      FRINGE407 playing White: 10 - 5 - 233  [0.510] 248
...      FRINGE407 playing Black: 0 - 0 - 250  [0.500] 250
...      White vs Black: 10 - 5 - 483  [0.505] 498
Elo difference: 3.5 +/- 5.3, LOS: 90.2 %, DrawRatio: 97.0 %
500 of 500 games finished.

GAMES:
https://pixeldrain.com/u/1Exfjb3b

Conditions:
2x Epyc 7B12, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 1m+0.6s, 64 MB Hash, 4-MEN
Note: Both participants are played via Raid v3.4 engine (by Tanick Ramz)
And for better performance: for each player is installed a copy of engine..

As final words,
Under equal hardware speed cond. no chances to see
Similar points difference as Online...on other hand,
Sure for a better conclusion more games are required,
But according to latest played results it is very clear
Also that FRINGE407's used openings are more dangerous!

And I hope also that,
You like my current organized Duel...?)

Ok friends... that's all for now.. see you later


Best,
Sedat

Thanks director