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Sedat Canbaz
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Homayoun wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 5:45 pm Many thanks, for great tour.
You are welcome Mr. Homayoun )
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Breaking News (02.11.2023):
Via latest 6 (six) engine entries...it's time to announce who are first Champions:
Ladies and Gentlemen, we have two Champs...interesting.. rarely happens two..
Yes.. their learning is so effective that non-learning engines are hopeless under
These cond..e.g all Top 5 ranked engines are able to learn... so picture is clear!
And very likely after playing more games, their Elo difference may be increased..
About current win. percentage stats, Whites: 55%, Blacks 45%..so quite normal..
Frankly stats are important..and not all of opening suites produce these values!

Champions: SunLight / Tactical - Congrats to E. Nemeth, A. Ces and SF team!

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-44

Greetings
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OrgZ
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Re: SedatChess

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Sedat Canbaz wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:00 am Breaking News (02.11.2023):
Via latest 6 (six) engine entries...it's time to announce who are first Champions:
Ladies and Gentlemen, we have two Champs...interesting.. rarely happens two..
Yes.. their learning is so effective that non-learning engines are hopeless under
These cond..e.g all Top 5 ranked engines are able to learn... so picture is clear!
And very likely after playing more games, their Elo difference may be increased..
About current win. percentage stats, Whites: 55%, Blacks 45%..so quite normal..
Frankly stats are important..and not all of opening suites produce these values!

Champions: SunLight / Tactical - Congrats to E. Nemeth, A. Ces and SF team!

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-44

Greetings
were you running in gauntlet style or straight up round robin?

if gauntlet then Hazard didn't give u problems i take it? :?

and congratulations to the winners :difus_24
Anton101
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Re: SedatChess

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Many, many thanks for the tour and a really good and great director...SpecTral 5.50 is fixed now, some issues with the last update that I sent you...In three weeks I'll release the last Tactical and last Cool Iris, I'll be focus only in Dark SisTer and SpecTral, I'm planning both engines as bots for lichess.

I'm planning just release Crystal tactical, gonna be easy just adding tactic settings without learning file or bin book entries, just for analysis and eng vs eng matches.

In three weeks...

Best regards Mr. Sedat you are the really champ!
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Re: SedatChess

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OrgZ wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:10 am
Sedat Canbaz wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:00 am Breaking News (02.11.2023):
Via latest 6 (six) engine entries...it's time to announce who are first Champions:
Ladies and Gentlemen, we have two Champs...interesting.. rarely happens two..
Yes.. their learning is so effective that non-learning engines are hopeless under
These cond..e.g all Top 5 ranked engines are able to learn... so picture is clear!
And very likely after playing more games, their Elo difference may be increased..
About current win. percentage stats, Whites: 55%, Blacks 45%..so quite normal..
Frankly stats are important..and not all of opening suites produce these values!

Champions: SunLight / Tactical - Congrats to E. Nemeth, A. Ces and SF team!

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-44

Greetings
were you running in gauntlet style or straight up round robin?

if gauntlet then Hazard didn't give u problems i take it? :?

and congratulations to the winners :difus_24
Well, the tour is started with round-robin system
That means mostly games are played in round-robin,
Where the latest entries are played in gauntlet..

Btw, just in case of new entries, which are able to learn...
I plan to test in gauntlet but with concurrent games: 32
In this way, I expect the learning engines to gain more...

About latest Hazard version,
No any crash...all stable so far..
Same words are going for the rest engines too !

Greetings )
Last edited by Sedat Canbaz on Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:40 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: SedatChess

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Anton101 wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:50 am Many, many thanks for the tour and a really good and great director...SpecTral 5.50 is fixed now, some issues with the last update that I sent you...In three weeks I'll release the last Tactical and last Cool Iris, I'll be focus only in Dark SisTer and SpecTral, I'm planning both engines as bots for lichess.

I'm planning just release Crystal tactical, gonna be easy just adding tactic settings without learning file or bin book entries, just for analysis and eng vs eng matches.

In three weeks...

Best regards Mr. Sedat you are the really champ!
Dear Mr. Anton,

Thank you very much ..you are very kind!

And keep up the good work

Greetings )
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Re: SedatChess

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Sedat Canbaz wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:34 am
OrgZ wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:10 am
Sedat Canbaz wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:00 am Breaking News (02.11.2023):
Via latest 6 (six) engine entries...it's time to announce who are first Champions:
Ladies and Gentlemen, we have two Champs...interesting.. rarely happens two..
Yes.. their learning is so effective that non-learning engines are hopeless under
These cond..e.g all Top 5 ranked engines are able to learn... so picture is clear!
And very likely after playing more games, their Elo difference may be increased..
About current win. percentage stats, Whites: 55%, Blacks 45%..so quite normal..
Frankly stats are important..and not all of opening suites produce these values!

Champions: SunLight / Tactical - Congrats to E. Nemeth, A. Ces and SF team!

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-44

Greetings
were you running in gauntlet style or straight up round robin?

if gauntlet then Hazard didn't give u problems i take it? :?

and congratulations to the winners :difus_24
Well, the tour is started with round-robin system
That means mostly games are played in round-robin,
Where the latest entries are played in gauntlet..

Btw, just in case of new entries, which are able to learn...
I plan to test in gauntlet but with concurrent games: 32
In this way, I expect the learning engines to gain more...

About latest Hazard version,
No any crash...all stable so far..
Same words are going for the rest engines too !

Greetings )
:difus_19
you would want to check your mail
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Re: SedatChess

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OrgZ wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 6:06 pm
Sedat Canbaz wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:34 am
OrgZ wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:10 am
Sedat Canbaz wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:00 am Breaking News (02.11.2023):
Via latest 6 (six) engine entries...it's time to announce who are first Champions:
Ladies and Gentlemen, we have two Champs...interesting.. rarely happens two..
Yes.. their learning is so effective that non-learning engines are hopeless under
These cond..e.g all Top 5 ranked engines are able to learn... so picture is clear!
And very likely after playing more games, their Elo difference may be increased..
About current win. percentage stats, Whites: 55%, Blacks 45%..so quite normal..
Frankly stats are important..and not all of opening suites produce these values!

Champions: SunLight / Tactical - Congrats to E. Nemeth, A. Ces and SF team!

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-44

Greetings
were you running in gauntlet style or straight up round robin?

if gauntlet then Hazard didn't give u problems i take it? :?

and congratulations to the winners :difus_24
Well, the tour is started with round-robin system
That means mostly games are played in round-robin,
Where the latest entries are played in gauntlet..

Btw, just in case of new entries, which are able to learn...
I plan to test in gauntlet but with concurrent games: 32
In this way, I expect the learning engines to gain more...

About latest Hazard version,
No any crash...all stable so far..
Same words are going for the rest engines too !

Greetings )
:difus_19
you would want to check your mail
:difus_19

Thanks a lot... and good luck )
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Re: SedatChess

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Sedat Canbaz wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 8:26 pm
OrgZ wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 6:06 pm
Sedat Canbaz wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:34 am
OrgZ wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:10 am
Sedat Canbaz wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:00 am Breaking News (02.11.2023):
Via latest 6 (six) engine entries...it's time to announce who are first Champions:
Ladies and Gentlemen, we have two Champs...interesting.. rarely happens two..
Yes.. their learning is so effective that non-learning engines are hopeless under
These cond..e.g all Top 5 ranked engines are able to learn... so picture is clear!
And very likely after playing more games, their Elo difference may be increased..
About current win. percentage stats, Whites: 55%, Blacks 45%..so quite normal..
Frankly stats are important..and not all of opening suites produce these values!

Champions: SunLight / Tactical - Congrats to E. Nemeth, A. Ces and SF team!

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-44

Greetings
:difus_24
were you running in gauntlet style or straight up round robin?

if gauntlet then Hazard didn't give u problems i take it? :?

and congratulations to the winners :difus_24
Well, the tour is started with round-robin system
That means mostly games are played in round-robin,
Where the latest entries are played in gauntlet..

Btw, just in case of new entries, which are able to learn...
I plan to test in gauntlet but with concurrent games: 32
In this way, I expect the learning engines to gain more...

About latest Hazard version,
No any crash...all stable so far..
Same words are going for the rest engines too !

Greetings )
:difus_19
you would want to check your mail
:difus_19

Thanks a lot... and good luck )
:difus_24
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Re: SedatChess

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Breaking News (03.11.2023):
Current championship ended..congratulations and many thanks to all authors!
Via latest entry..the standings are changed exc.for Tactical, Leading as before..
In same time managed to be win the current CS.. really amazing performance!
2nd rank belongs to two engines: DarkSister+SunLight, 3rd to new Raid version
Normally the plan was to work a little bit more over this tour...but I think that it's
Not required..because latest entries are starting as without any pre-learned exp..
Where constant Top players are already playing with own pre-learned exp files!
In other words, not so fair... e.g in Gauntlet: if the entry is learning engine then
Its learning is not so effective..due to matches are playing at high concurrency..
For solving all these issues (for more fair and better conditions) I have to run all
These CS in Round Robin systems...and organizing via two separate contests..
Learning / NON-Learning League, sure in NON-Learning tour, Gauntlet can be
Btw, as I stated before, Learning is very affective with weak positions and after
Serious number of games plus with small number of openings..so under these
Cond. Unique suite contains not so weak lines..plus close to 400 openings, so
Here Learning seems to be as advantage, but not so much...and who knows?
Maybe after 5.000 - 10.000 games (per player) the learning will play more role?
Anyhow, even about 1.000 games the learning helps, sure not much but helps!

XLIV's Champion: Tactical 281023 - Congratulations to Anton Ces, SF Team!

FOR FINAL STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-44

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/WwQyTDLa#45qwPQw9i ... P59jXJkMC4


Best,
Sedat
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