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[Sedat Canbaz]

Breaking News (22.10.2023):
1st of all, let's start via Russian proverb: Vek zhivi, vek uchis = Live and learn
Yes.. under these cond. the situation is completely different than recent Results
To be honest, I expected more from Eduard Nemeth's engine (Stockfish 220823 sl)
Same words are going for the rest.. maybe previous learned Exp.. are as reason ?!
Sure, other factors can be..very likely the EXP experts will explain better than Me
But there is one true, under these serious conditions: Eman is said the last word!
Really impressive points...and here I do not think that it is due to Error margin etc.
Note also that all of the participated are learning engines, exc. SF-Poly 220723

XXXIX Champion: Eman 9.51 - My Congratulations to Khalid Oman, SF team!

For Final Standings, Games, Details etc:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-39

Greetings

Thanks for the tour.

you should know that experience learnt from bullet is terrible. it(engine) wont have good games in longer time control if experience book is on and games which are in the xxx.exp are from bullet.

You are welcome..and thanks for your valuable comments

Yes.. you have right...anyhow as far as I remember,
Mr. Anton Ces has different view...he said something like
Previous learned exp data (Bullet, Blitz etc) will not make
As negative role over the next new results...

Of course,
Not sure...maybe he was meaning for his learning engines

Greetings )

[OrgZ]

hence i said if experience book is enabled. but if its not the engine will not follows bullets moves Mr Sedat. if you can check his engines most of them have it OFF

[Sedat Canbaz]

hence i said if experience book is enabled. but if its not the engine will not follows bullets moves Mr Sedat. if you can check his engines most of them have it OFF

Ok.. so as conclusion (for EXP files..) for max. performance:
Bullet games, 1 core = they have to be played via close cond.
Or as other example,
Blitz games, MP = they have to be played via close conditions

One thing more,
Any created exp file will do its best for his used test cond.
I mean..if you sent a EXP (generated on your hardware...)
It will be not so suitable (in strength) for my hardware, right ?
Since our used hardwares etc. are not same ...

Greetings

[OrgZ]

hence i said if experience book is enabled. but if its not the engine will not follows bullets moves Mr Sedat. if you can check his engines most of them have it OFF

Ok.. so as conclusion (for EXP files..) for max. performance:
Bullet games, 1 core = they have to be played via close cond.
Or as other example,
Blitz games, MP = they have to be played via close conditions

One thing more,
Any created exp file will do its best for his used test cond.
I mean..if you sent a EXP (generated on your hardware...)
It will be not so suitable (in strength) for my hardware, right ?
Since our used hardwares etc. are not same ...

Greetings

yup, your hardware is 64 times greater than mine.

[Sedat Canbaz]

hence i said if experience book is enabled. but if its not the engine will not follows bullets moves Mr Sedat. if you can check his engines most of them have it OFF

Ok.. so as conclusion (for EXP files..) for max. performance:
Bullet games, 1 core = they have to be played via close cond.
Or as other example,
Blitz games, MP = they have to be played via close conditions

One thing more,
Any created exp file will do its best for his used test cond.
I mean..if you sent a EXP (generated on your hardware...)
It will be not so suitable (in strength) for my hardware, right ?
Since our used hardwares etc. are not same ...

Greetings

yup, your hardware is 64 times greater than mine.

Do not worry ) since the Duel will be not your hardware vs mine

Greetings )

[OrgZ]

hence i said if experience book is enabled. but if its not the engine will not follows bullets moves Mr Sedat. if you can check his engines most of them have it OFF

Ok.. so as conclusion (for EXP files..) for max. performance:
Bullet games, 1 core = they have to be played via close cond.
Or as other example,
Blitz games, MP = they have to be played via close conditions

One thing more,
Any created exp file will do its best for his used test cond.
I mean..if you sent a EXP (generated on your hardware...)
It will be not so suitable (in strength) for my hardware, right ?
Since our used hardwares etc. are not same ...

Greetings

yup, your hardware is 64 times greater than mine.

Do not worry ) since the Duel will be not your hardware vs mine

Greetings )

[Sedat Canbaz]

Breaking News (23.10.2023):
Another new championship with same Top players of XXXIX, as main difference
This time without Pre-Learned Exp files..on other hand, sure theirs learning was
Enabled during game play.. Btw, current matches are played under Banksia GUI
Reason, Cutechess 1.3.1 does not use so properly the openings in Round-Robin:
Sequential..where under Banksia GUI all worked flawlessly..ok..tour is still active
As next entry SF-Poly 220723.. and let's see Eman 9.51 will manage to win again ?!
Be aware of that exactly same Unique openings used, which played in recent tour...

XXXX's Current Leader: Eman 9.51 - Congratulations to Khalid Omar, SF team!

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-40

Greetings )

[Sedat Canbaz]

Update

Via latest entry (SF-Poly 220723): Eman is again Champ..(+0.5 point over SpecTral)
Be aware of that the same 40 (forty) openings used, which played in recent tour..
And I picked especially those openings, which managed to win as White+ Black,
But players which are close to 3750+ Elo..actually all Unique openings created
In same way...but other rest openings are based on 3700+ (White+Black's wins)
Ok..friends, BIG thanks and congratulations to all authors..keep up the good work

XXXX's Champion: Eman 9.51 - Congratulations to Khalid Omar, SF team!

For FINAL Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-40

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/zswnTbaS#qH7N0u4Ym ... Z8PGjPdIlQ

Best,
Sedat

[Homayoun]

Update

Via latest entry (SF-Poly 220723): Eman is again Champ..(+0.5 point over SpecTral)
Be aware of that the same 40 (forty) openings used, which played in recent tour..
And I picked especially those openings, which managed to win as White+ Black,
But players which are close to 3750+ Elo..actually all Unique openings created
In same way...but other rest openings are based on 3700+ (White+Black's wins)
Ok..friends, BIG thanks and congratulations to all authors..keep up the good work

XXXX's Champion: Eman 9.51 - Congratulations to Khalid Omar, SF team!

For FINAL Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-40

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/zswnTbaS#qH7N0u4Ym ... Z8PGjPdIlQ

Best,
Sedat

Many thanks, very interesting and strong tournament.
Greetings

[Sedat Canbaz]

Update

Via latest entry (SF-Poly 220723): Eman is again Champ..(+0.5 point over SpecTral)
Be aware of that the same 40 (forty) openings used, which played in recent tour..
And I picked especially those openings, which managed to win as White+ Black,
But players which are close to 3750+ Elo..actually all Unique openings created
In same way...but other rest openings are based on 3700+ (White+Black's wins)
Ok..friends, BIG thanks and congratulations to all authors..keep up the good work

XXXX's Champion: Eman 9.51 - Congratulations to Khalid Omar, SF team!

For FINAL Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-40

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/zswnTbaS#qH7N0u4Ym ... Z8PGjPdIlQ

Best,
Sedat

Many thanks, very interesting and strong tournament.
Greetings

As usual, many thanks for your interest..

Yes.. indeed under these serious cond.,
'Luck' plays less importance...because
The Blunder moves are not so much...

But anyhow,
This is as learning eng tour...so I gave some advantage
To the learning chess engines...why I say like that, e.g

1st of all,
Strictly 40 openings used... strong, but not one of strongest ...
However, why Unique suite? .. target is to be produce less draws..
In same time, other important target: Error Elo margin to be less...

2nd, SF Poly 220723 is entered after their learned EXP files...
And what about if SF POLY was as player from the 1st rounds etc.
Can we expect gaining same performance of points by learning engines,
Which are managed to be ranked at higher ranks than SF Poly ?

3rd, what about if we use stronger openings (like Balsa suite) ?)
Then I wonder, their engine learning influence wold be so effective?

Just in case..I guess
It would be just as mystery to see who will be Champ !

In other words,
EXP files are as 'caprice ladies' and it all depends on the gentleman..
E.g If you choose the wrong gift..you'll have no much chances at all ))

Greetings