SedatChess
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Re: SedatChess
Btw, just small...but as friendly advise,
It's time the new generation, especially who are in new in eng testings
To take some examples (as lessons)...as my current sharing system way!
Because learning process is nothing bad...including humans as well...!!
Greetings
It's time the new generation, especially who are in new in eng testings
To take some examples (as lessons)...as my current sharing system way!
Because learning process is nothing bad...including humans as well...!!
Greetings
Re: SedatChess
Thanks, Mr. SedatSedat Canbaz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2023 1:29 pmUpdate 2
Well, finely I've managed to share the recent SCCT results...
Note also that,
Both Top engines are played via default settings, exception
Move overhead: 100, Cores 8, Syzygy 4-MEN, 4 GB hash etc.
Plus Eman 8.91 is played via Experience MultiPV as disabled
What I can say more,
35 Elo difference (SCCT vs Deeds) is too much...interesting!
I mean regarding..if we are going to compare with Deeds test:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3675
Download all games, exp files, screenshots:
https://mega.nz/file/jkRHGYQZ#nXGR60IR7 ... _Wteol4E6Y
Best,
Sedat
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Re: SedatChess
Source:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3554&p=29192#p29192
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3554&p=29192#p29192
botunnet wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:49 amUnintentionally, a daily tester made a little ad for (your) experience files !
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN 1 RapTora 2.2 8c : 17 29 157.0 300 52.3 23 268 9 89.3 0 1 2 Eman 8.91 8c : 0 ---- 143.0 300 47.7 9 268 23 89.3 17 1 White advantage = 35.24 +/- 14.01 Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00 eman 8.91 8c : avg. D31, 001 959 ms/move, 000 300 games, 00 015 340 moves raptora 2.2 8c : avg. D31, 001 826 ms/move, 000 300 games, 00 015 366 moves Averages : 0 194 sec/game (3 min/game) 123 plies/game (102 played plies/game) Game stages : - opening @ avg. D27, 002 943 ms/move - middleg @ avg. D30, 001 704 ms/move - endgame @ avg. D37, 001 216 ms/move
SCCT's conditions :
- without an experience file trained on the match's opening list
- Concurrency > 1 with learning engine
- Eman 8.91 set to default settings Experience Book false training mode, stronger/newer NNUE net than Raptora
- RapTora 2.2 set to default settings Experience Book true tourney mode, weaker/older NNUE net than Eman
Under SCCT's conditions, even with a stronger/newer net, an engine can't win.
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Re: SedatChess
Hey Chameleon,
1st of all,
Don't use your 'perforated' UMBRELLA anymore!
Since already no any RAINING on the horizon )))
I mean it's already perfectly clear that
Deeds = botunnet
And next time,
If you are man...come with real, genuine name!!
Otherwise,
I'm not going to talk any more with your fake account..!
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Re: SedatChess
Meanwhile,
As other very important reference about
SCCT's used conditions are faster and
Better in quality than Deeds conditions:
E.g SCCT average move length: 61
In Deeds average move length: 64
If not clear,
E.g as usual, on faster machines,
The overall played length moves
Are ending in less moves...!!
Proved, guaranteed...!!
And that's why I'm much surprised:
2x EPYC 7B12's 8 Cores are faster
Than 2x E5-2660 v3's 40 Threads
And now I wonder much, (in reality)
Deeds testings are with 40 threads?
Is there any PROVE ?) maybe again
Deeds is fooling all of us here ?))
E.g RapTora is used. 32 threads
Where Eman is used: 40 threads
Or other scenario:
E.g RapTora is used. 24 threads
Where Eman is used: 30 threads
Etc. and etc.
Btw, why Deeds is not using Fritz GUIs ?
Frankly I'd prefer Fritz GUI, if nothing else
NPS values are perfectly clear...
On other hand, I used Cutechess GUI
Mainly due to offers a concurrent option...
Otherwise, I'd run Fritz GUI for sure !!
Greetings
As other very important reference about
SCCT's used conditions are faster and
Better in quality than Deeds conditions:
E.g SCCT average move length: 61
In Deeds average move length: 64
If not clear,
E.g as usual, on faster machines,
The overall played length moves
Are ending in less moves...!!
Proved, guaranteed...!!
And that's why I'm much surprised:
2x EPYC 7B12's 8 Cores are faster
Than 2x E5-2660 v3's 40 Threads
And now I wonder much, (in reality)
Deeds testings are with 40 threads?
Is there any PROVE ?) maybe again
Deeds is fooling all of us here ?))
E.g RapTora is used. 32 threads
Where Eman is used: 40 threads
Or other scenario:
E.g RapTora is used. 24 threads
Where Eman is used: 30 threads
Etc. and etc.
Btw, why Deeds is not using Fritz GUIs ?
Frankly I'd prefer Fritz GUI, if nothing else
NPS values are perfectly clear...
On other hand, I used Cutechess GUI
Mainly due to offers a concurrent option...
Otherwise, I'd run Fritz GUI for sure !!
Greetings
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Re: SedatChess
Hello Chess Friends,
I'm pleased to announce,
Here is my latest tutorial:
For anyone missed, interested for previous part 1:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3648&start=100
Best,
Sedat
I'm pleased to announce,
Here is my latest tutorial:
For anyone missed, interested for previous part 1:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3648&start=100
Best,
Sedat
Re: SedatChess
Great, best regards!
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