SedatChess

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Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:42 pm

One thing more (for anyone missed),

Just I'd like to point also that, exception:
BrainLearn, Eman, L.Beast, RaptTora, SugaR etc.
Here are some of my tested old chess engines,
Which have learning future too, I mean all of
Them are able to learn (during game play)!
Note also that the learning future in some
Older or newer versions are not supported...

Arasan
Aristarch
Crafty
Giraffe
Hiarcs
Frenzee
Romichess
Shredder
Spike
The Baron
Yace

Source (SCCT - Ratings / Tournaments):
https://sites.google.com/site/computerschess/ratings
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... ournaments

More Details:
I test Learning Engines since a long period,
Minus plus 25 years for sure! on other hand,
Recently we noticed that the new generation
in Computer Chess started to give lessons e.g:
About Hash size, Concurrent, LP, Valid test...
That was good actually..in this way, we could
Improve our work...but what a pity that so
Far their comments did not make much sense!
Because as I mentioned before,
Papers and Reality are 2 different things!

Greetings

EmptikBest
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Re: SedatChess

Post by EmptikBest » Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:36 am

Hi,

When will be the next book tournament? I would like to participate with my private book. Is there any size limit on books? Just asking as my book is over 3GB

Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:12 pm

EmptikBest wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:36 am
Hi,

When will be the next book tournament? I would like to participate with my private book. Is there any size limit on books? Just asking as my book is over 3GB
Hello,

Many thanks for your interest...
But I test BIN books as usual up to 250 MB (compressed)

Greetings

EmptikBest
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Re: SedatChess

Post by EmptikBest » Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:55 am

Nevermind. After merging for some reason it is less than 3GB. Is approximately 1GB uncompressed fine? Thanks

Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:39 pm

EmptikBest wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:55 am
Nevermind. After merging for some reason it is less than 3GB. Is approximately 1GB uncompressed fine? Thanks
Sorry for the late replay..

Due to SIZE rules,
Unfortunately if close to 1 GB (uncompressed) is not allowed...
That means your book is minus plus 440 MB (compressed), right ?

Note also that, as BONUS:
Usually up to 500 MB (compressed)
I can accept by frequent book authors

Thanks for your understanding

EmptikBest
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Re: SedatChess

Post by EmptikBest » Fri Aug 18, 2023 12:01 pm

It is 1GB D:

Compressed in RAR is 565 MB, best compression method possible using all my 30 threads... Does that mean I cant participate?

Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Fri Aug 18, 2023 12:18 pm

EmptikBest wrote:
Fri Aug 18, 2023 12:01 pm
It is 1GB D:

Compressed in RAR is 565 MB, best compression method possible using all my 30 threads... Does that mean I cant participate?
Yes..normally for new incomers,
Up to 250 MB (compressed)

But you have plenty of free time, because
I plan to resume my tours in September...so
You may send a newer, but a smaller book...

Greetings

Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Fri Aug 18, 2023 12:47 pm

Hello Friends,

By the way, let Me say please to OpenChess's readers:
Another non-chess, but as interesting story of my life!
Yes..this story is one of most amazing, unforgettable..!
And I hope also that you will like it as well...

Ok.. let's give a start...)

1st of all, this unusual story belongs to 1996 or 1997 year!
In those times, I've met a very special foreign customer!
In short, a pair (man + woman) are visited my store...
While his wife was examining and trying our leather
Products, both (me+him) were drinking a cup of coffee,
Btw, he admitted that they were in many shops, but they
Could not select...due to his wife is slightly caprice lady )
And during our 1st conversations...he is stated like this:
Of course, if my wife will like...I may predict before
The exact price of X leather product, which I'll buy...
Sure after all the process of bargains, discounts etc...and
After his saying.. I was too much surprised, so I've asked him
As twice (against any confusions) but he stated same words..
So...later, when we noticed that his wife is started to like
Some of our products..then simply he wrote the price
As secretly on a paper, he placed it under the ashtray...
Of course, the price was invisibly...and after all:
He said something like that to Me:
Say only last price, but via discount, otherwise, I'll not buy...

Meanwhile,
During our conversations (each other) he kindly requested
To be not allowed other people to be close to us..because
Some others showed a BIG interest..about what is going on..
In other words, he tried to be comfortably..and said like:
Too many cooks spoil the stew

And to be more clear (about the interested product...)
If I'm not wrong, the ticket price was close to 1700 usd,
Where I realized to give a price (with discount): 1200 usd
And after...he accepted..(he did not ask for more discount)
Sure after checking the same paper, which was under ashtray..
I've noticed that his wrote price is exactly as same: 1200 usd
Really I was very shocked...yes..I've seen many different
Customers..but this story...it's simply just unbelievable !!
I still wonder, how this customer is managed to predict...?!
Because he was visiting as customers as 1st time the store!

By the way,
While before saying 'Good-Bye' (to each others) he asked Me
To bend slightly and he cutted/took a little bit of my hairs!
He said like that, I will pray for you... plus he said like:
After some years that my 6th sense will be very strong...
On other hand, it seems that this great customer was right..
Sure I can't predict like him...) but I think that,
My 6th sense is not so bad, if nothing else many say so!

Note also that,
The same customer visited Me in next year..and once more
I've enjoyed much to see him again... because in our life,
A similar people are unique and not coming so frequent!

Thank you for reading )

Best,
Sedat

Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Aug 19, 2023 9:40 am

Image

Hello there )

1st of all,
The above screenshot belongs to SCCT's new live matches:
Eman 8.91 8 Cores vs RapTora 2.2 8 Cores

To be more clear,
I've done my best to adapt to Deeds recent played matches,
E.g Deeds test results are ended +19 Elo in favor for Eman
And very soon, we will see under SCCT conditions...about
What will be the final results: Eman or RapTora will win..?!

On other hand,,
Sure I can't say that SCCT used conditions are same as
Deeds's conditions e.g one of main differences is that
I played via Large Pages as disabled, this is really as
Very important factor! e.g as I stated earlier: in case of
Long-running matches: we can't expect so much accurate
Results (sure I'm referring if as Large Pages as enabled)
Where according to Deeds: he used as Large Pages enabled
And in the current screenshot: NPS values are clear about
The power speed of 2x EPYC 7B12 machine: av. 10.000 kN/s
Sure if we run a test with fast 8 (eight) physical cores!

By the way,
Higher kN/s values (HT/SMT ON) don't mean better in chess!
And for anyone missed (based on various benchmark results),
E.g in chess, physical cores solved better than logical threads:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... benchmarks

As another main difference is that (between SCCT and Deeds),
Very soon, I hope to release the latest generated exp files!
Where Deeds is refused to share...not sure why?! but my 6th
Strong sense says that we'll see Deeds test as not so valid!

And please stay tuned, very soon more info, games, exp etc!

Greetings )

Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Aug 19, 2023 1:29 pm

Update 2

Well, finely I've managed to share the recent SCCT results...

Note also that,
Both Top engines are played via default settings, exception
Move overhead: 100, Cores 8, Syzygy 4-MEN, 4 GB hash etc.
Plus Eman 8.91 is played via Experience MultiPV as disabled

What I can say more,
35 Elo difference (SCCT vs Deeds) is too much...interesting!
I mean regarding..if we are going to compare with Deeds test:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3675

Image

Download all games, exp files, screenshots:
https://mega.nz/file/jkRHGYQZ#nXGR60IR7 ... _Wteol4E6Y


Best,
Sedat

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