
deeds_chess_system
Re: training mode (Eman) with tourney mode (Raptora)
During round 3, Eman tested novelties around the 31st move of each opening :


Re: training mode (Eman) with tourney mode (Raptora)
"3 rounds" it means each opening was only played 6 times (3 as white, 3 as black) but under luxurious* training's conditions, it does damage very quickly :
29-13 for Eman which already learned about 1/5th** of each opening of the Unique v50 opening's list !
It was not a very good idea to configure the default settings of an engine for tourney and let it coming without an experience file trained on the tourney's openings :

link : games
pass : 6ZjmzPpBv-vL21f3klcSJA
ps :
* lossless experience data (=concurrency 1), 40 threads/engine, hyperthreading on, large page on, numa on, ponder off, 4 GB hash, partial syzygy 7-men, etc.
** 24% = 100% * 31th / 128 moves/game
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Eman_260723.exp (Eman 8.40) : 19 28 158.0 300 52.7 29 258 13 86.0 0 1
2 Raptora_250723.exp (RapTora 2.2) : 0 ---- 142.0 300 47.3 13 258 29 86.0 19 1
White advantage = 44.76 +/- 13.88
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
It was not a very good idea to configure the default settings of an engine for tourney and let it coming without an experience file trained on the tourney's openings :

link : games
pass : 6ZjmzPpBv-vL21f3klcSJA
ps :
* lossless experience data (=concurrency 1), 40 threads/engine, hyperthreading on, large page on, numa on, ponder off, 4 GB hash, partial syzygy 7-men, etc.
** 24% = 100% * 31th / 128 moves/game
Re: opening book vs experience file
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess-gui 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : Jeroen Noomen's 50 tcec season 22 superfinal openings
link : games
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
software : cutechess-gui 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : Jeroen Noomen's 50 tcec season 22 superfinal openings
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 97 57 61.5 100 61.5 32 59 9 59.0 0 1
2 Optimus 3.1.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 38.5 100 38.5 9 59 32 59.0 97 1
White advantage = 146.26 +/- 29.74
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
Re: pawn-value based exp file vs polyglot bin book
pawn-value based experience file : experience data purely trained by Eman engine until 8.40 release (before Nov 5, 2022 patch)
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess-gui 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : startpos
Opening list : GHPPN's 15 most popular openings (Optimus 3.1's Opening Rate : 27%)
Opening list : 20 first legal moves (Optimus 3.1's Opening Rate : 25%)
Opening list : Albert Silver's 25 gambit suit (Optimus 3.1's Opening Rate : 8%)
Opening list : Jeroen Noomen's 50 tcec season 22 superfinal openings (Optimus 3.1's Opening Rate : 2%)
link : games
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess-gui 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : startpos
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 0 49 50.0 100 50.0 0 100 0 100.0 0 1
2 Optimus 3.1.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 50.0 100 50.0 0 100 0 100.0 0 1
White advantage = 0.00 +/- 25.05
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
Opening list : GHPPN's 15 most popular openings (Optimus 3.1's Opening Rate : 27%)
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 0 92 15.0 30 50.0 0 30 0 100.0 0 1
2 Optimus 3.1.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 15.0 30 50.0 0 30 0 100.0 0 1
White advantage = 0.00 +/- 46.89
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
Opening list : 20 first legal moves (Optimus 3.1's Opening Rate : 25%)
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 9 81 20.5 40 51.3 2 37 1 92.5 0 1
2 Optimus 3.1.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 19.5 40 48.8 1 37 2 92.5 9 1
White advantage = -26.35 +/- 40.96
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
Opening list : Albert Silver's 25 gambit suit (Optimus 3.1's Opening Rate : 8%)
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 42 70 28.0 50 56.0 11 34 5 68.0 0 1
2 Optimus 3.1.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 22.0 50 44.0 5 34 11 68.0 42 1
White advantage = 0.00 +/- 35.28
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
Opening list : Jeroen Noomen's 50 tcec season 22 superfinal openings (Optimus 3.1's Opening Rate : 2%)
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 97 57 61.5 100 61.5 32 59 9 59.0 0 1
2 Optimus 3.1.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 38.5 100 38.5 9 59 32 59.0 97 1
White advantage = 146.26 +/- 29.74
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
Re: pawn-value based exp file vs polyglot bin book
Overall :
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 33 27 175.0 320 54.7 45 260 15 81.3 0 1
2 Optimus 3.1.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 145.0 320 45.3 15 260 45 81.3 33 1
White advantage = 37.71 +/- 13.44
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
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002 players : avg. D31, 002 124 ms/move, 000 320 games, 00 033 122 moves
depth4_190623 (eman 8.40) : avg. D30, 001 930 ms/move, 000 320 games, 00 018 197 moves
optimus 3.1 (eman 8.40) : avg. D32, 002 359 ms/move, 000 320 games, 00 014 925 moves
Averages :
0 220 sec/game (4 min/game)
123 plies/game (104 played plies/game)
Game stages :
- opening @ avg. D27, 003 592 ms/move
- middleg @ avg. D29, 001 662 ms/move
- endgame @ avg. D36, 001 165 ms/move
Re: training mode (Eman) with tourney mode (Raptora)
When in fact Anton thinks this :Anton wrote: ...The point for Deeds, and I understand, is that he goes through rigorous training...
...Powerful training examples...
...It only remains to learn how to use the tools that Deeds has left in his repository on GitHub, work on the training of the engine, and have patience, this takes time. But, it's worth it...
As no one has forgotten Anton's collaboration with AlexChess (chess2u), no one was surprised that Anton was now in contact with Sedat.Anton wrote: ...a year and a half of work and of course Deeds' work is an absolute waste of time...
Yes ! You read well, Sedat, the same unenlighted daily tester who, after we showed evidences that SCCT's conditions only have 50% of conformity with Rulleeeee's experience file, confessed :
The good news is that all these people look alike and therefore come together, so it's easier to avoid them.Sedat wrote: ...
Frankly, I have no any idea About what you are talking...
...
So, all of your published screenshots... Are meaningless...at least for my side!
...
Re: opening book vs experience file
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess-gui 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : startpos
link : games
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
software : cutechess-gui 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : startpos
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 0 49 50.0 100 50.0 0 100 0 100.0 0 1
2 Canseven-140223.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 50.0 100 50.0 0 100 0 100.0 0 1
White advantage = 0.00 +/- 25.05
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
Re: opening book vs experience file
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : GHPPN's 15 most popular openings
link : games
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : GHPPN's 15 most popular openings
Code: Select all
# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 0 92 15.0 30 50.0 0 30 0 100.0 0 1
2 Canseven-140223.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 15.0 30 50.0 0 30 0 100.0 0 1
White advantage = 0.00 +/- 46.89
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
Re: opening book vs experience file
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : 20 first legal moves
link : games
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : 20 first legal moves
Code: Select all
# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 18 81 21.0 40 52.5 3 36 1 90.0 0 1
2 Canseven-140223.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 19.0 40 47.5 1 36 3 90.0 18 1
White advantage = -35.26 +/- 40.81
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
Re: opening book vs experience file
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : Albert Silver's 25 gambit suit
link : games
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : Albert Silver's 25 gambit suit
Code: Select all
# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 50 69 28.5 50 57.0 11 35 4 70.0 0 1
2 Canseven-140223.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 21.5 50 43.0 4 35 11 70.0 50 1
White advantage = 21.47 +/- 35.47
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw