deeds_chess_system
Re: opening book vs experience file
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess-gui 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : startpos
link : games
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
software : cutechess-gui 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : startpos
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 0 49 50.0 100 50.0 0 100 0 100.0 0 1
2 hcanfree-upd.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 50.0 100 50.0 0 100 0 100.0 0 1
White advantage = 0.00 +/- 25.05
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
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Re: opening book vs experience file
Sorry to say that,deeds wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:55 pm hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess-gui 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : startposlink : gamesCode: Select all
# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN 1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 0 49 50.0 100 50.0 0 100 0 100.0 0 1 2 hcanfree-upd.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 50.0 100 50.0 0 100 0 100.0 0 1 White advantage = 0.00 +/- 25.05 Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
On what kind of planet do you live ? if not so clear:
You are running via completely unfair conditions!
Private vs Public.. hehe ))
Come on SCCT conditions...and let's see
Under real Arena.. what is going on...!
Re: opening book vs experience file
And it was only a little "warmup" with Eman only set by default (=training mode).
I didn't even need to use the experience file as a book so Depth4_190623.exp often had less time to play.
But hey, I'm nice, the games are available...
For engine trainers :

Yes, you read well !
From the start position (=no opening moves or others), with only 80% of conformity with the experience data of Depth4_190623.exp, it was enough to draw it.
I didn't even need to use the experience file as a book so Depth4_190623.exp often had less time to play.
But hey, I'm nice, the games are available...
For engine trainers :

Yes, you read well !
From the start position (=no opening moves or others), with only 80% of conformity with the experience data of Depth4_190623.exp, it was enough to draw it.
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Re: opening book vs experience file
Game are available.. hehe...deeds wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:22 pm And it was only a little "warmup" with Eman only set by default (=training mode).
I didn't even need to use the experience file as a book so Depth4_190623.exp often had less time to play.
But hey, I'm nice, the games are available...
For engine trainers :
Yes, you read well !
From the start position (=no opening moves or others), with only 80% of conformity with the experience data of Depth4_190623.exp, it was enough to draw it.
Please just do not try to FOOLl Me .. OK ?
The way, which I work since many years...
Believe Me...You even did not start!
Games ? you are really very funny...)))
Even if they are available...in PGN, CBH etc.
it does not mean that:
Your current played match conditions are fair....
Why you do not share your exp file ?
Where other chess friends may benefit...
Be generous at least once...
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Re: deeds_chess_system
Dear Deeds
Why are you using Eman 8.40 and not using a newer version, or another engine.
Can I use Little Beast 3 sl with Eman experience?
Why are you using Eman 8.40 and not using a newer version, or another engine.
Can I use Little Beast 3 sl with Eman experience?
Re: deeds_chess_system
Sorry but i'm training 5 different engines at the time and i trained until 6 different engines if i count JudaS...hungtranvn wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:01 am Dear Deeds
Why are you using Eman 8.40 and not using a newer version, or another engine.
Because :hungtranvn wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:01 am Dear Deeds
Why are you using Eman 8.40 and not using a newer version, or another engine.
- since the Normalize evaluation patch of Nov 5, 2022, the scores of Eman 8.50 (and newer release) are based on a WDL model (based on fishtest's games = Stockfish selfplay)
- this WDL model is not very accurate
- this WDL model is modified several times/year
- at this period (November, 2022), i had already got between 14M to 17M "pawn-based" Eman scores and i don't want to pollule my Eman.exp file with "ephemeral wdl-based" scores from Stockfish selfplay games
- depending on the chosen opening list, learning engines showed gains from +50 to +200 elo and since there aren't +50 elo difference between Eman 8.40 and Eman 8.92, there wasn't urgency to loose the fruits of my 7 learning sessions
- i reinforced (and i'm reinforcing yet) at D40 the experience data of Eman 8.40 which has proven its fantastic resistance on odd TC and against books, here again, there wasn't urgency
Re: deeds_chess_system
I advise you to use a non-merged experience file trained by its own engine.
There are already too many unfair people like :
- Alex who merged igor.exp (eman engine) with sarona.exp (sarona engine) and renamed it to ProteusSF.exp
- Sedat who renamed Khalid's eman.exp to StockfishMZ.exp
- Sedat who renamed ProteusSF.exp to StockfishMZ.exp
- etc
Re: opening book vs experience file
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : GHPPN's 15 most popular openings
link : games
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men
Opening list : GHPPN's 15 most popular openings
Code: Select all
# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) W D L D(%) OppAvg OppN
1 Depth4_190623.exp (Eman 8.40) : 0 92 15.0 30 50.0 0 30 0 100.0 0 1
2 hcanfree-upd.bin (Eman 8.40) : 0 ---- 15.0 30 50.0 0 30 0 100.0 0 1
White advantage = 0.00 +/- 46.89
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
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Re: deeds_chess_system
Thanks a lot.
But I use the Little Beast 3 SL with the new Experience File from the beginning, not Merged Experience File, according to you, is it good?
But I use the Little Beast 3 SL with the new Experience File from the beginning, not Merged Experience File, according to you, is it good?