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Re: SedatChess

Post by deeds » Thu Mar 27, 2025 9:54 pm

Sedat wrote: If Deeds is going to buy the commercial books,
I suppose in short time (probably in 48 hours)
The paid books will be in the hands of Deeds !!
So here 'free time' can not be as issue!!
Yes, free time is a problem because it tooks me weeks to train an engine with a book as opponent. I already have more than 60 books pending. Enough work for a lifetime.
That's why i said :
deeds wrote:
Thu Mar 27, 2025 2:08 pm
I don't have time to waste testing their commercial/private books

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Re: SedatChess

Post by deeds » Thu Mar 27, 2025 10:04 pm

Sedat wrote: Moreover, Deeds will be not able to beat them ))
To train engines, I use books and engines as opponents. Nobody beats anyone. Bin books and exp files are not engines, so they have no strength or elo. They are databases so they have varying degrees of accuracy on a given topic, that's all.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by deeds » Thu Mar 27, 2025 10:17 pm

Sedat wrote: But I admit too that in latest years:
Mainly Bullet used, for less draws!
This is the so-called SedatChess blunder's lottery ! :lol:

Sedat is so intent on hiding the "books are drawish" reality that he creates random conditions to create a winner. Book authors get free games with blunders due to shallow depths, low threads, lack of time. Sedat gets thanks (not from all book's authors) and increases his view's counter (very important for him). Engines trainers laugh. Everyone is happy.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Mar 27, 2025 10:26 pm

@ to Deeds

I'm not going any further discussion, to argue with you, since
We've reached the point of disagreement in almost all aspects!
So best way to stay far away to each other...thanks in advance

And I promise to NOT test anymore any database by you, exc.
Just in case.. if you'll blame my name, work, tournaments etc.
Then I do not promise to be so kind against you! Hope helps!

Bye-Bye

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:07 am

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Hello Chess Friends,

Here is just another exciting NNUE championship!
Which will be started very soon, probably today..

And as Participants,
As far as possible with minimum 3700+ Elo points,
Mainly new vers but up to 40 MB (uncompressed)

Meanwhile,
Why SIZE rules are ON again? just for more fair cond.!
Otherwise, imagine e.g such as 5 MB Vs 100 MB or as
Other logical example, 48 kg Wrestler vs 120 kg Wrestler ?!)
Then I hardly doubt that the matches will be so fair..sure
Current cond. are not perfect...but if anyone has better
Tour ideas..just let Me know please.. thanks in advance )

And here are the planning Top chess engines:

Alexandria 8.0 by Zuppa, CJ and Contributors
Berserk 100325 by Jay Honnold
Caissa 1.21.7 by Michal Witanowski
Horsie 1.0 by Liam McGuire
Integral 7.0.0 by Aron Petkovski
KomodoDragon 3.2 by Komodo team
Neon Tetra 2.1 by Tanick Ramz, SF team
Obsidian 15.09 by Gabriele Lombardo
PlentyChess 5.0 by Yoshie2000
RubiChess 170824 by Andreas Matthies
SF-Mini 140325 by Anton Ces, SF team
Viridithas 16.0.0 by Cosmo


Good luck to all..

Greetings )

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Fri Mar 28, 2025 1:26 pm

UPDATE

The current Leader: PlentyChess 5 - Congrats to Yoshie2000!

And it seems PlentyChess is improved a lot..anyhow no
Any idea what will be final results... since the tour is just
In beginning..e.g each player will consist min. 500 games

Note also that
I realized to include also Redfish 240122 (by SF team), where
I miss to install Neon Tetra 2.1... but it will be tested later...

And here are 1st LIVE results:

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 PlentyChess 5.0                51      35      62   57.3%   82.3% 
   2 Obsidian 15.09                 33      34      63   54.8%   84.1% 
   3 Berserk 100325                 27      23      64   53.9%   92.2% 
   4 Integral 7.0.0                 17      32      63   52.4%   85.7% 
   5 SF-Mini 140325                 11      27      61   51.6%   90.2% 
   6 Redfish 240122                 11      27      62   51.6%   90.3% 
   7 Caissa 1.21.7                  -5      24      64   49.2%   92.2% 
   8 Horsie 1.0                    -11      35      62   48.4%   83.9% 
   9 Alexandria 8.0                -16      31      65   47.7%   86.2% 
  10 RubiChess 170824              -17      34      60   47.5%   85.0% 
  11 K. Dragon 3.2                 -22      31      62   46.8%   87.1% 
  12 Viridithas 16                 -80      38      62   38.7%   77.4% 

375 of 3036 games finished.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by deeds » Fri Mar 28, 2025 1:33 pm

Sedat wrote: We've reached the point of disagreement in almost all aspects!
Yes because you claimed this :
Sedat wrote: I will create a book, which will be tuned to prefer Depth4 Exp Series, played in latest months of 2025!
source

But when we compare the conformity of your Depth4 2025 BIN book with my Depth4 EXP file, none of your last 3 tests exceed 70% !

Only 65% ! for your test on March 13, 2025 :
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Only 67% ! for your test on March 15, 2025 :
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Only 64% ! for your test on March 16, 2025 :
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Your book creation method has an error's margin greater than 30% !

Yet you had already been warned about this problem at SedatChess :
Rulleeeee_280723.exp

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Fri Mar 28, 2025 2:17 pm

@ To Deeds

I repeat again, but as last time:
My created Depth4 2025 is a BIN book (not Exp)! so it
Will be madness, if its lines to be 100% same as EXP!

And I say again,
Depth4 2025 book is tuned to prefer the games, shared by you!
And it's named as it is..but never mind, since I do not plan to
Touch your databases anymore..but just in case..if you'll blame..
Then you know what will happen?! You'll loose much more than Me!
Moreover, this way (usually via blaming etc.) leads to nowhere!
Besides, I have no more free time to talk over and over!

About your warnings,
Listen, you're so new in my eyes and you have to learn a lot...
And be honest, be polite each time, before contacting anyone,
Because 'honesty is the best policy'

That's all exc. wishing good luck with your business,
But as I stated earlier: please stay far away from Me!

Au revoir )

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Fri Mar 28, 2025 2:31 pm

UPDATE 2

PlentyChess 5 leads as before! but Obsidian, SF-Mini, Alexandria and Berserk
Are very serious candidates to be as next, new Number Ones/s...and I like it!
And I assume you too )

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 PlentyChess 5.0                30      17     265   54.3%   83.8% 
   2 Obsidian 15.09                 29      13     266   54.1%   89.5% 
   3 SF-Mini 140325                 27      14     267   53.9%   88.4% 
   4 Alexandria 8.0                 26      18     265   53.8%   81.9% 
   5 Berserk 100325                 25      16     267   53.6%   85.4% 
   6 Integral 7.0.0                 -1      18     265   49.8%   81.5% 
   7 K. Dragon 3.2                  -7      16     266   49.1%   84.6% 
   8 Redfish 240122                 -7      14     265   49.1%   89.1% 
   9 Caissa 1.21.7                 -10      16     268   48.5%   85.8% 
  10 Horsie 1.0                    -27      15     266   46.1%   86.1% 
  11 Viridithas 16                 -39      16     266   44.4%   85.0% 
  12 RubiChess 170824              -46      18     266   43.4%   80.8% 

1596 of 3036 games finished.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Fri Mar 28, 2025 3:38 pm

UPDATE 3

Current Number One: Obsidian - Congrats to Gabriele Lombardo!

Berserk is just behind as 2nd, 3rd PlentyChess! as we see, hard to predict
What will be next Top rankings, that's why the ongoing CS is so exciting !!

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 Obsidian 15.09                 28      11     432   54.1%   89.1% 
   2 Berserk 100325                 27      12     429   53.8%   85.3% 
   3 PlentyChess 5.0                24      12     432   53.5%   85.2% 
   4 SF-Mini 140325                 20      12     430   52.9%   87.2% 
   5 Alexandria 8.0                 19      13     433   52.8%   84.8% 
   6 Redfish 240122                  2      12     428   50.4%   86.7% 
   7 Integral 7.0.0                 -1      13     430   49.9%   83.5% 
   8 K. Dragon 3.2                  -4      12     430   49.4%   86.3% 
   9 Caissa 1.21.7                  -6      11     430   49.2%   88.1% 
  10 Horsie 1.0                    -21      12     431   47.0%   85.6% 
  11 Viridithas 16                 -43      13     427   43.8%   82.9% 
  12 RubiChess 170824              -47      14     430   43.3%   80.9% 

2581 of 3036 games finished.

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