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Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Fri Jan 24, 2025 11:36 pm

Meanwhile,
Here are new stats generated by EloStat:

General Stats by UHO suite:

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Games        :   6552 (finished)

White Wins   :   5543 (84.6 %)
Black Wins   :     14 ( 0.2 %)
Draws        :    995 (15.2 %)
Unfinished   :      0

White Perf.  : 92.2 %
Black Perf.  : 7.8 %

ECO A =   2674 Games (40.8 %)
ECO B =   2110 Games (32.2 %)
ECO C =    898 Games (13.7 %)
ECO D =    494 Games ( 7.5 %)
ECO E =    376 Games ( 5.7 %)
More Details (about UHO suite statistics):
Not so much changed since years... as we see,
Just only 14 (fourteen) wins are appeared by Blacks,
If I'm not wrong: 'chess' is a game for 2 (two) sides!
But FUN is perfect here, just 15.2% draws!
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General Stats by Balsa + Unique suites:

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[code]Games        :  13104 (finished)

White Wins   :   1247 ( 9.5 %)
Black Wins   :    388 ( 3.0 %)
Draws        :  11469 (87.5 %)
Unfinished   :      0

White Perf.  : 53.3 %
Black Perf.  : 46.7 %

ECO A =   3336 Games (25.5 %)
ECO B =   3472 Games (26.5 %)
ECO C =   4558 Games (34.8 %)
ECO D =    710 Games ( 5.4 %)
ECO E =   1028 Games ( 7.8 %)
More Details (about Balsa + Unique stats):
The overall draws are 87.5%, too much than
UHO suite's produced stats, but if nothing
Else quite normal...reason, my suites are
Very well-tuned for both sides, otherwise
I see not so fair..such as if only Whites
Will win..just in case.. I may call it as chess,
But too far from the reality..perhaps UHO is
Future but still there is a BIG room to be in
Fun as without it... at least for nowadays!

As final words, if you are going to ask Me,
UHO suite is better than Balsa or Unique?
I'd replay, yes for non-serious or fun tests:
Go for UHO suite, but for serious tours:
Undoubtedly use Balsa or Unique suites!
Not sure about you, but frankly for my side,
Quality, Strength and Time matters a lot!

And after all, why I say like that about all over?
Due to 'time' is more valuable than money! sure
Everyone is free..but in case of via weak openings:
Run correct tests, play thousands games, if not..
Waste of time and will be as mystery or lottery to
See regarding which Top chess engine is stronger!

Hope helps...and very soon overall ranking coming..

Best,
Sedat

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:20 am

UPDATE 6

The Champion (Balsa + Unique suites): CorChess - Congratulations to I. Ivec!
Note: Very soon all current played results will be shared at SedatChess site

And here are the overall ranking (merged both stages in one):

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Rank Name               Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Corchess 190125   3822    4    5  2016   53%  3805   89% 
   2 Contact 10 SE     3818    5    5  2016   52%  3806   88% 
   3 SF-PB 221124      3815    5    5  2016   51%  3806   88% 
   4 Kookaburra 3      3815    5    5  2016   51%  3806   87% 
   5 Brainlearn 30     3815    5    5  2016   51%  3806   88% 
   6 Stockfish 190125  3809    5    5  2016   50%  3806   88% 
   7 DarkSeid 5.3      3807    5    5  2016   50%  3807   88% 
   8 Artemis 6 TR      3806    5    5  2016   50%  3807   88% 
   9 Dark SisTer v2    3805    5    5  2016   50%  3807   89% 
  10 Beast M 010125    3801    5    5  2016   49%  3807   86% 
  11 HypnoS++ 1.01     3798    5    5  2016   49%  3807   88% 
  12 SF-PRO 311224     3790    5    4  2016   47%  3808   85% 
  13 JudaS++ 1.01      3785    4    4  2016   46%  3808   85% 
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/6oAkQBjR#TTKFS-5kI ... WKas8VhO14

Conditions:
2x Epyc 7B12, CuteChess, Ponder OFF, 15s+0.3s, 1 Core, 64 Hash, 4 MEN

As final conclusion,
CorChess is with clear margin ahead of the rest opponents..
And actually what does it mean? due to simply as strongest!

But what we noticed also in tour with UHO opening lines?
CotChess performed worse..if I was new in chess..I may believe..
But I'm not..so many years in testings..enough to see the reality!

And I hope also that,
All recent my tours, data, stats to be useful for our community!

Best,
Sedat

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Homayoun » Sat Jan 25, 2025 8:25 am

:difus_19

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:44 am

Homayoun wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 8:25 am
:difus_19

Enjoy :difus_19

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:48 am

UPDATE 7

One thing more, without to not mention this I can't too,
And I will try to summarize all recent testings such as:

Time (learning, practice etc.) plays as important role to be a master..
Besides everyone was once a beginner but not everyone becomes a master!
This is not connected / needed much time to become so good in your job..

Btw, here are great sayings about over: Never send a boy to do a man's job
If still not clear: You can not make a spoon or a whistle from every tree!
And unfortunately there are such guys, who have no clue about what's going..
Actually they may have, but blaming the strong openings, just because they
Are better and stronger..this will be another madness...then may I say simply:
Stockfish or any other super strong engine is not so good.., LOL

And why I say like that? for several reasons, due some fool/s are tried to say
Such as Balsa is not good for determining strength..hehe) anything more else?
And as most strange, they forget to mention that they prefer so weak openings..
Plus they forget to mention also that thousands of games (per player) required!
Really very strange behaviours by these funny guys...actually not so complicated..
E.g in 'reality' is this all true? ok..instead of comments, here the facts are said
The 'last' word and not once..many many times!

And as a friendly advice:
Never stop 'LEARNING' if wish you stay always young and strong!

Best,
Sedat

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Re: SedatChess

Post by ZamChess » Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:17 pm

Thank you Sedat !

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Jan 25, 2025 3:43 pm

ZamChess wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:17 pm
Thank you Sedat !
You are welcome Zam )

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Jan 25, 2025 3:50 pm

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Breaking News (25.01.2025):
New series of tours are organized...Congrats and BIG thanks to all Authors!
What I can add more? SCCT is the right place/ source to gain, to learn a lot..
Sure I'm not going to count all my chess activities, because I may miss, but
Believe Me..TONS of valuable data available and not since today/yesterday,
Since many years...and all for free and just for Computer Chess's progress!

SCCT LVI's Champion: CorChess - Congratulations to I. Ivec & SF team!

For More Details, Games, Final Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-56

And just to be more clear,
Yes...my favorite openings may not be faultless, but this is also true that
They rarely make mistakes and proved not once, not twice, many times!
Btw, as reference (for anyone missed...) here is one of tourneys: Results
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... deep-books
If you need more references...just let Me know please.. with pleasure )

On other hand (regarding the test via UHO openings),
Here I expected Stockfish to win due highly is tuned via UHO series..


Greetings

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sun Jan 26, 2025 3:40 pm

UPDATE

Meanwhile,
If you need any further information (related with my activities: tours, books, suites etc.),
Please feel free to contact Me...I'm ready to help... since I'm frequent member here...

And against any confusions, I have a small request:
Do not copy/paste my activities to other threads, sites..

Thank you!

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:11 pm

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Hello there again )

This is an old testing, related with various test suite openings,
But anyhow, for anyone missed, you can check, learn about
What is going on.. in case of running 100 games (per match)..
Besides..if you missed, it's not end.. better late than never !)

For these reasons, sure if your main target to run 'serious' tests..then
It is highly recommended to be careful with which suite you will pick..
Because I think that the engines deserve to be be tested in more fair
Conditions... sure I respect everyone's view..but just in case of use via
Critical weak lines..would be ideal to be played min. 4000-5000 games
Per player..otherwise, I am afraid to say that your testings may indicate
Not so correct points, results.. if not so clear, in case of small number
Of games.., then simply I suggest strong opening suites..it will be safer !!
Because strong suites are less potential to produce wrong points/results!
And this is also true, sure via strong opening suites
Sometimes even 100-300 games (per player) may produce accurate results,
Where the tests with weak openings, the chances are much less to see the real strength!!

And I strongly suggest to check, to read and learn of course, for more info:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... testings-2

And here is another alternative testing, related with openings as well:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... testings-1


That's all from Me.. now is your turn.. !)


Best,
Sedat

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