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by Judoka
Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:10 am
Forum: General Topics
Topic: ChessBase: A Gross Miscarriage of Justice in Computer Chess
Replies: 174
Views: 52018

Re: ChessBase: A Gross Miscarriage of Justice in Computer Ch

More nonsense. This was not a jury trying a legal case, a "beyond reasonable doubt" verdict was not required. This was simply an internal affair; a panel deciding on whether someone had broken the rules of a private club. The composition of the panel and the way in which they reached a decision was ...
by Judoka
Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:43 pm
Forum: General Topics
Topic: ChessBase: A Gross Miscarriage of Justice in Computer Chess
Replies: 174
Views: 52018

Re: ChessBase: A Gross Miscarriage of Justice in Computer Ch

This kind of thinking, the idea that there is some vague gray area of interpretation here, is a common misconception. There are two domains to consider, that of Fruit's source code license (GPL), and that of the ICGA's decision. With respect to the source code license, the definition of "cheating ...
by Judoka
Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:46 pm
Forum: General Topics
Topic: ChessVibes publishes a balanced article re: Rybka
Replies: 27
Views: 8731

Re: ChessVibes publishes a balanced article re: Rybka

Another Post from Chessvibes
Another 3rd party chimes in....
Andrew Dalke
For computer programs, the relevant legal concept is the "abstraction filtration comparison" test, mentioned earlier. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstraction-Filtration-Comparison_test . Lines of code are one obvious ...
by Judoka
Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:58 pm
Forum: General Topics
Topic: ChessVibes publishes a balanced article re: Rybka
Replies: 27
Views: 8731

Re: ChessVibes publishes a balanced article re: Rybka

The commenter (Andrew Dalke) is indeed quite adept at disassembly. However, the document to which he refers (RYBKA_FRUIT) was a preliminary (Mar 11) enumeration of (all) possible evidence [therein it indicates that some of this comes from as-of-yet unchecked sources], and one can note the UCI ...
by Judoka
Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:06 am
Forum: General Topics
Topic: ChessBase: A Gross Miscarriage of Justice in Computer Chess
Replies: 174
Views: 52018

Re: ChessBase: A Gross Miscarriage of Justice in Computer Ch

I have let this issue bounce around in my head and I think perhaps the problem here is that we are facing a paradigm shift in how programming is done on the professional landscape (due to the information explosion on the internet.)

It seems to me that the debate here revolves around the idea of ...
by Judoka
Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:16 pm
Forum: General Topics
Topic: ChessVibes publishes a balanced article re: Rybka
Replies: 27
Views: 8731

Re: ChessVibes publishes a balanced article re: Rybka

Articles are always bias,... always! If anyone feels it is unbiased that is only because it has the same bias as you!

What has interested me in that I am finally hearing from 3rd party programmers that have no axe to grind.
FINALLY people that haven't chosen a side in this civil war.

http://www ...
by Judoka
Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:00 am
Forum: General Topics
Topic: ChessBase: A Gross Miscarriage of Justice in Computer Chess
Replies: 174
Views: 52018

Re: ChessBase: A Gross Miscarriage of Justice in Computer Ch

So the board appointed you and others who had already determined the guilt of Vas to run a panel?
5 years of disucssing the guilt of a person is a long time and our brains tend to form connections if repeatedly shown or told the same information over and over again. Intelligence or education does ...
by Judoka
Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:41 pm
Forum: General Topics
Topic: ChessBase: A Gross Miscarriage of Justice in Computer Chess
Replies: 174
Views: 52018

Re: ChessBase: A Gross Miscarriage of Justice in Computer Ch

1. The PANEL produced the report and evidence
This is exactly what I am getting at, the PANEL producing both the evidence and the report determining guilt or innocence of a person is critical. If a large portion persons involved in this panel is clearly bais from the start of the proceedings then ...
by Judoka
Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:53 am
Forum: General Topics
Topic: ChessBase: A Gross Miscarriage of Justice in Computer Chess
Replies: 174
Views: 52018

Re: ChessBase: A Gross Miscarriage of Justice in Computer Ch

My previous post wasnt logged but oh well.

The crux of my question is that if the ICGA group was trying to determine the truth about a particular subject why were members of the committee/panel/board that had already made their feelings and decisions clear allowed to participate and vote on a ...
by Judoka
Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:42 pm
Forum: General Topics
Topic: ChessBase: A Gross Miscarriage of Justice in Computer Chess
Replies: 174
Views: 52018

Re: ChessBase: A Gross Miscarriage of Justice in Computer Ch

adding to the procedural issues http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/programmers-write-open-letter-about-rybka-fruit-issue/
http://www.chessvibes.com/plaatjes/rybkaevidence/RybkaInvestigation.pdf

Also Opinions of Panel Members

Since so much attention has been around obscuring the truth I would ...